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The only comment I can give on your other post, is unless you're dieting down for a show I wouldn't bother with Winny. I dislike the negative effects on your joints. If you want an oral to harden you up a little, but easier on the body, maybe anavar?
I'm running var now and bought winny raws just for shits and giggles. I got em so just figured I'd use them and try and get a feel for either one. See if I can make an educated observation on both. Plus I figure using a nandrolone will help with the joint pain potentially caused by winny.
 
Anavar is great I run it for my shows 70-100 preworkout 8 weeks. I used winny last time as well but I only use it for a show. I don't touch either unless I'm cutting. The one I really want to try is superdrol but I've had problems with dbol and tbol even in the past being lethargic and tired. So I've held off but I've been tempted but to me it's not worth feeling like shit for 3-4 weeks I'd rather just inject what my body responds well to
I don't get lethargic on it and also GH.
 
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Purple panda, I could be mistaken but it looks like I'm the winner of the second game, I picked Atlanta 54. Like I said I could be mistaken but I didn't see anyone else pick Atlanta and get closer to the score without going over. Let me know what's up when you figure it out. My apologies if I'm wrong. Thanks
 
Purple panda, I could be mistaken but it looks like I'm the winner of the second game, I picked Atlanta 54. Like I said I could be mistaken but I didn't see anyone else pick Atlanta and get closer to the score without going over. Let me know what's up when you figure it out. My apologies if I'm wrong. Thanks
You have to guess both and get closest on both.
It's not 2 chances just one.
I'm fixing to go back and start looking at them now.
 
I'm running var now and bought winny raws just for shits and giggles. I got em so just figured I'd use them and try and get a feel for either one. See if I can make an educated observation on both. Plus I figure using a nandrolone will help with the joint pain potentially caused by winny.
Not everybody gets joint pain with Winny ! I personally love Winny and don't get much in the way of side effect.. I get a little dry at 100mg ed , but the only time I run it that high is pre contest the last 7-10 days .. I think it blows anavar outta the water , but everyone reacts to compounds differently ... Hell uve got the raws give em a try :)
 
^^^^^^^^^^Would you guys mind reading this. I don't think I would normally do something like this but my question literally got lost in 5 pages of rambling nonsense.

What are the goals?

. If it's off season I wouldn't touch orals as the personally kill my appetite.

I'm using pandas raws in my test cyp and npp and weight is flying on but I'm also eating way over maintenance.
 
What are the goals?

. If it's off season I wouldn't touch orals as the personally kill my appetite.

I'm using pandas raws in my test cyp and npp and weight is flying on but I'm also eating way over maintenance.
Lean mass. I'm only 5'7" and I have a big frame but I don't want to be BIG. I like having some definition. If I keep a clean diet and don't eat to crazy I figure I can put some solid muscle on and use the winny in the end to clean up. If that makes any sense.
 
Not everybody gets joint pain with Winny ! I personally love Winny and don't get much in the way of side effect.. I get a little dry at 100mg ed , but the only time I run it that high is pre contest the last 7-10 days .. I think it blows anavar outta the water , but everyone reacts to compounds differently ... Hell uve got the raws give em a try :)
Smoke em if you got em right:). You only run 100 for 7-10 days or you increase it to that. If that's the case how much and how long are you running it before that.
 
Smoke em if you got em right

Exactly lol

You only run 100 for 7-10 days or you increase it to that.
Increase to 100 ... I start 40-50mg 6 weeks out , but IMO Winny isn't just a prep drug its a great compound for a cut or recomps anyway you look at it ... Plus its binds to shbg stronger than mast or proviron . but as far as aesthetics are concerned mg for mg it makes anavar its bitch ... IMO of course !
 
Exactly lol


Increase to 100 ... I start 40-50mg 6 weeks out , but IMO Winny isn't just a prep drug its a great compound for a cut or recomps anyway you look at it ... Plus its binds to shbg stronger than mast or proviron . but as far as aesthetics are concerned mg for mg it makes anavar its bitch ... IMO of course !
Cool. Thanks bro. That's my other reason is im running var now at the end of this cycle. Different compounds then what I'll be on in the winter but same theory. I'd like to see for myself the difference between the two.
 
Lean mass. I'm only 5'7" and I have a big frame but I don't want to be BIG. I like having some definition. If I keep a clean diet and don't eat to crazy I figure I can put some solid muscle on and use the winny in the end to clean up. If that makes any sense.

I totally get what you mean. As I said I don't like orals unless last few weeks before a competition. Test npp and mast is excellent. You'll be big and full, round delts without having the shitry sides of tren. It's an mild cycle sides wise but the results are phenomenal. I rate anavar over winny any day but oxys with npp gives the muscle that pop.

Oral have their place but I think the results are short lived compared to oils
 
I totally get what you mean. As I said I don't like orals unless last few weeks before a competition. Test npp and mast is excellent. You'll be big and full, round delts without having the shitry sides of tren. It's an mild cycle sides wise but the results are phenomenal. I rate anavar over winny any day but oxys with npp gives the muscle that pop.

Oral have their place but I think the results are short lived compared to oils
You fuckin suck bro lol. All I was thinking was a kicker in the beginning and a simple test NPP cycle then you haaaadd to go and mention mast with it. Looks like my new new winter cycle just got mast added to it. I do like me some mast so thanks for the info. I'm assuming you've run all three before and like it.
 
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