Couldn’t have announced this 12 hours ago before I ordered? Lol damn
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Well, at 10mg Tirz a week each vial would last 5 weeks which is perfectly fine. Or couples that share also a great option. I’ve heard some people dose up to 30mg a week… which to me is insane to even imagine!
HB_22
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Put half of the kit in the freezer and it will stay fine for a very long time.
Ghoul
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HB_22
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Theres nothing wrong with freezing peptides, as long as they are not reconstituted.
Ghoul
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That's not correct. Domestic freezers have significant temperature swings. Even a conservative 10 F swing in temp could cause the moisture content in peptides to freeze, then thaw, and refreeze, many times a day, forming ice crystals that cause mechanical stresses that break peptide chains.
Pharmaceutical lyophilized peptides are never frozen, only refrigerated.
HB_22
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If you are still using your grandmas 40 year old freezer, sure, I agree. But modern freezers are very reliable machines, mine is holding the temperature of -18C very accurately. If you dont trust your freezer put a tiny temperature monitor in and take some readings over the time frame of 48hrs.
Still got 5 or 6 bottles of both from memory. Not color changes that I've noticed. I still brew with GSO and it looks the same.
Its not like its exposed to oxygen much once its sealed up in the vial. I was always taught that it was oxygen and UV light that needed to be avoided, plus moisture. Seems to hold up with what I've experienced over the years.
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Ghoul
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Your freezer doesn't hold -18f without variation, that's nonsense. The compressor doesn't kick in at -17f and turn off at -18f.
What happens when the coils are automatically defrosted?
What happens when you open it, or add unfrozen content to the freezer?
narta
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If you are 40+ 2iu is a good "let's get back to 20s" dose. 4iu will promote fat loss and general well being with skin and hair becoming more youthfull
narta
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Modern freezers have defrost cycles. Because you don't get soft meat doesn't mean it doesn't have temp variation. A tiny amount of moisture can wreck havoc a peptide. Refrigeration is fine for storage
Raws were from ChemBase's from memory. We didn't have access to much independent testing back then so took the supplier on their claimed purity... So who knows what the starting purity was. I always grew extremely well on their stuff though and used it exclusively for a good number of years while competing. Maybe some of the other older member might have a better idea about that suppliers purity claims to give a baseline indication?
I might in future if I get some spare $. Currently stocking up on a few things so don't have the $ spare to throw at it ATM. Ill keep you posted if I end up sending some in.
Ghoul
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Part of the problem is people think as long as the freezer stays "below freezing" at all times, the moisture in peptides stays frozen. That only applies to pure water. The primary contaminant in peptides are residual salts. What does salt do to the ice on roads? Lowers the freezing point. So if the salt saturated water in your peptide now has a modified freezing temp of -15f, and your awesome, modern freezer that you never open somehow only swings between -13f and -18f you're repeatedly crossing the freezing point and then thawing, and refreezing over and over many times a day.
Again, unreconstituted pharma peptides like Somatropin are never frozen in storage or transport, only refrigerated.
I'd be open to it, I'd have to go through and see what I've got, then everyone that wanted to chip in can choose what gets sent in. One of the more established members here can handle the funds, I'll put up the raws.
HereToTeachAndLearn
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I would contribute.
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.5mL per 15mg is more concentrated than the post you're arguing with that suggested 2mL for 50mg. So you provided a good example of why the 10mL vial you requested is not necessary. Great work this is what happens when you spam the forum just to hear yourself talk.
We won't even get into the fact of how many people dose 10-20 units of GH all the time.
Janoshik has recommended freezing peptides before. He's probably more knowledgeable than most people here. Especially people who argue with themselves then lose.
Anecdotally, I have some peptides that have been in the freezer for a few years at this point. If I reconstitute MT2 and take a micro dose I can very clearly feel it working via nausea. There is always potential that it's no longer 10mg though. If you pay Janoshik I'll send some in for testing...or you can just continue spamming with no actual facts.
twistedfire11
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unreconstituded peptides need to be refrigerated? I have always keep them in a cool dry place only refrigerated once I constituted. What is the difference longer shelf life? How long do they last?
Trailmixed
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The degradation time of the peptide slopes much less steep when kept in a cold environment over a long period of time. Generally from what I’ve read and heard, most suggest freezing the lypophilized peptide.
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