PurplePandaLabs And Monkey King Anabolics Are The Same Lab

[AnTabolic73]

reading available information (which is what CBS has been accused of in this case) is a far cry from a cyber attack. Ddos or something of the like would be a cyber attack.

Well I dont know exactly what he did. If he snatched someones ip address, maybe it's not a "cyber attack", but it shouldnt be allowed. And if he did it 1000000 times to sources and never to a member it would still leave me uneasy knowing he has that capability.

 

[Eman]

This isnt the first time I've heard @CensoredBoardsSuck being accused of having mod powers and/or abusing mod powers. I assumed it was a ridiculous claim. I dunno.


From the underground rules:

(8) Threats of cyber-attack are prohibited.


How about actual cyber attacks?

Or is that rule taken as seriously as the no trolling rule?

This was not a cyber attack.

If your sorry ass doesn't understand the security implications of such data merely existing for EVERYBODY, I feel sorry for you.
2. Betting anybody's security on the hope that somebody had not abused the power before sounds like a smart move.
3. So you are okay with rules only applying to people you don't like?

What security implications are you referring to? That only applies if he's dug into the source through the forum, which he didn't do.

Frankly, I don't care for trying to expose sources through the tech side because it's not cut and dry, I've never seen it prove anything necessarily.

With that said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that something is off here. If you think it's unlikely that PPL bought a HPLC, how likely do you think it is that a STARTUP source just went out and bought one on a whim. How many startups go out and buy something like that? None. How many startups go out and hire the people to use the equipment? They don't.

He had capital to invest in this. He was dug into this business already when he made his intro. If he's not Panda, he's someone else... The simplest answer is usually the correct one, he's Panda.

 

[janoshik]

You have zero clue as to how that information was accessed

That's why I am literally asking that. Multiple times.

Not hard to notice that.

reading available information (which is what CBS has been accused of in this case) is a far cry from a cyber attack. Ddos or something of the like would be a cyber attack.

Well I dont know exactly what he did. If he snatched someones ip address, maybe it's not a "cyber attack", but it shouldnt be allowed. And if he did it 1000000 times to sources and never to a member it would still leave me uneasy knowing he has that capability.

So, @ickyrica you say it's okay if I, in a very hypothetical scenario, snatch somebody's IP in order to expose a connection between two accounts?

What if I'm wrong and there's no connection?

 

[AnTabolic73]

If he posted his proof he'd break the posting of identifying information rule of the underground.

The only way I'd be okay with this is if cbs is actually millard bakers other handle. Then that would be kind of awesome.

 

[AnTabolic73]

But that's all I'm going to say on the matter.

I'll get wrongly accused of defending sources.

 

[ickyrica]

So, @ickyrica you say it's okay if I, in a very hypothetical scenario, snatch somebody's IP in order to expose a connection between two accounts

yes, I think it's perfectly fine regarding sources. Members, no.

Frankly, I don't care for trying to expose sources through the tech side because it's not cut and dry, I've never seen it prove anything necessarily.

I'd agree with this. I do know shaking an apple tree produces something to eat from time to time though...

With that said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that something is off here. If you think it's unlikely that PPL bought a HPLC, how likely do you think it is that a STARTUP source just went out and bought one on a whim. How many startups go out and buy something like that? None. How many startups go out and hire the people to use the equipment? They don't.

He had capital to invest in this. He was dug into this business already when he made his intro. If he's not Panda, he's someone else... The simplest answer is usually the correct one, he's Panda.

Lol, very well put.

 

[janoshik]

What security implications are you referring to? That only applies if he's dug into the source through the forum, which he didn't do.

If he didn't do it through the forum, then it's enough to say so and have some kind of proof of it. I'm not keen on trusting CBS anymore than he is on trusting me.

If it was done through access to the data of the forum, I've lost my faith in the system around here. Not like anybody cares, but seeing Antabolic I'm not alone in that.

If the IP's of everybody are logged and stored then everybody is at risk.

eg malicious actor getting access.

It's not rare for a bug in forum software to make it out into the public and I know for sure that there are people harvesting data for purpose of blackmail over here and elsewhere. What would happen if somebody gained access to the Meso DB or administration interface?

With that said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that something is off here. If you think it's unlikely that PPL bought a HPLC, how likely do you think it is that a STARTUP source just went out and bought one on a whim. How many startups go out and buy something like that? None. How many startups go out and hire the people to use the equipment? They don't.

He had capital to invest in this. He was dug into this business already when he made his intro. If he's not Panda, he's someone else... The simplest answer is usually the correct one, he's Panda.

Very good point.

I do keep notice of all the testing done and the HPLC data MK and PPL posted were from different sources of testing(one shitty in a different way from another).

So that speaks a little bit against that - there are much cheaper ways than buying HPLC to make one source look distinct from another. For example making different fucking website.

So all in all, I'm agreeing you, just shared my point of view that it wouldn't make much financial sense. As you sure know my point of view is quite narrow.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Well I assumed millard had access to that information being the site owner and all. Also I'd trust millard not to use any of that information maliciously.

But only millard.

 

[Holidaypay]

I'm very interested in knowing how CBS did it 2 can u please teach me sensei or just hack purple panda an send me a pound of primo either one works for me

 

[janoshik]

yes, I think it's perfectly fine regarding sources. Members, no.

So the rules for people don't apply in 'some' cases. K.

What if I think a member is a source? And again, what if I'm wrong?

It's godfucking damn slippery slope.



I'm not here to defend the guy( or guys, whatever ), it's the goddamn slippery slope and security issue that's the problem.

If you don't care that there is a possibility of your connection data stored with the possibility that people other than Millard have access to it, well then why don't you share them with us?

 

[Praeceptorem]

Why are you in this thread. ^

 

[Robfromga]

Is it not because you are using the user data obtained from the forum administration interface therefore severely breaking the trust of everybody using the forum?

Because it's either that, or you made both of them click on the same link which tracked their data - which is also bannable offense, as per what @Millard Baker says.

Does anybody else see any other way he could have determined that?

Don't try to play stupid. Anyone with half a brain can check all that stuff on any site. What you are doing is attempting to cast doubt, hoping that someone that doesn't understand how to check an IP address would believe you . Coming from a proven liar, that's rich....go fake some more test results

 

[Holidaypay]

So the rules for people don't apply in 'some' cases. K.

What if I think a member is a source? And again, what if I'm wrong?

It's godfucking damn slippery slope.



I'm not here to defend the guy( or guys, whatever ), it's the goddamn slippery slope and security issue that's the problem.

If you don't care that there is a possibility of your connection data stored with the possibility that people other than Millard have access to it, well then why don't you share them with us?

Jano wtf is with your white night bulshit you don't care about us if u had your way we would all be paying you for weekly testing that never really got done I believe in one set of rules for everyone but the fact that your the one complaining is fuckin hilarious u would fuck us all over the first chance you got so go fake some testing while the community worries about itself

 

[janoshik]

Don't try to play stupid. Anyone with half a brain can check all that stuff on any site. What you are doing is attempting to cast doubt, hoping that someone that doesn't understand how to check an IP address would believe you . Coming from a proven liar, that's rich....go fake some more test results

He first has to get the IP somewhere, you witless baboon.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Why are you in this thread. ^

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/steroid-underground-rules.134349656/

Rules are clear. No where does it distinguish a member from a rep from a source.

Millard already stated sources are allowed to post wherever they want as long as they're not soliciting or trolling.

Regardless of what some members believe the rules to be. They're clear as day to me.

Edit: aside from the stating your affiliation rule. But you know what I mean.

 

[Robfromga]

He first has to get the IP somewhere, you witless baboon.

Every single freaking website has an IP you moron. It's in the meda data. Hell there are free aps to use. It's not that difficult . Oh, and you're posting as a source out of your lane. But you're a liar and a cheat so.....

 

[Holidaypay]

Can't we all just vote to ban this jackass like the cdnguy poll

 

[Robfromga]

It's not difficult .

 

[janoshik]

Every single freaking website has an IP you moron. It's in the meda data. Hell there are free aps to use. It's not that difficult . Oh, and you're posting as a source out of your lane. But you're a liar and a cheat so.....

CBS is talking about "using the same VPN "

Do you think website uses VPN?

Baboon.

It's not difficult .

It is for some.

 

[ickyrica]

What if I think a member is a source?

if you think a member is a source there are reasons beyond IP addressing that cause this concern. Case and point Picholas. You would have no reason to check the IP of a member suspected of being a source. The evidence that leads you to believe they are indeed a source would be obvious, like them soliciting members.