Prove That Naps Is Scammer And Sells Bunk Gear

If you really wanted to offer the best quality possible, you would be doing in house testing. You know this is true, Naps.

I cannot understand why a lab of your size refuses to implement an house testing program
if naps isn't doing it then its bad sign for everyone. if he does so goes other ugls too. @naps do this ^^^

Who said it has to be the UGL that's underdosing? It's far more likely the Chinese are underdosing the raw powder, and, for them, it is HIGHLY profitable. If they cut the powder by half, they DOUBLE their profit.
actually it was dr jim who said it was ugls underdosing vials of aas. i get your point and your hit the nail on the head. if the problem is the chinese powders and ugls don't do inhouse testing then we're all getting screwed.
So for example if the cost to produce an AAS is say $10 bucks per vial at a concentration of 200mg/dl, simply cutting the concentration in HALF DOUBLES the profitability.
 
Naps is a reseller id doubt if they test much of anything and from the stuff i got the blood tests showed next to 0 anabolics.
I dont doubt they actually have some proper gear but i wasnt lucky in my purchase.
 
well hopefully someone who has your ear will give you same the sensible constructive feedback

Asking to be spoon fed is not constructive criticism!

Oh and if you want independent lab testing who is stoping YOU from acquiring it?
You think your the first to say that! Duh. You make it happen, right, lol!

But I know you will do NOTHING yourself to acquire it. Bc you want others to do YOUR work for you and I won't waste my time.
 
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I don't think anyone is saying naps is purposefully underdosing shit. What we are saying is that they could give a rat's ass as long as they are making money. If they are not testing raws independently yet still raking in the cash, why should they give a shit? What makes this business any different from any other in this regard? It isn't like the fda is going to come down on you for false advertising. This is why ugls get away with this crap. People keep throwing money at it like they are at the casino and hoping they will get lucky. Those of us that are jaded and a bit more realistic will take a different approach and expect crap as the default until proved otherwise.

The only thing the ugl will respect is money. If some of the labs get tested and come up lacking then perhaps their cash flow gets interrupted. hopefully after enough are proven to be crap they will adjust their business model and start testing themselves. I think a decent proportion of people would be willing to pay more for a tested good product and you would have far less blowback from unhappy customers.
 
Naps is a reseller id doubt if they test much of anything and from the stuff i got the blood tests showed next to 0 anabolics.
I dont doubt they actually have some proper gear but i wasnt lucky in my purchase.


Yea will TH wants proof and a more thorough explanation bc your obviously being "biased", lol!
 
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Nothin is as shady as the fitness industry be it legit or not. This is why any one in the game calls foul till its proven legit dont like it get out the game cause ur probably a scammer.
 
Come on Guys while there are some UGLs whom don't know (or don't want to know) the raws purchased are under dosed at best NAPS, DAMN SURE IS NOT ONE OF THEM!

We are talking about one very large UGL that probably has investments in Chinese raw R, D and sales.

Is Naps another AAS resaler? (which has been used as a scapegoat by the majority of UGL)

I know better!

I've said it before and I'll say it again unless an UGL can post contemporary analyses on at least 30% of the products being sold, and are able to answer questions regarding same, one MUST ASSUME they are scammers at least in part, IMO
 
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Finally unlike NAPs testing results I'll be readily available to field the majority of those questions others my have. AND if I don't know the answer, the labs PHd chemist most certainly will.
Asking to be spoon fed is not constructive criticism!

Oh and if you want independent lab testing who is stoping YOU from acquiring it?
You think your the first to say that! Duh. You make it happen, right, lol!

But I know you will do NOTHING yourself to acquire it. Bc you want others to do YOUR work for you and I won't waste my time.
forgive me. when you offered to answer questions about lab testing i didn't think you would insult me if i took you up on the invitation.
This is what we NEED and what I've tried so hard to accomplish over the past few months, reliable AAS data posted on Meso that other forum members marvel at wondering; "how da do dat" :)

SO PLEASE POST UP AND LET ME/US KNOW IF YOUR WOULD USE THIS SERVICE, IF AVAILABLE
RIGHT NOW!!
you have me confused. you are offering lab testing service in another thread. you are offering to answer questions about lab testing in this thread. when i ask you questions about both you insult me and basically tell me to fuck off.

are you offering to help members or are you not?

as far as my constructive criticism, it didn't have anything to do with my questions. it had to do with my suggestion that you let the lab test results do the talking and leave the bias at home. nothing very controversial about that. you would be hardpressed to find anyone who disagrees.
 
forgive me. when you offered to answer questions about lab testing i didn't think you would insult me if i took you up on the invitation.
you have me confused. you are offering lab testing service in another thread. you are offering to answer questions about lab testing in this thread. when i ask you questions about both you insult me and basically tell me to fuck off.

are you offering to help members or are you not?

as far as my constructive criticism, it didn't have anything to do with my questions. it had to do with my suggestion that you let the lab test results do the talking and leave the bias at home. nothing very controversial about that. you would be hardpressed to find anyone who disagrees.

TH can you read???

Seriously bc no one else would have read that comment and interpret it the way you have done!

Read the damn post it's clear I'm referring to being available to answer questions about whatever lab tests I WILL HAVE CONDUCTED AND THEREAFTER POST, IN THE FUTURE on SOURCES!

Finally what you consider my biases are nothing more than rehashed historical FACTS, but it's not surprising you don't know the difference!
 
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I know that Meso is interested to start independent lab testing the UG labs and continue what was once started by BodyOfScience.
I was a big supporter of the BodyofScience project that culminated in the publication of the "Underground Anabolics" book. I was and will always be proud to have been acknowledged for my support in the book's foreword. At the time, I thought the lab testing would have a major impact on the market - the book was only the beginning and the testing would be ongoing. Unfortunately, the continued lab testing didn't happen. That was 5 years ago.

If MESO does continue what was started by BoS, I hope it can better address one of the main criticisms faced by BoS i.e. questions regarding chain of custody for sample submissions.

If MESO can make the process much more transparent, then I think it will minimize the concerns. For example, rather than have sample submissions by a relatively small number of unnamed people, I would propose pseudonymous submissions (with documentation of the sample source/history posted on the forum) by literally hundreds of MESO members.

It's not a perfect solution. But it as an improvement.
 
I have used naps for years with no issue until now...maybe. This is my first time getting the Genza brand and I'm not feeling anything. I buy bulk and run tests to see so that I know I'm good for future runs. Blood being drawn today so I will have the results in a week or so. In the past I bought dragon brand from them and had great results and blood levels. I will chime back in when I get the results
 
I have used naps for years with no issue until now...maybe. This is my first time getting the Genza brand and I'm not feeling anything. I buy bulk and run tests to see so that I know I'm good for future runs. Blood being drawn today so I will have the results in a week or so. In the past I bought dragon brand from them and had great results and blood levels. I will chime back in when I get the results
4 uear old thread op, you picked the wriong one. Nice to see you ised search,option
 
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