Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Thecabanaboy]

Has anyone got a pack that has essential oil labels on them?

I order some test
And all times prior there was no label

 

[Jerdboben]

It’s the principle, plain and simple. Do you remember the time when QSC isn’t too keen on product testing? They didn’t do it because they want you to be safe, they did it after vets badgered them and demanded for it, even then it was still a struggle. What pushed them to do so a year or so ago, was that it boosts sales to have those jano tests next to your products.

What was rare before is now a requirement in order to be competitive. People forget that, or they haven’t been in this game long enough.

We as a community call out shit this vendors pull to keep them honest so the younger generation won’t have to be at the mercy of the sources like we experienced decades ago.

I am not being a white knight or some hero, it’s not my money or personal business, but I am trying to keep alive what the oldies of this board fought to gain and maintain. Unless we want to turn Meso into a source board then that is on us.

To reduce harm to your pocket and personal freedom is still harm reduction.

As for dumb members and their shenanigans, that is a separate issue and I think they got called out and shamed for it already.

Well said! Plain and simple.

 

[bubba618]

Why? A significant portion of the members are idiots

Harm reduction you say? Awesome. This particular UGL moves a great deal of product that undergoes a great deal of scrutiny, does third party testing on every product and has plenty of blind testing from the community to back up those results. From my perspective this is ideal from a harm reduction perspective. No other UGL that I know of does the same regardless of cost.

Only because this forum has held vendor's feet to the fire to raise their standards.

With that in mind I don't give a fuck if some idiot couldn’t be bothered to communicate with a vendor that sent something to them in error. By his own admission, he sat on it, discarded it and in doing so fucked up the relationship with the vendor and then pretended it never happened and ordered again.

That's where I am on this as well.

I couldn’t give a fuck about members that can’t figure out crypto nor do I give a fuck about idiots that put “ILLEGAL DRUGS” in the notes of their bank transfers. Some folks are incompetent and this ain’t supposed to be easy. Probably, they ought to find a friend that is competent to help them out.

Very true. I think that while we do have a responsibility to call out vendors for failure to perform, we also have a responsibility to call out customers who make absolutely atrocious errors in judgement or act unreasonably.

I would have preferred had Tracy simply blacklisted JustToReview in perpetuity for their actions. That said, if JustToReview thinks it appropriate to keep things sent to them, then Tracy keeping funds sent to him should be fine - eye-for-an-eye and all. Not my style, but at least not hypocritical.

 

[CFH016]

Has anyone got a pack that has essential oil labels on them?

I order some test
And all times prior there was no label

I had something like that on the customs paperwork it came with if I remember correctly. Some kind of beauty supplies

 

[Thecabanaboy]

I had something like that on the customs paperwork it came with if I remember correctly. Some kind of beauty supplies

Okay thank you I figured it was for safety reason the labels were put on the vials so I was curious

 

[CFH016]

Okay thank you I figured it was for safety reason the labels were put on the vials so I was curious

Oh they're on the vials? I ordered raws and I think it was MT1... nothing was written on the bags or vials, just on customs paperwork. Maybe it helps pass customs if they see it marked on the vials... a lazy inspector sees it and pushes it through perhaps?

 

[Thecabanaboy]

Oh they're on the vials? I ordered raws and I think it was MT1... nothing was written on the bags or vials, just on customs paperwork. Maybe it helps pass customs if they see it marked on the vials... a lazy inspector sees it and pushes it through perhaps?

I think so.
Makes sense to me.
I had to reconstitute the vials anyways and the labels came off.

 

[egruberman]

It’s the principle, plain and simple. Do you remember the time when QSC isn’t too keen on product testing? They didn’t do it because they want you to be safe, they did it after vets badgered them and demanded for it, even then it was still a struggle. What pushed them to do so a year or so ago, was that it boosts sales to have those jano tests next to your products.

No disagreement here. The problem I see are the old-heads coming out of the woodwork spouting off about "harm reduction" when really they just don't like the vendor's attitude towards idiotic customers.

I love the vendor's attitude towards idiotic customers and feel like it aids in harm reduction. If they can't handle basic shit like ordering illegal drugs off the Internet, how can we expect them to get their compounds and dosing correct?

Finally, many of us are enjoying the present circumstances. As it states in the rules, this board isn't for the benefit of any individual, but for the whole of the community and as far as I can tell the whole of the community is benefitting from access to cheap, well-tested gear and there's a few idiotic meat-heads trying to fuck that up.

I definitely remember a time when that wasn't the case and also remember a time when QSC was fucking things up, but from where I sit, they've worked pretty diligently to address those issues and the only issues that seem to remain are one-off bullshit issues that affect one fucking entitled meat-head and not the community at large.

If they shipped out a batch of bad gear or peptides or whatever, I'd roast 'em. One shipping error and one butthurt meat-head doesn't represent an issue the community needs to be concerned about.

 

[Jerdboben]

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No disagreement here. The problem I see are the old-heads coming out of the woodwork spouting off about "harm reduction" when really they just don't like the vendor's attitude towards idiotic customers.

I love the vendor's attitude towards idiotic customers and feel like it aids in harm reduction. If they can't handle basic shit like ordering illegal drugs off the Internet, how can we expect them to get their compounds and dosing correct?

Finally, many of us are enjoying the present circumstances. As it states in the rules, this board isn't for the benefit of any individual, but for the whole of the community and as far as I can tell the whole of the community is benefitting from access to cheap, well-tested gear and there's a few idiotic meat-heads trying to fuck that up.

I definitely remember a time when that wasn't the case and also remember a time when QSC was fucking things up, but from where I sit, they've worked pretty diligently to address those issues and the only issues that seem to remain are one-off bullshit issues that affect one fucking entitled meat-head and not the community at large.

If they shipped out a batch of bad gear or peptides or whatever, I'd roast 'em. One shipping error and one butthurt meat-head doesn't represent an issue the community needs to be concerned about.

The floaters in their oil still is very concerning..

 

[hodormontana]

Has anyone got a pack that has essential oil labels on them?

I order some test
And all times prior there was no label

That’s not something you should post publically

 

[Exhortae]

Been using quingdao for some time. Everything was fine and good regarding quality and shipping time, communication etc.
Last order was
50g Trenbolone Acetate
50g NPP
100g Testosterone Cypionate.

Instead of cypionate i got Testosterone enanthate. I knew already that it was not cypionate as soon as i opened the package since cypionate can never melt at little higher than room temperature,and enanthate has a much lower melting point... but oh well i brewed it,with the same recipe i have used for years, standard 20%BB 1%BA test is test right ?
Very very painful injections up to the point that you can not walk for a few days. Something is not right with the raw powder batch of Testosterone Enanthate that i got,maybe others can also chime in, and i also read here on this thread that his finished testosterone enanthate oils are causing trouble to many users.Thats the exact reason why i did not want to do anything with his Testosterone Enanthate, not in raw form and not in oil finished product form.

Never complained to Quingdao about this, nor am i asking for a refund, since ive moved on to another source already. Im just writting my experience.Source is good until they screw up. Then you move on to another and roll the dice again. Thats just how it is.
I guess with so much volume of orders they got lately, they are having trouble arranging orders properly, or they sent me Testosterone Enanthate instead of cypionate on purpose, which was not right. Whatever happened, not a good experience with my last order.

I have the same problem as you. I ordered testosterone Undecanoate and upon arrival the powder was completely melted with this distinctive pine smell of testosterone enanthate.

Just sent a whatsapp message to qsc, let’s see what she says about it.

 

[Big_bowl0tren]

Confirmed payment on Saturday, received tracking on Tuesday, received package on Thursday.... I love potassium, I don't like cramps!

Careful on this forum you'll have a potassium overdose before you know it.

 

[egruberman]

The floaters in their oil still is very concerning..

For one, it's well understood, for two, it's filter material, for three, it is an issue they claim to have fixed. Many very experienced folks have explained why it's no big deal, so while I agree that it's a concern, I wouldn't say it qualifies as "very concerning".

I'm well into my second kit of primo and test c from them and just run it through a filter before using it.

 

[MB101]

No disagreement here. The problem I see are the old-heads coming out of the woodwork spouting off about "harm reduction" when really they just don't like the vendor's attitude towards idiotic customers.

I love the vendor's attitude towards idiotic customers and feel like it aids in harm reduction. If they can't handle basic shit like ordering illegal drugs off the Internet, how can we expect them to get their compounds and dosing correct?

Finally, many of us are enjoying the present circumstances. As it states in the rules, this board isn't for the benefit of any individual, but for the whole of the community and as far as I can tell the whole of the community is benefitting from access to cheap, well-tested gear and there's a few idiotic meat-heads trying to fuck that up.

I definitely remember a time when that wasn't the case and also remember a time when QSC was fucking things up, but from where I sit, they've worked pretty diligently to address those issues and the only issues that seem to remain are one-off bullshit issues that affect one fucking entitled meat-head and not the community at large.

If they shipped out a batch of bad gear or peptides or whatever, I'd roast 'em. One shipping error and one butthurt meat-head doesn't represent an issue the community needs to be concerned about.

No member should get stolen from or scammed regardless of being a complete mental midget. Qsc can refuse someone service and not take their money.

 

[Ghoul]

Man I like QSC, I hope that this whole incident gets solved and everything’s settled. But giving out customers info and asking to forward it is crazy

Here's the thing. Once a UGL vendor has your info, you have no idea WHO gets access to it. So it really doesn't compromise your security any more than it already is. Nevermind the unpleasant revaluation that the govt has a habit of logging international shipments even when they're not inspected, for use retroactively, per the court docs in the New Hampshire lab bust docs in the legal section.

After dealing with another UGL supplier for a high dollar order I started getting contacted on a private # by Venezuelan Pig Stickers from Florida (gangs pretending to be women) texting me nudes trying to set up "dates".

 

[Anubis666]

That’s not something you should post publically

At least they didn't include pix.

 

[Ghoul]

Been using quingdao for some time. Everything was fine and good regarding quality and shipping time, communication etc.
Last order was
50g Trenbolone Acetate
50g NPP
100g Testosterone Cypionate.

Instead of cypionate i got Testosterone enanthate. I knew already that it was not cypionate as soon as i opened the package since cypionate can never melt at little higher than room temperature,and enanthate has a much lower melting point... but oh well i brewed it,with the same recipe i have used for years, standard 20%BB 1%BA test is test right ?
Very very painful injections up to the point that you can not walk for a few days. Something is not right with the raw powder batch of Testosterone Enanthate that i got,maybe others can also chime in, and i also read here on this thread that his finished testosterone enanthate oils are causing trouble to many users.Thats the exact reason why i did not want to do anything with his Testosterone Enanthate, not in raw form and not in oil finished product form.

Never complained to Quingdao about this, nor am i asking for a refund, since ive moved on to another source already. Im just writting my experience.Source is good until they screw up. Then you move on to another and roll the dice again. Thats just how it is.
I guess with so much volume of orders they got lately, they are having trouble arranging orders properly, or they sent me Testosterone Enanthate instead of cypionate on purpose, which was not right. Whatever happened, not a good experience with my last order.

That's pretty fkd up. There seems to be something wrong with Test E raws coming from a major, or maybe the only producer (who knows?) in China. Many previously reliable brands are having reports of bad PIP all of a sudden with Test E. Someone mentioned E breaks down into irritating substances. I'm telling them to switch to Cyp to avoid the issue.

Hopefully not something worse in there...

 

[CFH016]

No member should get stolen from or scammed regardless of being a complete mental midget. Qsc can refuse someone service and not take their money.

Honestly that's probably the safest way of to do it. If q had accounts shut down for accepting the money, why would they continue to accept it even if they decided not to send anything. They still get flagged. Safest thing to do would be to reject the payment and blacklist the buyer.

BUT I have no sympathy for someone who loses their money because they do something stupid like that. I ain't flip flopping on that stance, I just think there's better ways of handling it.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

** BEWARE **
This supplier mailed me a random package. They then proceeded to tell me to mail it to another address in the US or pay them for it. For one, it’s was peptides and raw powder, both of which I know nothing about or how to use them. For two, I have never mailed anything illegal from my home or postage office, have no experience on how to be safe doing that, etc. I simply discarded the stuff & it ended up getting thrown out whenever I moved apartments. Fast forwards 9 months, I make an order - they take the money ($110) & then say I can get my order whenever I pay them for the random package which was close to $1000 in value. Meso upgraded my account so I could post on here for others to beware of this scam. Attached are pics of the conversation with the rep that ripped me off.

This has happened to me but with only $100 worth of stuff.

You made out Ike a bandit!

But yeah they sent me the “wrong” order then asked me to ship it to someone. Gave me all his info, no hesitation. Name address, everything.

 

[Northfortuly]

I don’t get it.

Why does Tracy have to leave the scene because of this? I see some of you “dick ride” for certain sources here that are revered on other forums for being crooks and dishonest.

I think it’s all subjective and not one single source, vendor, or lab is worthy of the god-like status and worship it gets anywhere. If you dive deep enough you’ll find proof your special little guy is shady.