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Could use some advice guys. I was going to run my first cycle on 500mg test a week (250 every 3.5 days). Ended up getting the stuff that had mig in it and my body doesn't like it at all. Did 2 pins so far and the 3rd would be tomorrow but I am just going to stop because at this point both glutes are super sore still. Do I need to bother with PCT after only 2 pins?
 
Could use some advice guys. I was going to run my first cycle on 500mg test a week (250 every 3.5 days). Ended up getting the stuff that had mig in it and my body doesn't like it at all. Did 2 pins so far and the 3rd would be tomorrow but I am just going to stop because at this point both glutes are super sore still. Do I need to bother with PCT after only 2 pins?
You should probably expect to be super sore if this is your first cycle. For the first couple of weeks in my first cycle every muscle I pinned was sore for a while. Unless you actually think you are having some sort of allergic reaction I would stick with it for a bit longer. If you don't however, you won't need to PCT after only 2 pins (imo).
 
Nothing personal, but I agree with rpbb. You shouldn't be paying for the failures of your employer. And if they aren't the source you remember from the past, odds are they never were. You just didn't know them as well as you thought.
They would give it back I'm sure but I see your point of view.
I still believe in them I know how many thousands of dollars they refunded and have been losing every week that domestic is closed I agree it should have been handled a little quicker in some instances.
I will continue take feedback from guy's like you and others and make sure that yall's voice and concerns are heard.
No source is perfect and most would have simply bounced and rebranded and kept all that money but they didn't and that speaks volumes to me about ppl.
 
Could use some advice guys. I was going to run my first cycle on 500mg test a week (250 every 3.5 days). Ended up getting the stuff that had mig in it and my body doesn't like it at all. Did 2 pins so far and the 3rd would be tomorrow but I am just going to stop because at this point both glutes are super sore still. Do I need to bother with PCT after only 2 pins?
No two pins won't shut u down if it does ud recover quickly without harsh chemicals for a month . I think it's ur technique it took me till my third cycle to get it down. Personally I jab push n pull out...no slow introduction no aspiration. Like a nurse giving a flu shot. Three seconds.
 
You should probably expect to be super sore if this is your first cycle. For the first couple of weeks in my first cycle every muscle I pinned was sore for a while. Unless you actually think you are having some sort of allergic reaction I would stick with it for a bit longer. If you don't however, you won't need to PCT after only 2 pins (imo).
So it would be normal for it to be sore for 7 days? Maybe I was overreacting after reading all of the mig stuff, but I have had IM injections in my glutes before and only ever had slight pain the following day. I have had minor swelling and it is still tender enough that it hurts just sitting down in my chair at work. If that is normal I may just continue on. Is it ok to inject into the same muscle tomorrow if it is still sore?
 
So it would be normal for it to be sore for 7 days? Maybe I was overreacting after reading all of the mig stuff, but I have had IM injections in my glutes before and only ever had slight pain the following day. I have had minor swelling and it is still tender enough that it hurts just sitting down in my chair at work. If that is normal I may just continue on. Is it ok to inject into the same muscle tomorrow if it is still sore?
no, it's not normal. I've only had one supplier that ever gave me pip like that (my friends didn't have a problem, and the source was very cool about it). Switched sources and never had a problem again
 
So it would be normal for it to be sore for 7 days? Maybe I was overreacting after reading all of the mig stuff, but I have had IM injections in my glutes before and only ever had slight pain the following day. I have had minor swelling and it is still tender enough that it hurts just sitting down in my chair at work. If that is normal I may just continue on. Is it ok to inject into the same muscle tomorrow if it is still sore?
First time around my quads and glutes were sore for close to a week after the first couple of pins. Try warming up the gear before you inject if you are not already, that should help a bit. I wouldn't pin in a muscle which was still sore from an injection but that is just me. Probably need to find a few more injection sites which you are comfortable with .
 
So it would be normal for it to be sore for 7 days? Maybe I was overreacting after reading all of the mig stuff, but I have had IM injections in my glutes before and only ever had slight pain the following day. I have had minor swelling and it is still tender enough that it hurts just sitting down in my chair at work. If that is normal I may just continue on. Is it ok to inject into the same muscle tomorrow if it is still sore?

Just to make sure and I'm sure you are doing everything correct, but can you elaborate on the procedures you do to pin?

Example:

First I take vial out and swab the top with alcohol and let it dry before I put needle in the top.

Second step I do is........
 
I pin after I shower so I am warm. Before I get in the shower I get everything I need out but don't open any of it. Set my vial of test in hot tap water while I shower to heat it up. Get out dry off and roll the vial around to even out the temperature. Swab top of vial, open syringe with draw needle already on it. Pull 2cc of air, inject 1cc of it into vial and pull back to 2cc, then pull needle out of vial and pull back to get the rest of the gear out of the needle before switching to my 25G. Once the 25G is on I push until I get a tiny dribble out the end. Then my wife swabs the injection site and pins me. The first time she tried putting the pin in fast then took 30 seconds to inject and pulled it out and rubbed the alcohol swab on the spot hard to massage in the oil. She was a little shaky the first go. The second time we did it all the same but instead of standing I laid down for the injection so she could brace her arm and wrist better and that time she tried putting the needle in slowly, injecting for 30 seconds, and then pulling it out slowly. Everything else was exactly the same. The pain from both pins was roughly the same. No pain initially, but the following day very tender to the touch. At this point the pain goes all the way from one side to the other across my tailbone. I have been trying to massage and foam roll like crazy. It seems to provide some temporary relief but that is it. I also read that working the muscles after pinning can help disperse the oil and reduce pip so I did squats and hip raises after the second pin.
 
It's hard to say @Preauxtip . It could be the mig. But I know i was sore and even had swelling after my first few pins. I started slowing down and warming up the gear, and more importantly my body was getting acclimated to the injections, and the pip stopped.

I would ride it out a little longer, unless there's a fever or swelling and heat coming from injection site.

I know what you mean about the tail bone pain too, scared the shit out of me. It turned out to be virgin muscle pain though, and rushing my pins too.

Sucks you got mig. I thought they were done selling mig stuff.
 
I pin after I shower so I am warm. Before I get in the shower I get everything I need out but don't open any of it. Set my vial of test in hot tap water while I shower to heat it up. Get out dry off and roll the vial around to even out the temperature. Swab top of vial, open syringe with draw needle already on it. Pull 2cc of air, inject 1cc of it into vial and pull back to 2cc, then pull needle out of vial and pull back to get the rest of the gear out of the needle before switching to my 25G. Once the 25G is on I push until I get a tiny dribble out the end. Then my wife swabs the injection site and pins me. The first time she tried putting the pin in fast then took 30 seconds to inject and pulled it out and rubbed the alcohol swab on the spot hard to massage in the oil. She was a little shaky the first go. The second time we did it all the same but instead of standing I laid down for the injection so she could brace her arm and wrist better and that time she tried putting the needle in slowly, injecting for 30 seconds, and then pulling it out slowly. Everything else was exactly the same. The pain from both pins was roughly the same. No pain initially, but the following day very tender to the touch. At this point the pain goes all the way from one side to the other across my tailbone. I have been trying to massage and foam roll like crazy. It seems to provide some temporary relief but that is it. I also read that working the muscles after pinning can help disperse the oil and reduce pip so I did squats and hip raises after the second pin.
Well clearly that’s you’re problem right there. It’s called the compounding pussy effect. When one pussy injects into another pussy you get overwhelmed with how much of a pussy a man can be. Easy fix though. Man up and shoot that shit yourself. Nah I’m just kidding. Could just be virgin muscle. As long as you’re not getting major swelling or redness. No fever or infection like symptoms hang in there a little while longer. You know your body though so if you feel like you should pull the plug then do it.
 
I pin after I shower so I am warm. Before I get in the shower I get everything I need out but don't open any of it. Set my vial of test in hot tap water while I shower to heat it up. Get out dry off and roll the vial around to even out the temperature. Swab top of vial, open syringe with draw needle already on it. Pull 2cc of air, inject 1cc of it into vial and pull back to 2cc, then pull needle out of vial and pull back to get the rest of the gear out of the needle before switching to my 25G. Once the 25G is on I push until I get a tiny dribble out the end. Then my wife swabs the injection site and pins me. The first time she tried putting the pin in fast then took 30 seconds to inject and pulled it out and rubbed the alcohol swab on the spot hard to massage in the oil. She was a little shaky the first go. The second time we did it all the same but instead of standing I laid down for the injection so she could brace her arm and wrist better and that time she tried putting the needle in slowly, injecting for 30 seconds, and then pulling it out slowly. Everything else was exactly the same. The pain from both pins was roughly the same. No pain initially, but the following day very tender to the touch. At this point the pain goes all the way from one side to the other across my tailbone. I have been trying to massage and foam roll like crazy. It seems to provide some temporary relief but that is it. I also read that working the muscles after pinning can help disperse the oil and reduce pip so I did squats and hip raises after the second pin.
You can heat with a coffee warmer or candle warmer and inject slow that helps alot I also did 1/2ml and worked my way up till I got used to it.
But if it gets hot or fever then I would stop.
 
I ordered early-mid December and got some masteron and liquid anavar. Messaged them after reading here about the possible contamination. They said they’d resend the masteron once domestic was up and running again, but didn’t mention the liquid anavar. Thinking off giving it a go, but a couple issues: 1) the cap on the var was loose in the packaging and some dripped out. 2) the labeling was handwritten so things seemed iffy. 3) not sure if the liquid var is meant to be drank or drawn and injected.

Thoughts?
 
I ordered early-mid December and got some masteron and liquid anavar. Messaged them after reading here about the possible contamination. They said they’d resend the masteron once domestic was up and running again, but didn’t mention the liquid anavar. Thinking off giving it a go, but a couple issues: 1) the cap on the var was loose in the packaging and some dripped out. 2) the labeling was handwritten so things seemed iffy. 3) not sure if the liquid var is meant to be drank or drawn and injected.

Thoughts?

Oral bud. It's made with Everclear. I can only imagine the pain of injecting that into a muscle o_O
 

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