PurplePandaLabs Raw source

[mayweather]

Fuck this lab stay away from them.

So Here's my anecdote. Keep in mind I have not had bloods drawn to test, but I can almost certainly say this gear is extremely under dosed or it is bunk. I'm sure a lot people that bought their gear from their domestic side were just hopping on cycle so maybe it would take a while to determine it was bunk.

Me and a friend, however, both decided to swap labs and give panda a try mid cycle. And, what do you know, Shut down completely within a few weeks. I was taking cyp before so it took a little while to notice, but sure enough I started losing size, libido and crashing hard. My friend shoots me a text few weeks in pissed his dick isn't working anymore. I ordered mine on 11/13/17 from domestic if anyone is wondering. If you ordered around that time, yours is probably bunk too.

So, I swapped gear back to old source at first sign of crashing, but my friend had no gear to switch to so he had to start pct. I emailed panda's rep at first mention of meso members finding trash in the vials and I also mentioned feeling shut down. He claimed he would refund my money and hasn't responded since even after several follow up emails.

Even when these guys put their whole reputation on the line for one untested fucktard internet brewer and bad vials inevitably get sent out, They Will NOT make it right.

Go find another source boys. There plenty of good sources that will happily take your money.

I ordered around the same time,I don't have bloods but I feel like you are full of shit. I was using elite before and while I would believe them being underdosed,no way I am shut down.

 

[Cramps88]

Right that’s what I said. After the fact people are finding stuff in his vials. Elite had a good rep in Meso when Panda hired him. If people would have checked their vials from Elite they would have found contaminants.

Sorry I misread it, my bad.

 

[Dw725]

I ordered on Oct. 9 and my blood work was OK.

Based on the 5 day half life of test e, your levels are about 70% of where they should be at 72 hours. If the vials have batch numbers, I would be interested to see if mine match yours. I don't have the vials here, but can check in the morning.

Not sure what you're basing that off of. If everyone thinks test peaks at 48 hours , then by my math it's about 46 percent of where it should be for a split dose peak. So 24ish hours after peak we get a 60 percent reduction in serum test levels ?

Sorry. But no.

Also, again, explain the other member who pulled bloods at 48 hours and had damn near the same numbers with these made up pharmacokinetics you're using....

 

[mayweather]

Right that’s what I said. After the fact people are finding stuff in his vials. Elite had a good rep in Meso when Panda hired him. If people would have checked their vials from Elite they would have found contaminants.

You are right though,elite did have a good rep. I never got bloods but at first it seemed pretty good. I also don't believe his gear is bunk because i am on a G of test and if I skip a dose of 25mg asin I get swollen nipples. I will be forced to spend money I dont have on bloods now....

 

[Digger]

I'd say there's a fair bit of wolves wearing sheep's clothing in here. We need to get it tested, and it sounds like its already happening. We need to keep level heads and not let the words of others influence us so easily, especially on the net. I can literally type anything right now, and post it for the world to see. You can't just believe everything you read and set fire to the bed cause your cold. We need data before decisions are made.

 

[Dw725]

There wasn’t much people complained about

Selective memory. Plenty of guys slammed elite. I don't remember any stand up guys around here vouching for him. You say elite had a good rep? He wasn't even here more than a few months from what I remember, and he couldn't keep up with his small time demand even then. Wasn't even long enough to build a "rep" in my opinion.

 

[Digger]

You are right though,elite did have a good rep. I never got bloods but at first it seemed pretty good. I also don't believe his gear is bunk because i am on a G of test and if I skip a dose of 25mg asin I get swollen nipples. I will be forced to spend money I dont have on bloods now....

That's what's so fucked up, people were digging elite. Then panda hired him, then hair in vial and more. Then mother fuckers started checking elite and lo and behold there's junk in those old vials. Now how did that go unnoticed?

 

[crau85]

Sorry I misread it, my bad.

All good man. And thanks for sending samples to analyzer. It’s a big help to the community that we know one way or the other what’s being sold.

You are right though,elite did have a good rep. I never got bloods but at first it seemed pretty good. I also don't believe his gear is bunk because i am on a G of test and if I skip a dose of 25mg asin I get swollen nipples. I will be forced to spend money I dont have on bloods now....

Right everyone for the most part was happy. If checks would have been done sooner his sloppiness wouldn’t have bled over here. Not to take blame off Panda, but everyone was happy with Elite.....

 

[crau85]

@Dw725
Not selective memory. I already stated the only complaints I saw were uneven fill levels and crooked labels. He couldn’t keep up with demand because people were buying his shit up like hot cakes.

 

[Dw725]

words of others influence us so easily

Influence you to what? Not use this source? How is that even a bad thing, with this sources history? unless you have a vested interest , or don't want to see your only source go down because you don't have a back up?

Blind leading the blind in here. I've had a negative experience here, and keep seeing our members have negative experiences here.

They made right by myself and many guys financially, but each time we order we take a risk. How many guys should keep taking those risks for no reward?

I won't post in this thread anymore. It's usually not my style to be this involved in the underground. I see why a lot of the guys who used to try to keep shit straight around here don't come around anymore.

 

[AnTabolic73]

I'd say there's a fair bit of wolves wearing sheep's clothing in here. We need to get it tested, and it sounds like its already happening. We need to keep level heads and not let the words of others influence us so easily, especially on the net. I can literally type anything right now, and post it for the world to see. You can't just believe everything you read and set fire to the bed cause your cold. We need data before decisions are made.

Well said.

I give the members the benefit of the doubt only because I know it's happened before. So maybe he made another bad batch of test e. But I definitely agree with what your saying. I have some bloods right now on 200ish mg test e a week. Levels came out to 1200. What's to stop me from posting those and saying I was injecting a gram?

Anything is possible.

 

[mayweather]

Influence you to what? Not use this source? How is that even a bad thing, with this sources history? unless you have a vested interest , or don't want to see your only source go down because you don't have a back up?

Blind leading the blind in here. I've had a negative experience here, and keep seeing our members have negative experiences here.

They made right by myself and many guys financially, but each time we order we take a risk. How many guys should keep taking those risks for no reward?

I won't post in this thread anymore. It's usually not my style to be this involved in the underground. I see why a lot of the guys who used to try to keep shit straight around here don't come around anymore.

Because it's a game of cat and mouse. Meso is about as clean as it is ever going to get. Ology and other boards have their own brand they promote that is usually SUPER under dosed,and they just delete bad reviews/ban people. At least meso people have a voice,I have never seen someone here get banned and some people have pushed some big buttons.

 

[Digger]

Well said.

I give the members the benefit of the doubt only because I know it's happened before. So maybe he made another bad batch of test e. But I definitely agree with what your saying. I have some bloods right now on 200ish mg test e a week. Levels came out to 1200. What's to stop me from posting those and saying I was injecting a gram?

Anything is possible.

Exactly. There's more than one way to be made to look a fool. If you can't see it, it's likely it's you.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Because it's a game of cat and mouse. Meso is about as clean as it is ever going to get.

Clean as in What? The difference between meso and a source board is that the corruption is obvious on the source boards. Not so obvious here, but it exists.

I see why a lot of the guys who used to try to keep shit straight around here don't come around anymore.

I dunno bro. Maybe those guys don't come around because it's obvious they had ulterior motives? Maybe they're still around but under different handles.

 

[HIGHRISK]

You're beginning to turn the page and are starting to sound like a rep on the defensive and biting back instead of a rep who's trying to help and sort things out. I'm kinda disappointed seeing that.

I agree somewhat but I bet he's just about over this rep shit he's dealing with. I'm sensing he about to say fuck this lab. I've been saying this shit about this lab for about 300 plus pages. It's always something with ppl always!

 

[Thegreek]

Why didn’t anyone find shit in their vials when Elite was brewing for themselves? There wasn’t much people complained about other than crooked labels and inconsistent fill levels. If people would have inspected their stuff for trash this could have been avoided.

Panda hired Elite based on his current reputation on Meso. This could have been avoided if the people ordering from Elite would have checked their vials, because after the fact all of a sudden people are finding trash in their Elite stash.

I remember omega having some issues with multiple low bloods. Analyzer found that his test e was actually overdosed, but I want to say it was @Thegreek or @Jeffg353 that came back with 2000’s on 600 a week (actual 660). It seems to me that bloods don’t mean a whole lot.. neither does anecdotal evidence. I myself questioned raw potency when I homebrewed some cyp and bloods came in lower than I expected, but everyone here told me people respond differently and I can’t base it on bloods.

Everyone wants the labs to mass spec their shit, but the user can draw bloods and say shits underdosed? Seems one sided.

This thread seems bipolar and it’s hard to get any solid info.. especially with the other labs shills that have an agenda being here. The PCOM shills need to go back to the PCOM thread. They have plenty of poor bloods over there they can bash on. I remember a rash of bad bloods from PCOM just a few months ago.

Lastly when will domestic reopen @PurplePandaLabs Rep.

Kidding... I do t usually buy finished

I wasn’t the one with the bloods I was the one that sent his test e 300 out for testing. I don’t think he was using panda raws then. I think it was some left over shit from a previous lab. If it was pandas it came back like 15-18 percent overdosed.

 

[Cramps88]

Well said.

I give the members the benefit of the doubt only because I know it's happened before. So maybe he made another bad batch of test e. But I definitely agree with what your saying. I have some bloods right now on 200ish mg test e a week. Levels came out to 1200. What's to stop me from posting those and saying I was injecting a gram?

Anything is possible.

I fully agree people will always scam that's why to be sure I'm sending two of my sealed vials for testing the Rep should get back to me tomorrow about paying for it. I was going to pay out of pocket to test it but he stepped up and is paying. I actually hope that it tests well. I don't want to see any lab fail it would be nice for our community to have decent and consistent labs. I am still a bit worried about it due to some of my other test results which I posted for the community. But we will see and the numbers won't lie one way or another. I keep everyone posted as things move along.

 

[Heavy Iron]

I think through this whole debacle testing should remain anonymous... IMO

 

[fatniggaleeroy]

I have quite a few vials from several different labs. only 1 vial of Tren E from PP keeps crashing. i warm it up with the gf hair dryer and it crashes again. just wondering why it only happens to that one vial. sorry to be offtopic. peace

 

[androgenics89]

Elite was garbage, anyone that reads his thread can clearly see that. I personally got bloods on PPL test p multiple times and they came out just fine, though this was a couple months ago. While I do agree the numbers on the bloodwork recently shown are low, I think we should wait for solid proof before burning this lab down. Many things affect TT, when I run masteron for example my SHBG DRAMATICALLY decreases which gives me a MUCH LOWER TT count but a MUCH HIGHER FT count. Don’t know if these guys were running a DHT, but there are too many variables that are unknown with this bloodwork to make a decision. Wait for the results
Edit: Test P was raws