Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[man-of-steel66]

back 30 years ago, we used to mail cash in the mail and often times wait upwards of 6 months to get this crumpled up package lmao , "if you didn't get burned" ( everyone got bit a time or two) until you found that "source" , but mostly it was a monthly excursion down from Northern Ca to Ensanada mexico or thereabouts, To many good ass memories/stories we went through... Bunch of jocks down in Mexico was a Beacon , we were in and out though lol backpacks stuffed to the brim with "Everything " lmao

Yup and wrap that cash in foil

 

[DECLAN]

I remember the first source I ever used, a US domestic source that you would put cash in a birthday card and mail it to him.

One guy I know still does this, being a butcher he sticks his cash in with smoked meat for his favorite source lol. The definition of being pals with your dealer.

 

[JG91]

Maybe we should get T-Shirts printed? lol.

Though the reality is that people that buy from Tracy and similar operations are a tiny, tiny share of the market in the grand scope. Most average Americans will duke it out with their insurance companies or else stretch their household budgets to use one of the various US copy cats out there like Ro, Hims, etc.

The US insurance industry is going to be the real fight for Lilly and the those who think they need to be on them for life. There is just no way the likes of Blue Cross and Blue Shield, UHC and all the others can make the math work long term for a lifetime of treatment for Zepbound or similar drugs. So the insurance industry and the private employers who fund them will continue to erect roadblocks in the form of prior authorizations or exclusions. Medicare and Medicaid already have hard exclusions for obesity meds.

What will be the final result of this? If I was a betting man I would wager obesity rates in the US won't budge all that much.

I just watched a news clip on YouTube about insurance vs GLP drugs.

Summary is that the USA gets charged 10x what other nations do for the same drug. And politicians on both sides are arguing that these drugs are important nationally. They actually have a legal option to force Lilly and Novo to license out their formulas and that option has been floated publicly.

 

[BuildABro]

I just watched a news clip on YouTube about insurance vs GLP drugs.

Summary is that the USA gets charged 10x what other nations do for the same drug. And politicians on both sides are arguing that these drugs are important nationally. They actually have a legal option to force Lilly and Novo to license out their formulas and that option has been floated publicly.

To make a long story short, pharma basically uses the US market as its principal mechanism to recoup the billions in development costs for the drugs.

The thing is, you are not just paying for Tirz’s development costs, but also the thousands of other drug candidates that fail, most before there is even a whiff of any type of clinical studies.

 

[Sam312xx]

You people are always looking for reassurance and guarantees. Anyone here have experience in Canada? This is meso. Have you any idea how many members we have?
Is it safe? What? Injecting dirt cheap gear(its actually cheaper than the dirt at the weed grows that litter Desert Hot Springs which is the shithole cesspool of a town making a strange kind of comeback from the tax revenue from all the legal drug dealers that now have a stranglehold on the Chamber of Commerce over there) and GH?

The shit is so cheap that its now acceptable for there to be floaters in the vials. Noobs are logging on for the very first time and learning that its a non issue. The 12 year old little girl brewing in the sweat shop must've been too exhausted to notice the filter blew out or too tired to care? Just refilter yourself at home. We're all friends here. You don't think that's fair? Go suck something off and buy your shit elsewhere. You're banned from ordering.

We're so lucky to be graced by the presence of these bottom feeders. Some wish there were 10 more just like them. Its strange to watch the new guys ask a question only to be insulted by the man or men pretending to be female when they are living off the dollars the new guys throw at them day after day.

Just wait until you get an order that isn't yours. You'll be given the name and address of the guy who actually placed the order that you received. If you don't commit the felony and ship where you are told you will be responsible to pay for that order. If you don't you will be black listed. Some members here, in an attempt to cyber suck off these wonderful human beings, will berate you for not doing so. How's that for safe?

That's just a quick look at what your in for. Oh...one last thing, Mr Bigshot....how much are you gonna drop? Why would you post that you "want to place a BIG order" if you didn't want someone to ask about your finances? Right? Or are you hoping you'll get a dm from this vendor drooling over the thought of a wealthy American with deep pockets who will give you the VIP treatment? They don't care about you or how well off your dad is. You're nobody to them or anyone, really?

I, on the other hand, am not that proud and I don't hate all Westerners like QSC does. When you want the Royal treatment, bring proof of your bank balance and the long list(it better be long) you brag about wanting to pick up and I'll take proper care of you. I'll help you find a home for that Bitcoin burning a hole in your pocket. We'll make a long weekend out of it. We won't be filling your safe with $6 vials of Testosterone. You've got $$ then act and spend like you. You've got this one life....you want to really live and enjoy the finer things or do you want $20 growth hormone kits? Get it together, big shot.

What you're describing is a basic case of supply and demand. The market dictates what people believe is in their best interest, and right now, it’s clear that buyers prefer cheap, high-quality gear that helps them save thousands of dollars, even if it comes with occasional issues like insults from QSC or the need to handle minor problems.

In a competitive market, customers are willing to overlook a level bad service or minor inconveniences if the product itself meets their needs at a fraction of the cost.

QSC can insult a member every now and then, but if people are still getting what they want, which is affordable gear that works, then they’re more likely to tolerate it rather than pay ridiculously higher prices for better customer service. People prioritize value and results over the "VIP treatment" you mentioned when it is comes to something that is price sensitive like gear.

 

[BuildABro]

What you're describing is a basic case of supply and demand. The market dictates what people believe is in their best interest, and right now, it’s clear that buyers prefer cheap, high-quality gear that helps them save thousands of dollars, even if it comes with occasional issues like insults from QSC or the need to handle minor problems.

In a competitive market, customers are willing to overlook a level bad service or minor inconveniences if the product itself meets their needs at a fraction of the cost.

QSC can insult a member every now and then, but if people are still getting what they want, which is affordable gear that works, then they’re more likely to tolerate it rather than pay ridiculously higher prices for better customer service. People prioritize value and results over the "VIP treatment" you mentioned when it is comes to something that is price sensitive like gear.

I really don't give a shit if Tracy or Bella, or Princess Toadstool, or whoever tells me to go fuck myself on the regular. I am not looking to make friends with them and have them over for beers. This is a transactional relationship. So long as the gear provided to me is legit and I receive what I order, I am all good on my end.

I have bought gear elsewhere of course, but its exceedingly difficult to compete with QSC on price. I come the fuck on, did you see the pricing on the 200 Primo? Tell me you can get that anywhere else.

 

[BuildABro]

back 30 years ago, we used to mail cash in the mail and often times wait upwards of 6 months to get this crumpled up package lmao , "if you didn't get burned" ( everyone got bit a time or two) until you found that "source" , but mostly it was a monthly excursion down from Northern Ca to Ensanada mexico or thereabouts, To many good ass memories/stories we went through... Bunch of jocks down in Mexico was a Beacon , we were in and out though lol backpacks stuffed to the brim with "Everything " lmao

I was on a cruise back in August on vacation and one of the stops was in Cozumel. Right outside the port there were pharmacies everywhere for all the tourists so I naturally had to go browse. Pretty much any type of non-exotic gear I could have wanted was right there on the shelf.

If the kids would not have been with me, I am pretty sure I would have dosed up some Tren and Test-C right there at the cruise terminal.

 

[Grey Spartan]

This is a transactional relationship. So long as the gear provided to me is legit and I receive what I order, I am all good on my end.

Make sure you take a video of the unboxing my brother. I made the mistake of stopping that after my 4th order. What could go wrong right? Then only 1 of the 7 kits showed up and was told it was delivered with that 1 kit. That is a $600 mistake I will not make again.

 

[BuildABro]

You never got your HEX?

Make sure you take a video of the unboxing my brother. I made the mistake of stopping that after my 4th order. What could go wrong right? Then only 1 of the 7 kits showed up and was told it was delivered with that 1 kit. That is a $600 mistake I will not make again.

 

[Sam312xx]

I was on a cruise back in August on vacation and one of the stops was in Cozumel. Right outside the port there were pharmacies everywhere for all the tourists so I naturally had to go browse. Pretty much any type of non-exotic gear I could have wanted was right there on the shelf.

If the kids would not have been with me, I am pretty sure I would have dosed up some Tren and Test-C right there at the cruise terminal.

It must be good.

We can legally buy cigarettes, alcohol or a Dairy Queen blizzard that has 140 grams of sugar but not steroids.

 

[Grey Spartan]

You never got your HEX?

No I did this was a different order.

 

[jdubzzz44]

Make sure you take a video of the unboxing my brother. I made the mistake of stopping that after my 4th order. What could go wrong right? Then only 1 of the 7 kits showed up and was told it was delivered with that 1 kit. That is a $600 mistake I will not make again.

The box and shipping weight would be way different for 1 kit vs 7 kits I don't see how you couldn't prove the mistake

 

[BP_6]

The box and shipping weight would be way different for 1 kit vs 7 kits I don't see how you couldn't prove the mistake

That is a great point. You can take a picture of the shipping label, and it should have the weight on it.

 

[Ears]

Any plans to add proviron tabs?

 

[Intrepid]

Any plans to add proviron tabs?

They said it's in the works. I had the same question

 

[egruberman]

I have bought gear elsewhere of course, but its exceedingly difficult to compete with QSC on price. I come the fuck on, did you see the pricing on the 200 Primo? Tell me you can get that anywhere else.

I've bought stuff from "retail" UGL vendors and the gear is ~5-10x the price and I can't say the customer service or delivery times are any different.

 

[BuildABro]

I've bought stuff from "retail" UGL vendors and the gear is ~5-10x the price and I can't say the customer service or delivery times are any different.

With China, some of the customer service thing is cultural. Their norms for business practice are just far different.

Though catering to the North American market many China based vendors try to placate us and take things a tad too far. All the pet names and terms of endearment in their communication can be hilarious. It sometimes feels like I am talking to an escort service in Vegas instead of ordering gear.

 

[SpaceForce]

The box and shipping weight would be way different for 1 kit vs 7 kits I don't see how you couldn't prove the mistake

I had the same thing happen from the first oil promo, but with 4 kits of Test missing.
I brought up the weight difference, but never got a response other than on his side it looks like it was sent, but that he's looking into it further. I even used my food scale to weigh kits and try to figure out what the weight should have been.
My last email went unanswered.

I've probably spent someone's salary just with QSC since he opened. Why would I try to scam 4 kits of test when I regularly order shit like Reta and Tirz that are way more money?

I record the opening of all my packs now.

I never had an issue with an order besides one international package that was lost. No fault of his of course, but I waited 60 days to report it just in case since it was around xmas. And when I reported it, I told him I would pay for the reship if the original shows up.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I had the same thing happen from the first oil promo, but with 4 kits of Test missing.
I brought up the weight difference, but never got a response other than on his side it looks like it was sent, but that he's looking into it further. I even used my food scale to weigh kits and try to figure out what the weight should have been.
My last email went unanswered.

I've probably spent someone's salary just with QSC since he opened. Why would I try to scam 4 kits of test when I regularly order shit like Reta and Tirz that are way more money?

I record the opening of all my packs now.

I never had an issue with an order besides one international package that was lost. No fault of his of course, but I waited 60 days to report it just in case since it was around xmas. And when I reported it, I told him I would pay for the reship if the original shows up.

This may be stupid, but how do you guys record opening it? One hand on the phone, one hand to open? Some of these boxes are tough cookies to crack. I’ll probably just get a go pro for my head.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

This may be stupid, but how do you guys record opening it? One hand on the phone, one hand to open? Some of these boxes are tough cookies to crack. I’ll probably just get a go pro for my head.

I know this seems like a joke but seriously? Like do you prop your phone against something pointed at yourself opening it like a Christmas gift and capturing your reaction for a long distance gf?