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[ulfbehrt]

If I decide to start home brewing I'd definitely rather use a press instead of capsules but from what I've read you can get flagged ordering a press domestically by the company you purchase from. I could be wrong about this if so someone please correct me.

Liquid oral solution bro.

 

[TRT]

Ordering that stuff from China is a BAD idea imho.

I did. No problems at all.

Lab equipment is used for legitimate reasons my man. Unless you're ordering a pill press you should be fine.

I thought you were going into a quality of product coming from China argument. To that id say almost everything comes from China either way. Even if it's made in America it's usually from Chinese components.

Actually you can get a pill.press and declare it with zero issues believe it or not and it won't send up any red flags. Trust me on this one. [emoji6]

 

[Burleyboyz]

I’m pretty sure you can only get in trouble for ordering a pill press that’s designed to print pharmaceutical pills. Like one that presses xanax, hydros, stuff like that not just a generic press.

 

[ulfbehrt]

I did. No problems at all. Actually you can get a pill.press and declare it with zero issues believe it or not and it won't send up any red flags. Trust me on this one. [emoji6]

Well shit eh.

 

[TRT]

I’m pretty sure you can only get in trouble for ordering a pill press that’s designed to print pharmaceutical pills. Like one that presses xanax, hydros, stuff like that not just a generic press.

I'm drawing a blank on what it's called but you can get in trouble for the small part that makes the mark. It's just an insert. They're really small parts so you can get the shipper to hide it in a bottle of shampoo or something.

I'd also like to rephrase something I said. You won't necassarly get in trouble but they'll take more of an interest in you.

 

[Thegreek]

Med lab supply wanted photo ID just to buy a cap em quick machine. I ended up getting it off of eBay. That’s the route I would go if I was you. Not including set up but just in the actual process of weighing and mixing and capping you can get 50 caps in like 20 min. Easy enough.

 

[pb334]

Is the domestic hcg pharm grade?

 

[mdhx3]

Yeah probably so I'm trying to get them to do a 1 liter option.

According to the MSDS for miglyol 840 it contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) max. 2.0 %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 65 – 80.0 %
Capric acid (C10:0) 20.0 – 35.0 %
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.91 – 0.93 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 9 – 12 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.05 Max %
Unsaponifiable matter 0.3 Max %

Miglyol 810 contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) 2 Max %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 65.0 – 80.0%
Capric acid (C10:0) 20.0 – 35.0%
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.94 – 0.95 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 27 – 33 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy Metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.1 Max %
Unsaponifiable Matter 0.3 Max %

Miglyol 812 contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) 2 Max %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 50.0 – 65.0 %
Capric acid (C10:0) 30.0 – 45.0 %
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.94 – 0.95 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 27 – 33 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy Metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.1 Max %
Unsaponifiable Matter 0.3 Max %

All of these are derived from coconut and or palm; thereby making the Miglyol name nothing more than a trademarked version of MCT.
When trying to find a suitable carrier oil for my own injections I bought some Miglyol 840, Clean MCT Pure C8, generic MCT (with C6,C8,C10, and C12),USP cottonseed, USP grapeseed, supermarket soybean, and supermarket safflower oil.
After filtering each of them I injected 0.5ml of each oil into different muscles; taking note of any immediate injection pain and PIP for 4 days.
I had no immediate injection pain from any of them. The Miglyol 840 and the Pure C8 MCT oil both left a sore spot at the injection site for greater than 2 days. It was not terrible; but noticable. The generic MCT mixture did not cause PIP. The pain was purely from inflammation and was relatively short lived.

I recently read some things about synthol just for my own curiosity. To my understanding, synthol is made of MCT. One of the 3 mechanisms of action of synthol is inflammation. So it stands to reason that any variety of MCT oil could cause inflammation and possible PIP.

If this is all common knowledge, I apologize for the lengthy post. I just thought it may be helpful to those wondering if their PIP problems were gear or carrier related. Also I hate to see anyone pay the ridiculous price for Miglyol when there are many MCT oils with similar C8/C10 ratios for much cheaper.

Incidentally, I found my favorite oil (no laughing) to be Louanna Safflower oil from the grocery store. It is thin enough for 25ga needle and zero irritation or PIP.

And yes, I do realize that I injected a total of 3.5ml of oil into my body for a science experiment. I'm not happy about it or proud of it; but it seemed necessary to me because I am going to be using exogenous testosterone for life.

 

[Steve84]

Yah it was a pill press that brought one lab down a while back If I remember correctly?

I'd still say it's far safer to buy all the equipment domestic vs ordering from china, but I could just be overly paranoid here lol.

My source told me.... Mission got busted a strong reason for importing a pill press.

 

[TRT]

Even domestic purchases have to be declared with the DEA. It would be risky to buy from a company in the US and not expect them to inform the DEA or visa-versa.
If mission got busted just for the press then their idiots. It took me 15mins to find out what you would have to do to be safe. Which is to buy it the RIGHT WAY...hint, hint. I've said to much. Lol

 

[Cyrix]

Even domestic purchases have to be declared with the DEA. It would be risky to buy from a company in the US and not expect them to inform the DEA or visa-versa.
If mission got busted just for the press then their idiots. It took me 15mins to find out what you would have to do to be safe. Which is to buy it the RIGHT WAY...hint, hint. I've said to much. Lol

Hahahaha

 

[ulfbehrt]

Even domestic purchases have to be declared with the DEA. It would be risky to buy from a company in the US and not expect them to inform the DEA or visa-versa.
If mission got busted just for the press then their idiots. It took me 15mins to find out what you would have to do to be safe. Which is to buy it the RIGHT WAY...hint, hint. I've said to much. Lol

Did not know that. Thanks man.

 

[LordSamuilo]

According to the MSDS for miglyol 840 it contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) max. 2.0 %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 65 – 80.0 %
Capric acid (C10:0) 20.0 – 35.0 %
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.91 – 0.93 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 9 – 12 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.05 Max %
Unsaponifiable matter 0.3 Max %

Miglyol 810 contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) 2 Max %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 65.0 – 80.0%
Capric acid (C10:0) 20.0 – 35.0%
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.94 – 0.95 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 27 – 33 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy Metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.1 Max %
Unsaponifiable Matter 0.3 Max %

Miglyol 812 contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) 2 Max %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 50.0 – 65.0 %
Capric acid (C10:0) 30.0 – 45.0 %
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.94 – 0.95 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 27 – 33 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy Metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.1 Max %
Unsaponifiable Matter 0.3 Max %

Yes techinically miglyol is a trade name for a few different versions(c8-c10 esters) of mct oil , but 840 imparticular has a very low viscosity , high polarity , and high stability against oxidiation which sets it apart from 810/812 , fractionated mct , ect.

Kinda sucks for people whos bodys dont react well to it because it is all around a superior carrier . Unfortunately, none of that means shit if it cripples you for a week after you take a shot

 

[Athlete127]

never realized how much of a profit some of these sources made until I looked at raw prices wow... makes me want to make my own

 

[mdhx3]

Yes techinically miglyol is a trade name for a few different versions(c8-c10 esters) of mct oil , but 840 imparticular has a very low viscosity , high polarity , and high stability against oxidiation which sets it apart from 810/812 , fractionated mct , ect.

Kinda sucks for people whos bodys dont react well to it because it is all around a superior carrier . Unfortunately, none of that means shit if it cripples you for a week after you take a shot

Yes, the Miglyol 840 was super thin. I could see where it would be very desirable for a carrier.
It was notable to me that I only got soreness and redness from the Miglyol 840 and from the Clean MCT C8. The other MCT I tried was much lower C8 concentration than either of the 2 that gave me PIP.
Makes me wonder if the C8 (Caprylic acid) is responsible for the inflammation??
I really wanted to use the 840 because it is so thin; but I guess I am one of those that can't.

 

[Steve84]

Even domestic purchases have to be declared with the DEA. It would be risky to buy from a company in the US and not expect them to inform the DEA or visa-versa.
If mission got busted just for the press then their idiots. It took me 15mins to find out what you would have to do to be safe. Which is to buy it the RIGHT WAY...hint, hint. I've said to much. Lol

I'm not sure if that is what got them for it..but I was told they imported a pill press which could have been a factor that fucked them.
Or it was the meth they were doing...or that hot as fuck girl they had.
Could've been all of the above.

 

[TRT]

I'm not sure if that is what got them for it..but I was told they imported a pill press which could have been a factor that fucked them.
Or it was the meth they were doing...or that hot as fuck girl they had.
Could've been all of the above.

Oh I'm pretty sure it wasn't the only thing. I don't remember mission labs by the way but I do know hot women are trouble. Ha

 

[Steve84]

Oh I'm pretty sure it wasn't the only thing. I don't remember mission labs by the way but I do know hot women are trouble. Ha

Canadian Lab busted...like 6 months-yr ago.
Go look at her pics, but she was on parole or something charged with murder or some shit like that.
But omg she was hot...

 

[Burleyboyz]

I'm drawing a blank on what it's called but you can get in trouble for the small part that makes the mark. It's just an insert. They're really small parts so you can get the shipper to hide it in a bottle of shampoo or something.

I'd also like to rephrase something I said. You won't necassarly get in trouble but they'll take more of an interest in you.

Yeah that’s what I was talking about some of them come like welded to the press though so they aren’t removable

 

[Roger rabbit]

According to the MSDS for miglyol 840 it contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) max. 2.0 %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 65 – 80.0 %
Capric acid (C10:0) 20.0 – 35.0 %
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.91 – 0.93 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 9 – 12 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.05 Max %
Unsaponifiable matter 0.3 Max %

Miglyol 810 contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) 2 Max %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 65.0 – 80.0%
Capric acid (C10:0) 20.0 – 35.0%
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.94 – 0.95 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 27 – 33 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy Metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.1 Max %
Unsaponifiable Matter 0.3 Max %

Miglyol 812 contains:
Caproic acid (C6:0) 2 Max %
Caprylic acid (C8:0) 50.0 – 65.0 %
Capric acid (C10:0) 30.0 – 45.0 %
Lauric acid (C12:0) 2 Max %
Myristic acid (C14:0) 1 Max %
Density at 20 °C 0.94 – 0.95 g/cm3
Viscosity at 20 °C 27 – 33 mPa·s
Alkaline reactive substances 0.15 Max ml 0.01N HCl/2.00g
Heavy Metals 10 Max mg/kg
Total ash 0.1 Max %
Unsaponifiable Matter 0.3 Max %

All of these are derived from coconut and or palm; thereby making the Miglyol name nothing more than a trademarked version of MCT.
When trying to find a suitable carrier oil for my own injections I bought some Miglyol 840, Clean MCT Pure C8, generic MCT (with C6,C8,C10, and C12),USP cottonseed, USP grapeseed, supermarket soybean, and supermarket safflower oil.
After filtering each of them I injected 0.5ml of each oil into different muscles; taking note of any immediate injection pain and PIP for 4 days.
I had no immediate injection pain from any of them. The Miglyol 840 and the Pure C8 MCT oil both left a sore spot at the injection site for greater than 2 days. It was not terrible; but noticable. The generic MCT mixture did not cause PIP. The pain was purely from inflammation and was relatively short lived.

I recently read some things about synthol just for my own curiosity. To my understanding, synthol is made of MCT. One of the 3 mechanisms of action of synthol is inflammation. So it stands to reason that any variety of MCT oil could cause inflammation and possible PIP.

If this is all common knowledge, I apologize for the lengthy post. I just thought it may be helpful to those wondering if their PIP problems were gear or carrier related. Also I hate to see anyone pay the ridiculous price for Miglyol when there are many MCT oils with similar C8/C10 ratios for much cheaper.

Incidentally, I found my favorite oil (no laughing) to be Louanna Safflower oil from the grocery store. It is thin enough for 25ga needle and zero irritation or PIP.

And yes, I do realize that I injected a total of 3.5ml of oil into my body for a science experiment. I'm not happy about it or proud of it; but it seemed necessary to me because I am going to be using exogenous testosterone for life.

Bad ass post bro! Love it!