Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Save the IT and indian effort and just learn to use Discord, which is as simple as instagram, facebook…
Using the forum is more complicated than using Discord imo
People already funded some tests, donated, voted many tests and the first one was released few days ago.

Yeah. More than fair enough. Imma check it out

 

[Cereal masturbator]

I'm German. If I was Millard's top guy, I would clean up this thread like you wouldn't believe.
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Like the last time a german tried to ‘clean up’ went so well

 

[SunWukong]

I mailed a member scammed of 700 by Pinnacle elements free gear. In the year you've been here you haven't tested a single thing either so why are you saying I haven't done anything? Try looking in the mirror before you preach.

You are the one taking the “high moral road”. Defend your position.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I mailed a member scammed of 700 by Pinnacle elements free gear.

What? You personally sent @funkygiraffe gear. Seems shady. You gonna post this in that thread?

 

[UncleBuns]

I mailed a member scammed of 700 by Pinnacle elements free gear. In the year you've been here you haven't tested a single thing either so why are you saying I haven't done anything? Try looking in the mirror before you preach.

Damn. That's a generous move. Respect.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

I mailed a member scammed of 700 by Pinnacle elements free gear. In the year you've been here you haven't tested a single thing either so why are you saying I haven't done anything? Try looking in the mirror before you preach.

I applaud that. I'm sure you made a big different in his life. Thank you for being such a nice person. We need more people like you in this world (and espeacially on this forum)

 

[baxter0312]

I mailed a member scammed of 700 by Pinnacle elements free gear. In the year you've been here you haven't tested a single thing either so why are you saying I haven't done anything? Try looking in the mirror before you preach.

Wait what happened there again?

 

[Dirthand]

Questions about color of tops start to becoming a pain in the ass to my assistants.
For international orders, we number the kits, for domestic orders we have SKU on the boxes.
Customers should be able to identify easily their products using the SKU, and if they have doubts, they can ask about the meaning of the SKU.
Some customers to get extra confirmation, claim they threw the boxes, or the packs have no SKU which is impossible. This add extra work, and wasting time emails over this subject.
From now on you only can ask questions about SKU (domestic) and numbers (international) to identify your multiple items.
If you threw the packaging, or your wive or daughter opened your packs and threw the packaging that's your problem from now on, either find a way to know what it is it or send it for testing.
From now on all questions regarding color of tops will not be answered.
I hope this will be very clear.

I posted that information on here all the time. It does no good. First thing in the morning someone will be asking what color tops are the mast e.....

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Go team Zyzz!

lets all fuck ourselves up with a bunch of steroids, recs. and leave a legacy at the age of 21 or 22. Hell yeah.


I lived a full life.

 

[Dirthand]

Can we put up a poll to possibly rename this thread? I suggest "Battle of the Bros". We can have a scoreboard and instant replays and everything. There will be a point system based on how bad each post burns the other bro.

I would like to see how they all would respond to each other in person!!!

 

[funkygiraffe]

What? You personally sent @funkygiraffe gear. Seems shady. You gonna post this in that thread?

Yes. Was going to put that in my thread and thank him once it arrived.

 

[Ghoul]

Yes. Was going to put that in my thread and thank him once it arrived.

LOL, so boasting before actually doing it? Well at least he's locked in now.

 

[micro2000]

And in the case of endotoxin, are you saying vials of homebrew and UGL won't exceed the 3.5 EUs per mg of testosterone safe level specified by the FDA? I suspect it'll be ten times higher than the safety limit or more.

As a microbiologist, I wouldn't take that bet.

 

[iris]

As a microbiologist, I wouldn't take that bet.

And that is why you, personally, only use gear that has been through the process of Terminal Sterilization, I guess

 

[egruberman]

LOL, so boasting before actually doing it? Well at least he's locked in now.

I'm still waiting for you to address my very reasonable questions.

 

[AlexDavis43]

LOL, so boasting before actually doing it? Well at least he's locked in now.

I'm still waiting for you to address my very reasonable questions.

No boasting before actually doing any of the little fancy testing proposed for "harm reduction." Nice try. You clearly don't believe it's worth a dollar of your own money, even to quiet people like myself. Send some samples in for endotoxin testing even if you poison the vials yourself to make a point.

 

[micro2000]

As a microbiologist, I wouldn't take that bet.

Spelling mistake: I would take that bet.

 

[micro2000]

And that is why you, personally, only use gear that has been through the process of Terminal Sterilization, I guess

My post was on error. Should have said "I would take that bet".

I've sent hundreds of our product for endotoxin testing over the years, all with high microbial counts, and 99% were below the detection limit of 0.5 EU. Only 1 ever came back with a level of 5 EU.

Only Gram negative organisms produce endotoxin, so if you do have a dirty process but it's mostly Gram positive organisms (staph, strep, micrococci, etc), you get no endotoxin result.

 

[narta]

My post was on error. Should have said "I would take that bet".

I've sent hundreds of our product for endotoxin testing over the years, all with high microbial counts, and 99% were below the detection limit of 0.5 EU. Only 1 ever came back with a level of 5 EU.

Only Gram negative organisms produce endotoxin, so if you do have a dirty process but it's mostly Gram positive organisms (staph, strep, micrococci, etc), you get no endotoxin result.

You know you are fking up @Ghoul's arguments and that will throw him in a posting spree of "science" that disapproves you...

P.S. @Ghoul you post some interesting stuff mate, but you choose to die on multiple hills that really don't matter. Homebrew sterility isn't perfect by all means but it's adequate. I have been personally injecting my concoctions for 2 decades with zero infections to speak of. So cut the bullshit posting and stick to things that you have a better understanding because you have ZERO understanding of homebrew and the resilience of the human body

 

[egruberman]

I've sent hundreds of our product for endotoxin testing over the years, all with high microbial counts, and 99% were below the detection limit of 0.5 EU. Only 1 ever came back with a level of 5 EU.

My question to @Ghoul earlier was based on my interpretation of USP General Chapter 85 which sets a limit on IM injection sub 2ml at 5EU/kg per hour. Practically speaking, that's simply 5EU/kg or for myself at 80kg, 400EU per injection. We can debate what that volume should be, but certainly something less than 2ml.

My question then is whether my interpretation is correct. If so, then we could choose an acceptable limit somewhere in that range and send a vial off for testing and some crow off to @Ghoul for eating. I'm happy to pay for the testing and the crow.

One thing I don't get is the "per hour" portion of the limit. It's clear that for a single injection that should be ignored, but is there no accumulated deleterious effect of endotoxin exposure? If that were the case, it seems that daily administration could reduce the exposure substantially vs. weekly administration.

This is a topic that would make for interesting discourse, but unfortunately it seems that rather than engage in civil discourse, some folks would rather ramble incessantly and cast insults like a monkey flinging shit.