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NavyChief said:
Sorry guys, there is no secret agenda from BB69 regarding 2 board names.
What's above is correct, he was asked by staff to change his board name at AB.
There was no more or less behind it than security after his return from an involuntary absence. Staff and a large part of members there know geogroup/BB69.
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You had your "Thread Killer" hat on last night, Friend. Thank you, Navy. I appreciate your assistance in this matter. @Masterofron , we haven't shared space for very long. I suppose I can understand your reaction. It was reasonable and you didn't jump my shit.
Now @Oldschool ...what's this all about? The last sentence..."Fuck you Ben" has a deeper feel to it. Almost as if you've been doing some investigative work behind the scenes where I'm concerned? You've concluded that I have an agenda that is funded by petty thievery with the goal of appearing to be someone of influence in the Community? Hmmmm...what do you think now?
I remember when you first came around. There was a period where you were following my posts around and making snide remarks...quick shots. Then you sent me a pm that said something about being mistaken and that you felt I had the Communities best interest at heart. Do you recall that?
Did you feel as though I tricked you and that's what the "Fuck you" is about? You felt betrayed? Maybe I was going to be the feather in your cap after knocking me off whatever pedestal I believe I sit upon here in the Community?
Naaa, I'm not that important to you...or anyone here at meso. There may have been a time when my presence was needed to keep order with new sources in the Underground. Maybe "needed' is too much? Expected perhaps? When guys logged on back in 2012 and 2013 they could expect to find some entertaining posts from me. Times have changed.
Anyway, I don't have anything to hide. If you or anyone wants to ask me a question about anything I'd be happy to entertain them and will provide an audience for that purpose.
Well, I guess its not gonna be today.
 
@biggerben69 Yep I just was curious how you’d answer. Your answer makes sense. Most of the time people are quick to jump on someone with accusations, theories, whatever else, before that person even has time to answer for themselves or explain.

Im not picking sides here, but looking back I shouldn’t of even acknowledged his post because I don’t like him and all it did was give him more of a reason to talk and stir shit up.
 
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Masterofron said:
@biggerben69 Yep I just was curious how you’d answer. Your answer makes sense. Most of the time people are quick to jump on someone with accusations, theories, whatever else, before that person even has time to answer for themselves or explain.

Im not picking sides here, but looking back I shouldn’t of even acknowledged his post because I don’t like him and all it did was give him more of a reason to talk and stir shit up.
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Thats exactly what Oldschool is good for, talking and stirring shit up. And thats it.
 
biggerben69 said:
You had your "Thread Killer" hat on last night, Friend. Thank you, Navy. I appreciate your assistance in this matter. @Masterofron , we haven't shared space for very long. I suppose I can understand your reaction. It was reasonable and you didn't jump my shit.
Now @Oldschool ...what's this all about? The last sentence..."Fuck you Ben" has a deeper feel to it. Almost as if you've been doing some investigative work behind the scenes where I'm concerned? You've concluded that I have an agenda that is funded by petty thievery with the goal of appearing to be someone of influence in the Community? Hmmmm...what do you think now?
I remember when you first came around. There was a period where you were following my posts around and making snide remarks...quick shots. Then you sent me a pm that said something about being mistaken and that you felt I had the Communities best interest at heart. Do you recall that?
Did you feel as though I tricked you and that's what the "Fuck you" is about? You felt betrayed? Maybe I was going to be the feather in your cap after knocking me off whatever pedestal I believe I sit upon here in the Community?
Naaa, I'm not that important to you...or anyone here at meso. There may have been a time when my presence was needed to keep order with new sources in the Underground. Maybe "needed' is too much? Expected perhaps? When guys logged on back in 2012 and 2013 they could expect to find some entertaining posts from me. Times have changed.
Anyway, I don't have anything to hide. If you or anyone wants to ask me a question about anything I'd be happy to entertain them and will provide an audience for that purpose.
Well, I guess its not gonna be today.
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Your post stating you know who I am is where the fuck you came from. You don't have a clue who I am. The barfly that liked you post believes in you! You have let her down with your false information. Lol. I'm going to let you keep on posting novels full of dog shit until I am bored and then i will prove you wrong.
 
Masterofron said:
@biggerben69 Yep I just was curious how you’d answer. Your answer makes sense. Most of the time people are quick to jump on someone with accusations, theories, whatever else, before that person even has time to answer for themselves or explain.

Im not picking sides here, but looking back I shouldn’t of even acknowledged his post because I don’t like him and all it did was give him more of a reason to talk and stir shit up.
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Ben has spread false information about my identity. I have ample reason to defend myself. The dislike is mutual so it's all good.
 
At last we're getting down to it. I don't get why folks more often then not take the passive aggressive approach when dealing with me?
I take that back. I can understand why some would go that way online...especially back in the old days.
Its because I wouldn't take that angle online or in rl because I don't think I'd like the way I feel about myself. I would feel less than.
I think it was before your time here? Back when members had status. "Awesome" and "Well Know" were what members strove to achieve.
I thought I had previously spoken to a member about what I was up to at the time. I hadn't and I pm'd the guy...who was a WKM, because I wouldn't have approached a noob. The member took to the open board to tell the Community what a piece of shit scammer I was? Whoa..flashback. Lol...anyway it didn't go the way he had hoped. It was a rough thread. The member was labeled a rat and POS and ended up changing his handle or leaving.
He came back as time heals all wounds and actually pm'd me as he moved across the country and lives an hour or so away from me. We are good with each other.
Now, about what you're talking about. I don't know what to make of your reaction to something that I would handle with ease and meet it head on. There are a few ways I could go but one thing I'm sure of...I wouldn't react the way you are. I don't get the anger? I can see dancing around or seeing what I could get the person to say openly or to me about it. I wouldn't rage and hurl insults at the person or people.
Thing about it is, it doesn't matter who you are at meso. Its a board that doesn't have a private/VIP area where security and who and what one does for a living would impact the decision to grant the member passage.
I would be curious where the info came from and then upon finding that out...and if it wasn't accurate I probably have an idea of how or why the misinformation came about.
Your reaction sounds like you believe I made the info up and did so to hurt you somehow? You have a terrible read on the kind of guy I am. What on earth could I stand to gain by making something like this up and why would I want to hurt you if I could with something like this?
Your gonna wait and then prove me wrong? What's that going to do for you? What's it going to do to me?
I was interested when I was told because I had interaction with the guy. I also am from that neck of the woods and it was big news when it went down. I also had a lot more interaction with another guy who was former LE at ab when Dynasty was around.
I've been following his case. It was last touched upon by the DOJ and by our Community news sources when Sambuca finally pled guilty and a sentencing hearing was scheduled for earlier this month(Nov 15).
What wasn't touched on was that Sambuca has been out on bond and that his plea is sealed. I get this info from Pacer.gov and it could be of interest to some because the sealed documents tell me that he cooperated as much as humanly possible to get downward departures from the Sentencing Guidelines. That will only happen if a guy has been of substantial assistance in the prosecution of another person.
Same with his being granted bail and then him returning to court in order to have the conditions of his release from custody modified to give him more freedom...and the prosecution agreeing to it. I've found that this kind of thing only happens when the person is giving the prosecutor what he or she wants.
The thing with George is that this is his 2nd indictment for distributing AAS. The misbranding of drugs and interstate commerce charges are different...but the distributing aas felony is two times.
He avoided prison the first time by cooperating and by having no criminal history. His being a philly cop at the time of his indictment could for sure hurt him more than if he was just a drug addict(which he no doubt is) who decided to start a ugl. He was entrusted to uphold the law.
It could help at certain times in a case...especially at sentencing when his past good deeds could help him with leniency. He got some help there.
He was sentenced to 6 months in prison(he was out on bail and never entered the system. The sentencing judge with the prosecutors blessing "Strongly recommended" to the BOP(Bureau of Prisons) that george be able to serve the 6 months at a Federal Halfway House.
I don't see him avoiding prison this go around. I don't think he can be punished specifically for it but according to my math its would be within a month of his being discharged or from Federal Probation that he would have shipped the first of 2 pkg's to the undercover cop in Maryland that he was indicted for. He my still have been under the thumb of the feds?
The guy you brought up in your post when you sarcastically said you were him had some interesting things happen in his case as well. I could get into that case as well but perhaps another time.
If you think I didn't believe that at least 1 of the 3 people I told about what I had learned might say something to you you're mistaken, again. I actually told icky to go ahead and ask you! Ask him. Here....@ickyrica. If I was planning some big public flogging wouldn't I approach things differently? I'm sure I would. But that's not the way I do things.
You could've but the thing to bed there.
Why didn't I come to you? Its not the kind of thing that means anything at meso as far as the board goes. The people I shared with had at least some interactions and dealings with you and if you were that guy I would want to know.
The main reason for me not asking you is because I have no respect for LE. None. I don't believe they can be trusted and I don't believe they should be welcome in our Community. I'd have plenty of nasty things to say to you. Means nothing here but if I saw you outside this board I would let staff know in case you ever attempted to gain the boards trust and enter areas where only trusted guys go. You gained the trust of a few here. It wouldn't happen elsewhere as long as I was around.
Why? I'd have to get into the outcome of the case I said I'd touch on another time. Fucking cops turning drug dealers. Fucking scum bags. Hey, but that's not you. Cool.
I don't know why you said you were him a couple yrs back when you did if you weren't him? Being funny? How the fuck should I know? I trust my source. if he was mistaken, and judging by your reaction I don't think he was, but if he was you could've handled this differently. You brought it out for everyone to see.
Maybe you need attention? I wasn't throwing the info around any more. It didn't matter to me. After my initial curiosity it faded. I would revisit it if need be at another board.
What solidified it for me was your behavior.
When whatever it was that exactly happened with info you had that caused the term rat to be thrown around and attached to your handl. The tgi and the email thing.
It made me think back to the 2dumb incident. He told me you tattled there as well. When guys start teling they have a hard time stopping. Then finally your handling of things after hearing what I had been told.
Stupid things. But those little things including my source was enough. Not enough to make it the boards business. Thats on you. Its not going to change my standing in the Community or anywhere else for that matter.
What is it you envision becoming of me whether or not my info is accurate? Whatever it is, as has been the case more often than not, you're mistaken.
 
"Member SBC had started a thread and then posted what sounded like some sort of retraction. From what I'm told he had it right. I'm also told that SBC's acct wasn't compromised."

The info originally posted under my account may or may not be correct I personally have no idea. All I know is that my account was used by someone else to post it here.

I've now changed the password and turned on 2 factor authentication which means I post far less often as it's hassle to get on.

Your claim someone told you I'm lying makes no sense and I'd like to know who it was. The only guy to benefit from the claim that the post was really made by me is the hacker himself as it adds credibility to his claims.

I've outed scammers for nearly 20 years if I had hard evidence that Big A or anyone else was one I'd happily post it.
 
S.B.C said:
"Member SBC had started a thread and then posted what sounded like some sort of retraction. From what I'm told he had it right. I'm also told that SBC's acct wasn't compromised."

The info originally posted under my account may or may not be correct I personally have no idea. All I know is that my account was used by someone else to post it here.

I've now changed the password and turned on 2 factor authentication which means I post far less often as it's hassle to get on.

Your claim someone told you I'm lying makes no sense and I'd like to know who it was. The only guy to benefit from the claim that the post was really made by me is the hacker himself as it adds credibility to his claims.

I've outed scammers for nearly 20 years if I had hard evidence that Big A or anyone else was one I'd happily post it.
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I suppose I thought you had second thoughts about going with the story of the hacker/extortionist shutting down Big A's boards? I had the benefit of seeing 2 respected sourcres posting the same info on different boards.
Hey, another guy who sounds like he's getting hostile with me for things that I've been told by credible people.
I didn't say you lied. I said you posted a retraction of sorts as i thought you were doubting yourself.
i was more interested in getting the information back out there. I also, for some reason wanted to give you credit for posting the info originally. I was just maybe backing it up or co-signing the story.
I had other things on my mind and wasn't thinking that you or anyone would take it that I was calling you a liar.
As for your heated post....and for my "claims"...and wanting to know how your acct and whether or not it was taken over came up in conversation and how or who would have to have said he didn't believe it was taken over by a 3rd party to make the statement anything more than conjecture?
I can only think of one person who would be in a position to possibly have a clue on the subject.
Even though I believe its clear who is calling the other a liar(I "claim"...you used the word.) and you didn't ask politely I sent you a pm with the answer to your question.

Since my return to society this past June I've taken on the role of "Heel", first, by aggravating and the peaceful flow of the TGI thread. We never had it so good and I ruined it for everyone. I've been the bad guy since. 80% of the members who were posting lies about me and insulting me while attempting to silence me are no longer actively posting on meso.
Thats the first place I was accused of having an agenda. I was not on the TGI team because I had an agenda. Has to be money. I wasn't getting my "cut" of money being spent in the Underground. How exactly is that happening?
Well, if it isn't money I'm after then I must be driven by some sort of Narcissistic urge to be seen as "Important" to the Community? The TGI thread talked about my sickness and its once again found its way in this thread.
I'll do some soul searching in between novels.
 
@biggerben69

Put the glass dick down.

Fuck your boy 2dumb.

I'm not a retired cop turned drug dealer.

I did not rat out Titanium. He ratted himself out after iceman and I had a conversation about narco sales in which I told him I was going to let the folks that were the accused know they were being accused. In regards to Titanium go find one post where I said anything bad about Titter himself?

Lastly if I was suddenly banned from this forum and/or forums like it my financial status wouldn't change a bit.

Would yours?
 
Eman said:
I think I'm missing something. Where does 2dumb fit in here?

... In my defense, it's difficult to keep up with his aliases.
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Ben was basing his opinion of me on something 2dumb told him I guess. Never miss letting people know how i feel about 2dumb.

Ben is off the fucking plantation on this one. But it is entertaining.
 
Eman said:
I think I'm missing something. Where does 2dumb fit in here?

... In my defense, it's difficult to keep up with his aliases.
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He was a rep for PPL at one point (or still is repping) on various boards. There's talk he is also a Panda rep on SST.
 
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