Proviron

Goodness I thought SOME would believe it's as "good" as Tren?
:)

Lol nothing is as good as tren not even thet new 1-test cyp popping up everywhere. Just finished a 10 week run and turns out its more like eq. Ill save myself the pip and run 800mg a week of eq.
 
WORD.
Lately Tren has been killing my Cardio. like more than normal, Halotestin helps me low dose Tren to balance it a bit

Hey brohemous,

How much tren do you do before cardio is compromised? I have some tren e, and wanted to add some to current stack (350 mg each of test and mast, 60 mg of var a day, 4 days a week). I am starting about 250-300 mg of tren a week. Will probably drop the Mast soon, and then the tren in about 3 weeks.
 
As good as masteron? Seriously, you have to be kidding me. There is no comparison, it is not even close. Masteron burns way more fat, and while muscle gains are moderate, they are high quality IE not temporary water weight gains. I never gained an ounce of muscle from Proviron.

Having said that, proviron is excellent for libido....in fact I would say better than excellent. Moderate test and proviron w/ a ped5 would give a dead man wood.
Don't see anyone saying it's as good as Mast, Mr Pericles. Just that, for general well-being & libido lift, I'll use when I can't get to Mast.

Mr Solo
 
Hey brohemous,

How much tren do you do before cardio is compromised? I have some tren e, and wanted to add some to current stack (350 mg each of test and mast, 60 mg of var a day, 4 days a week). I am starting about 250-300 mg of tren a week. Will probably drop the Mast soon, and then the tren in about 3 weeks.

Start there and see. I have not had issues b4.
 
Ok Solo, perhaps not better, but AS GOOD as Tren?
:)

Tren has a strange, unpredictable effect on libido. It definitely gets cranked up, but I used to also get pissed off if things didn't go just the way I wanted. Kind of ruined the "romantic" atmosphere.:rolleyes:

Solo
 
Actually PC its a fine question but I don't believe studies have objectively evaluated this issue.

One means would be to analyze VO-2 max like we discussed a while back.
 
I crapped my pants 4 years ago when I moved to Mexico and bought Proviron OTC in Wal-Mart.

I use it at 25mg QID(4 times a day) with my larger meals(real meals, not chicken/tuna or protein). Makes me abuse the hell out of my girlfriend and tightens me up, makes me feel "good".
 
I always get 8" erections
from it, and I'm only 6" .. :-bd

No, I never tried it, but I am going to...

I'm going to try everything :rolleyes:
 
MW
I thought you HAD already tried everything, and then some, lol!

Nah not yet, but I will.

Every time I want to order something new, the
Tren keeps popping out of the lists...
Like a word in 3-D... Look at me Tren BUY ME BUY ME.

I will take caution with the Prostate, though.
Don't wanna fuck that up... Not yet anyway.

All I need is some energy... NO SEXDRIVE, though....
No more anyway... I always have a sexdrive... Maybe cause
I just love women so much and I love to cuddle...
A manly cuddle.. Come on, not that sissy stuff :-)

I want to use EQ and Proviron.. Don't know what else, though
 
If I can get some nice energy and maybe...
O I don't wanna say sexdrive, but that shit seems to
really put me over the top with the confidence...

I have confidence all around, but when it really comes
down to the nitty gritty, that confidence knowing you
can perform for hours, reboot and go again, is so nice :cool:
By hours I mean 40min... I am 42 give me a break.

I want the EQ for joints cause HGH seems too expensive.
Maybe not for what I need it for cause low doses.. Maybe?
 
Gotta agree, high quality Tren is a damn fine AAS, especially when combined with Master and a touch of Test.

And ya know, keep those esters short on all ends, and "recovery" is not to bad either, IME!
 
Don't see anyone saying it's as good as Mast, Mr Pericles. Just that, for general well-being & libido lift, I'll use when I can't get to Mast.

Mr Solo

Old thread, I know. Of course proviron and Mast are mostly identical, However, w/ the Mast I am getting (200 mgs per cc and enanthate ester) makes it easy to do 700 mgs a week

700 mg proviron, no need to tax my liver.....would rather tax it with an excessively long var and winney run[:o)]
 
Fontana K, Campos GE, Staron RS, da Cruz-Hofling MA. Effects of Anabolic Steroids and High-Intensity Aerobic Exercise on Skeletal Muscle of Transgenic Mice. PLoS One 2013;8(11):e80909. PLOS ONE: Effects of Anabolic Steroids and High-Intensity Aerobic Exercise on Skeletal Muscle of Transgenic Mice

In an attempt to shorten recovery time and improve performance, strength and endurance athletes occasionally turn to the illicit use of anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS).

This study evaluated the effects of AAS treatment on the muscle mass and phenotypic characteristics of transgenic mice subjected to a high-intensity, aerobic training program (5d/wk for 6 weeks). The transgenic mice (CETP+/-LDLr-/+) were engineered to exhibit a lipid profile closer to humans.

Animals were divided into groups of sedentary (Sed) and/or training (Ex) mice (each treated orally with AAS or gum arabic/vehicle: Sed-C, Sed-M, ex-C, ex-M). The effects of AAS (mesterolone: M) on specific phenotypic adaptations (muscle wet weight, cross-sectional area, and fiber type composition) in three hindlimb muscles (soleus:SOL, tibialis anterior:TA and gastrocnemius:GAS) were assessed. In order to detect subtle changes in fiber type profile, the entire range of fiber types (I, IC, IIAC, IIA, IIAD, IID, IIDB, IIB) was delineated using mATPase histochemistry.

Body weight gain occurred throughout the study for all groups. However, the body weight gain was significantly minimized with exercise. This effect was blunted with mesterolone treatment. Both AAS treatment (Sed-M) and high-intensity, aerobic training (ex-C) increased the wet weights of all three muscles and induced differential hypertrophy of pure and hybrid fibers.

Combination of AAS and training (ex-M) resulted in enhanced hypertrophy. In the SOL, mesterolone treatment (Sed-M and ex-M) caused dramatic increases in the percentages of fiber types IC, IIAC, IIAD, IID, with concomitant decrease in IIA, but had minimal impact on fiber type percentages in the predominantly fast muscles.

Overall, the AAS-induced differential adaptive changes amounted to significant fiber type transformations in the fast-to-slow direction in SOL. AAS treatment had a significant effect on muscle weights and fiber type composition in SOL, TA and GAS which was even maximized in animals subjected to metabolically high-intensity aerobic exercise.
 
I'm still not sure what I think of proviron overall, and I've used it a lot. I don't mind it but it is not some "great" ingredient to throw in the mix in my experience, I choose masteron over it mostly and that one is just a subtle addition to my protocol at the dosage I am using and with everything else

not really ever seeing much in the way of libido increase from it ever really that can't be achieved by a proper balance of other things that are healthier I think
 
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