Primus Ray Labs EU

I ask because I live in the EU , don't talk that way to your future customer I want to know because if you ship from a country that is not in the EU and I buy from you my order will be stuck in customs

My apologies if my statement was a little harsh. I just figured here especially on Meso people would understand for security reasons why we cannot state publicly where we ahip from.

But yes sir, we ship from inside the EU. I posted that many times on here. We are in a western EU country if I have to be more specific, but that is all I can say.
 
Also you are not part of the group I am talking about. I know you are a regular member here just trying to do whats right for everyone here. That is a good thing. But its too bad that there is a small group of guys here trying to intimidate new sources here only due to them taking a hit on profits. This is a well known thing that goes on here at meso and many other places. But still meso is the best.
While there may be a select few "trying to hurt sources profits", the vetting process meso has isn't for this. The vettin process is to ensure that members get quality, sterile gear, and get what they pay for. Most importantly, the real issue at hand is the security of customers information which I haven't seen mentioned yet, unless I missed it somewhere.
 
While there may be a select few "trying to hurt sources profits", the vetting process meso has isn't for this. The vettin process is to ensure that members get quality, sterile gear, and get what they pay for. Most importantly, the real issue at hand is the security of customers information which I haven't seen mentioned yet, unless I missed it somewhere.

Thats a great question. We take the security of our customers very seriously. Ensuring that our customers are protected, is also the key to keeping ourselves protected. We never store customer information, and we always erase all contact info and personal details, and emails from all customers as soon as the package is delivered. If we owe someone something like a discount on a next order or something of that nature, we prefer to keep track of who they are by their meso handle and not their personal info.

Beyond that, all the bells and whistles. VPN, TOR, PGP, not to mention changing log on locations as well, different laptops, and encrypted emails. I believe everyone should do this no matter what its just common sense these days.

I thought your idea of vaccuum sealing was great, and now all packs are vaccuum sealed. I am always open to suggestions to make my stay here better for everyone. The happier the customer the happier I am. I want to make a good reputation for myself here. If there are ever any other suggestions you have or anyome else for that matter, let me know. :)
 
So @PRLreseller your saying someone Pmed you saying someone else Pmed them saying don't buy from you but instead buy from them?




Haha you are so funny. Are we going through this again? Ok I am game. I ALREADY STATED I AM A RESELLER AND THAT I AM NOT AN AUTHORIZED RETAILER. Order from them? Haha they will not sell anything UNDER 20k of product.
Then someone says show me some more stock. You say no I'm not showing you anything lol.


That is a good thing. But its too bad that there is a small group of guys here trying to intimidate new sources here only due to them taking a hit on profits. This is a well known thing that goes on here at meso and many other places.

This is not tolerated her so if you know who it is please do tell. I'm not naïve to think this doesn't happen. The ones that are doing it are not doing it publicly. So it's not like they have a huge clientele because it has to stay quiet. So that's a BS excuse if I've ever heard one. It's a terrible attempt to deflect from the real issue her which is you.
 
He claims to have had to order at a minimum 20K in stock. Both of the websites prl. & pr. Both will sell to any Tom, dick and Harry all day long. 20K minimum my fuzzy ass.

Who's been contacted by other members to not buy from this source? I don't care who contacted you, just that you had been contacted by another member and told not to buy and then you told this source. I'm betting nobody has and would gladly accept proof otherwise, nsa.
 
Theres the double team lol. First off I will NEVER disclose the names of members who have told me what they told me through PM. Second off you are both threatened due to the fact my gear isnt bathtub brew. Primus ray will not sell to just anyone you are so funny. If that was the case then go right ahead lol.

Secondly I am not some idiot bathtub brewer using his moms internet in the basement, having multiple accounts, lying to other members and making fake tests lol ;) Real sources would never risk photographing their whole stash, after they just posted a ton of photos already...its overkill especially since you are the only 2 asking for it lol. However, I will always post photos of new products when I get them...that is normal....Also you clearly know nothing about not shitting where you eat...think about it, and you may figure it out...but I doubt it...thats all I will say. Any real member can read this whole thread and see I am legit. What some bathtub brewer says just to sway sales isnt something I worry much about. Lol my gear is sterile, codes all working, as shown in the photos, proper security, and properly dosed gear, with exceptional customer care and service. You get what you pay for with Primus Ray....period.
 
He claims to have had to order at a minimum 20K in stock. Both of the websites prl. & pr. Both will sell to any Tom, dick and Harry all day long. 20K minimum my fuzzy ass.

Who's been contacted by other members to not buy from this source? I don't care who contacted you, just that you had been contacted by another member and told not to buy and then you told this source. I'm betting nobody has and would gladly accept proof otherwise, nsa.
How about a PM with a fuzzy ass:eek:
 
Theres the double team lol. First off I will NEVER disclose the names of members who have told me what they told me through PM. Second off you are both threatened due to the fact my gear isnt bathtub brew. Primus ray will not sell to just anyone you are so funny. If that was the case then go right ahead lol.

Secondly I am not some idiot bathtub brewer using his moms internet in the basement, having multiple accounts, lying to other members and making fake tests lol ;) Real sources would never risk photographing their whole stash, after they just posted a ton of photos already...its overkill especially since you are the only 2 asking for it lol. However, I will always post photos of new products when I get them...that is normal....Also you clearly know nothing about not shitting where you eat...think about it, and you may figure it out...but I doubt it...thats all I will say. Any real member can read this whole thread and see I am legit. What some bathtub brewer says just to sway sales isnt something I worry much about. Lol my gear is sterile, codes all working, as shown in the photos, proper security, and properly dosed gear, with exceptional customer care and service. You get what you pay for with Primus Ray....period.
We are threatened? LMAO!!!
For what reasons? Please explain.

Your right there, you are not a bath tub brewer. You don't know shit about brewing anything. That's proven by the fact that your a resaler and not your own brand. Not a very good resaler at that judging by your high prices and no BTC or E currency.

There's been PLENTY of "real" sources that have posted pics of hundreds and hundreds of vials and boxes. So nice try there.

Didn't you say that you don't even use your own supply?
 
Theres the double team lol. First off I will NEVER disclose the names of members who have told me what they told me through PM. Second off you are both threatened due to the fact my gear isnt bathtub brew. Primus ray will not sell to just anyone you are so funny. If that was the case then go right ahead lol.

Secondly I am not some idiot bathtub brewer using his moms internet in the basement, having multiple accounts, lying to other members and making fake tests lol ;) Real sources would never risk photographing their whole stash, after they just posted a ton of photos already...its overkill especially since you are the only 2 asking for it lol. However, I will always post photos of new products when I get them...that is normal....Also you clearly know nothing about not shitting where you eat...think about it, and you may figure it out...but I doubt it...thats all I will say. Any real member can read this whole thread and see I am legit. What some bathtub brewer says just to sway sales isnt something I worry much about. Lol my gear is sterile, codes all working, as shown in the photos, proper security, and properly dosed gear, with exceptional customer care and service. You get what you pay for with Primus Ray....period.
No one is threatened by your drug dealing bro. What we are threatened by is your inability to tell the truth. I will start with the claim that you can only order 20K minimum from prl

And for such good OPSEC why are you so paranoid about posting some pics? I thought you had this stuff all set and in order? You make it seem like you are so savvy but you balk at pics for verification.

And fwiw, nobody is protecting sales here, except you. I don't source on meso or any other forum. Thought about it but it's a tragic and sad tale if it's undertaken.

And I think this got glossed over pretty quickly so let's quote these fine folks. Maybe there is some merit to their claims?
This pharma grade omnadren (jelfa) is out of production from many years. Now there are only copy off this old version ofomnadren. The original omnadren is produceb only by PharmaSwiss, and it is sold inpharmacy in many country of est EU. I'm not American. I know the European market very well ....

This is the original !

This is what I have heard in 2006 Sanitas pharmacuticals purchase rights from jelfa...then valeant purchased Sanitas pharmacuticals in 2011 as well as valeant purchased pharmaswiss which now makes omnadren for a few diffeent markets ... short version of the story but you get the idea..lol at least this is what I've read..could be wrong though
 
Theres the double team lol. First off I will NEVER disclose the names of members who have told me what they told me through PM. Second off you are both threatened due to the fact my gear isnt bathtub brew. Primus ray will not sell to just anyone you are so funny. If that was the case then go right ahead lol.

Secondly I am not some idiot bathtub brewer using his moms internet in the basement, having multiple accounts, lying to other members and making fake tests lol ;) Real sources would never risk photographing their whole stash, after they just posted a ton of photos already...its overkill especially since you are the only 2 asking for it lol. However, I will always post photos of new products when I get them...that is normal....Also you clearly know nothing about not shitting where you eat...think about it, and you may figure it out...but I doubt it...thats all I will say. Any real member can read this whole thread and see I am legit. What some bathtub brewer says just to sway sales isnt something I worry much about. Lol my gear is sterile, codes all working, as shown in the photos, proper security, and properly dosed gear, with exceptional customer care and service. You get what you pay for with Primus Ray....period.
So you won't say names but you'll tell us exactly what they said. And ironically, exactly what they said can only benefit you and your credibility. You see the problem with this?

Your words are meaningless without something to back them up. PM Mands or another long time, trusted member here so that we can get it in the open appropriately. Otherwise we can all only assume your lying to help your business
 
We are threatened? LMAO!!!
For what reasons? Please explain.

Your right there, you are not a bath tub brewer. You don't know shit about brewing anything. That's proven by the fact that your a resaler and not your own brand. Not a very good resaler at that judging by your high prices and no BTC or E currency.

There's been PLENTY of "real" sources that have posted pics of hundreds and hundreds of vials and boxes. So nice try there.

Didn't you say that you don't even use your own supply?

Haha you are so funny why are you and your buddies so mad??? Lol this is so hilarious. And yes we have bitcoin see there you go making up lies lol and no I never said I dont use. I said I do...more lies from you hahaha you are a very sad person....havibg to have as many accounts as you do lol
 
Haha wow ok well no need to because you are most likely all the same person. Whats that 4 or 5 accounts now? Your not buying my gear so I have no need to please you lol. All my customers from here know my product is legit. I could care less about what you say. Ill just block you since the real members here know that I am legit. Wait til all the TDs come in...you will be hating even harder lol ;)
 
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Haha wow ok well no need to because you are most likely all the same person. Whats that 4 or 5 accounts now? Your not buying my gear so I have no need to please you lol. All my customers from here know my product is legit. I could care less about what you say. Ill just block you since the real members here know that I am legit. Wait til all the TDs come in...you will be hating even harder lol ;)

So, let's get this right.
When the heat is on, you stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes and hope that will make all the mean men with tough questions go away?

Your quote above should be a huge red flag for anyone looking to deal with you. Deflect and run, the hallmarks of a pathetic source.

When problems come up, are you going to claim that person is one of the few of us, then put them on ignore too? Sounds like a great loophole in the event a reship becomes necessary or you have to reimburse someone for the inevitable bad batch.
 
What's your previous handle?

Careful. Don't question the snowflake or he'll put you on ignore and claim you're me and a half dozen other members.

The beauty part here is, it's all here in living color.
His deflections, word games, baseless accusations and his inability to conduct himself professionally.

The most desperate of noobs should be thinking twice before conducting business with someone this shady.

As far as the pics go, he won't post stock beyond what could be considered a personal stash. i believe that's because that's all he has. He's a middleman that will place an order for you, after you place an order with him.

DAILY REMINDER: THIS SOURCE CANNOT BE TRUSTED. BUYER BEWARE.
 
his inability to conduct himself professionally.
This man. I like to be objective and sit back and watch things unfold. See how a source answers questions and validates himself. But not providing pictures of a large stock with handwritten meso and date with them is the minimum.

If I were potentially going to buy from him there are a few things putting me off besides the stock picks with meso and date handwritten. Also no wife's tits. That should have been in the in first post. But how he treats members.


@PRLreseller you are not a member. And never will be. And if you were a member. You will never be again. So why don't you act professional and drop the fuckin attitude?? Reminds me of @Padawan
 
Tell us another fucking lie prick.


REALLY?

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And yes we have bitcoin see there you go making up lies lol and no I never said I dont use.



What? Now here you say you've always accepted Bitcoin? I'm confused because your VERY first post you said this.Which is it?

Hello Meso,
My name is Mike.Payment MUST be in Euros. We currently only accept Western Union, and Moneygram, but we are working on getting a Paypal account set up and also Bitcoin eventually.
 
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