Thanks panda, just got too friendly too quickly seeing people joking around, but as for "master.on" since I made a post asking people's exp with vial sleeves vs crimp tops he has followed and passive aggressively posted regarding things I have written because he got butt hurt I told him placing a sleeve on a vial is the same as placing a stopper both leave air and are only as sanitary as the person using them. He has basically trolled and I'm done I will stick with posts to eroids where people are not a bunch of little shit starters and actually care about the community. I should have thought twice just reading all the drama reading this source thread start to finish the kinds of people here. I was shocked at your self control with all the accusations and hoops they made you jump through here. Props to you on the self control man. I will keep lurking to see how your shop is going, will probably have to place small orders when dom opens, but $1,200-1,600 order beginning of next year. I will make sure and post on eroids after i finally get to try your business out. Thanks for your help, and advice. Good luck on this site. FYI been trying to log into panda labs for a few hrs and it won't let me, it's kinda my gear porn site as of now lol and I keep changing and tweeting what I plan on ordering. Just thought I would let you know it was not letting me view the site, hopefully all is well with you guys, and just a glitch