TRT
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Never had one as a kid either...[emoji24] You share yours? Ha
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Savagesteve
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Like the one on grandma's boy with the fish shaped air mattress on the floor next to it?
TRT
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Didn't have one either. We grew up poor, on a farm. The only toy I had was a stick called Barry. He was a rude bastard
Do you think if I kiss and make up @CdnGuy will let me use his?
Lmao! He was pretty rude huh?
I don't know. You can try. Worst case scenario you have to use it at the same time.
Brolloks
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Have you ever been given the cold shoulder by a stick? In his defense - there were a LOT of sticks on that farm, so perhaps the rude one's name wasn't Barry. I'm sick of sticks now.
As long as I get to drive, I reckon it's a reasonable deal. If it's a stick shift though, I'd rather pass. Let me know via PM, CDN. The ball is in your court, padre.
TRT
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Okay nice now.
Oh no. Mr bill.
you are showing your age
ChestRockwell
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I wouldn't be so "matter of fact" here. I've used multiple types of TestE (including pharma) and my bloods on 250-300mg/week always come back in the 1100-1200ng/dL range.
In fact, Bhasin (et al) performed tests on this very topic placing men into various groups, shutting down endogenous testosterone production while administering exogenous testosterone in varying amounts - here was what the average results came back as:
25mg/week - 253ng/dl
50mg/week - 306ng/dl
125mg/week - 542ng/dl
300mg/week - 1345ng/dl
600mg/week - 2370ng/dl
As you can see, 300mg/week put folks on average in the 1300ng/dL range, almost identical to what the Reddit poster posted and a little higher than my own test results routinely come back as.
Bhasin S, Woodhouse L, Casaburi R, Singh AB, Bhasin D, Berman N, Chen X, Yarasheski KE, Magliano L, Dzekov C, Dzekov J, Bross R, Phillips J, Sinha-Hikim I, Shen R, Storer TW. Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec;281(6):E1172-81
Two comments:
1) That study shows nadir/trough levels. Peak would be significantly higher. I don't know if the guy who tested 1390ng/dL @ 250mg E3D tested peak or trough levels but it really doesn't matter bc of point 2
2) the study shows 1300ng/dL average range for 300mg WEEKLY dose. The guy with the poor bloods was doing 250mg TWICE A WEEK or 500mg/wk so he is close to doubling the 300mg weekly dose in the study, albeit it its split into 2 injections per week.
is that free or total test? total I'm guessing?
ChestRockwell
Well-known Member
Ah, my mistake. I somehow got the impression that he tested 1390ng/dL with 300mg/week total...
Total.
even worse, it was e3d
It's total test in the study but as I mentioned, they're nadir or trough values and based on a weekly dose. The guy with bad bloods did 250mg twice a week so if anything it would be closer to the 600mg/wk results from the study but we need to know when he tested in relation to the previous injection to see if he got nadir or peak values.
When I read your post at first I thought that too but I remembered reading 500mg/wk so I went back to double check.
lol, can't lie. I have to look up the terms nadir or trough values
colossus25
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Quick update i brewed up the prop and tren last night and before i started i preformed a melting point test. Both passed almost perfectly within range. Now i know melting point doesn't mean the product is 100% legit but unless he somehow discovered a way to make substances that look smell and melt like the real thing then i doubt that they are fake.
Test_Subject
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That's all well and good, but the guy on reddit was taking 250mg E3D. That's twice a week minimum, or at least 500mg a week of test, sometimes more.
1390 ng/dl is awful for 500+mg per week. Not bunk by any means, but severely under-dosed.
ChestRockwell
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Yep, @Docd187123 already pointed this out a few posts above. I was incorrectly working off the assumption he was taking 250mg/week total.
