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[baxter0312]

Keep sniffing the solvents coming off your bathtub brews and you'll finish off the last few brain cells you've got left.

Reddit thinks anything not purchased in a pharmacy with a prescription might as well have come from a bathtub

 

[Ghoul]

Reddit thinks anything not purchased in a pharmacy with a prescription might as well have come from a bathtub

That makes a lot of sense. I'm a "Naps shill", a "Dragon Pharma shill", have 500 posts about using peptides and India pharma but because I can tell the difference between an industrial level UGL with some degree of standards and Billy Joe Bob supplying the local gym with kitchen brewed crap that's contaminated with whatever he made for dinner the night before I think anything not on prescrip is bathtub gear.

Stop giving retards a bad name.

 

[UncleBuns]

last HGH promo i think was 880 for 2400iu's free ship if i believe id have to go back and look march-april in this thread. thats .36/iu many other vendors lowering prices weekly slowly. i dont think stocking ip past 4-6 months is worth it. i do think itll still be a good deal. just not "mind blowing" like we're seeing with Tirz getting blown out at like $280 with free ship on servers for 30mg kits. shit was twice that price last month

Price of GH may squeeze down a little. The prices now are crazy low though. It is a killer deal in my mind. I like to stay well stocked in case a vendor goes away, lack of availability, etc. If in 6 months it's a penny less an iu I'm not sweating that.

I kind of sound like a shill right now, but I'm just blown away at the cost of GH now. One thing QSC does well is generic GH.

 

[jj89]

last HGH promo i think was 880 for 2400iu's free ship if i believe id have to go back and look march-april in this thread. thats .36/iu many other vendors lowering prices weekly slowly. i dont think stocking ip past 4-6 months is worth it. i do think itll still be a good deal. just not "mind blowing" like we're seeing with Tirz getting blown out at like $280 with free ship on servers for 30mg kits. shit was twice that price last month

Where are you seeing tirz for 280 for 30mg kits, was that a QSC promo?

 

[Ghoul]

Where are you seeing tirz for 280 for 30mg kits, was that a QSC promo?

I think he meant the 30mg kit for $340 gb last month.

Mine arrives tomorrow and not a minute too soon, the "real thing" has been totally unavailable for months.

 

[Big_bowl0tren]

Where are you seeing tirz for 280 for 30mg kits, was that a QSC promo?

30mg actually $260 currently another source on the forum.

 

[FastBunny]

That makes a lot of sense. I'm a "Naps shill", a "Dragon Pharma shill", have 500 posts about using peptides and India pharma but because I can tell the difference between an industrial level UGL with some degree of standards and Billy Joe Bob supplying the local gym with kitchen brewed crap that's contaminated with whatever he made for dinner the night before I think anything not on prescrip is bathtub gear.

Stop giving retards a bad name.

How can you tell? A hormone powder is a hormone powder tested at x percent purity. As long as they are cleaning equipment and brewing correctly. How would you tell? I don’t think if you were to blindly inject stans gear and “pharma” gear you would be able to tell the difference.

 

[baxter0312]

That makes a lot of sense. I'm a "Naps shill", a "Dragon Pharma shill", have 500 posts about using peptides and India pharma but because I can tell the difference between an industrial level UGL with some degree of standards and Billy Joe Bob supplying the local gym with kitchen brewed crap that's contaminated with whatever he made for dinner the night before I think anything not on prescrip is bathtub gear.

Stop giving retards a bad name.

Calm down Mr reddit. I defended your clown ass when you got banned if you had already forgotten.

 

[baxter0312]

@Ghoul

I think you're a knowledgeable dude, but you have a habit of misinterpreting what people say just so you can go off on a rant about something.

 

[Ghoul]

How can you tell? A hormone powder is a hormone powder tested at x percent purity. As long as they are cleaning equipment and brewing correctly. How would you tell? I don’t think if you were to blindly inject stans gear and “pharma” gear you would be able to tell the difference.

Is it possible for a solo home brewer to have near commercial lab standards and put out consistently good gear? It's possible. There's a Scottish lab on Mesa that appears to be just that. I would guess he's professionally trained or the most obsessed ameteur I've ever seen. So much respect to guys who operate like him.

But are sloppy shortcuts and disastrous screwups more likely from a guy working by himself? Yes.

Is having no QA whatsoever more likely from the guy that sells to a dozen people at the gym or a Pharmaqo or Dragon selling gear through 40 dealers to thousands of customers with massive exposure and a reputation that will go up in flames all over the internet from one bad move?

The big brands have a lot of money on the line, and what are the odds that they'd get away with poor quality gear with thousands of eyes on them? Word would get out very quickly with that much exposure. Contrary to popular belief not every one of their customers is a fool, and plenty post blind tests online,

Meanwhile a couple of guys suddenly find themselves inflamed for a few days at the local gym no one's gonna hear about it.

So while it's not absolute, odds are greater that gear made in miniscule batches is going to be bad than industrial level production. Scale allows for more employees, better equipment, and the money attached to the reputation of an often decade+ brand name carefully built with major marketing expenses is a huge motivator to make sure things are done correctly.

Look at the Axle labs shitshow going on right now. So he shuts down and comes back as Wheel Bearing Labs or whatever, no big expense, no big loss, But a Pharmaqo or Dragon or Ultima? That would be a huge hole in someone's pocket, and it'd take years to rebuild, so someone is going to make damn sure that operation is running properly.

Nothing's guaranteed in either case of course. All you can do is play the odds, but common sense tells you where the bigger risk of amateur mistakes is.

 

[baxter0312]

Is it possible for a solo home brewer to have near commercial lab standards and put out consistently good gear? It's possible. There's a Scottish lab on Mesa that appears to be just that. I would guess he's professionally trained or the most obsessed ameteur I've ever seen. So much respect to guys who operate like him.

But are sloppy shortcuts and disastrous screwups more likely from a guy working by himself? Yes.

Is having no QA whatsoever more likely from the guy that sells to a dozen people at the gym or a Pharmaqo or Dragon selling gear through 40 dealers to thousands of customers with massive exposure and a reputation that will go up in flames all over the internet from one bad move?

The big brands have a lot of money on the line, and what are the odds that they'd get away with poor quality gear with thousands of eyes on them? Word would get out very quickly with that much exposure. Contrary to popular belief not every one of their customers is a fool, and plenty post blind tests online,

Meanwhile a couple of guys suddenly find themselves inflamed for a few days at the local gym no one's gonna hear about it.

So while it's not absolute, odds are greater that gear made in miniscule batches is going to be bad than industrial level production. Scale allows for more employees, better equipment, and the money attached to the reputation of an often decade+ brand name carefully built with major marketing expenses is a huge motivator to make sure things are done correctly.

Look at the Axle labs shitshow going on right now. So he shuts down and comes back as Wheel Bearing Labs or whatever, no big expense, no big loss, But a Pharmaqo or Dragon or Ultima? That would be a huge hole in someone's pocket, and it'd take years to rebuild, so someone is going to make damn sure that operation is running properly.

Nothing's guaranteed in either case of course. All you can do is play the odds, but common sense tells you where the bigger risk of amateur mistakes is.

You were right on cue and went off on a rant not answering his question

 

[bighunanballs]

Where are you seeing tirz for 280 for 30mg kits, was that a QSC promo?

There's probably a hundred discord servers doing group buys this is just one of them

 

[bighunanballs]

Price of GH may squeeze down a little. The prices now are crazy low though. It is a killer deal in my mind. I like to stay well stocked in case a vendor goes away, lack of availability, etc. If in 6 months it's a penny less an iu I'm not sweating that.

I kind of sound like a shill right now, but I'm just blown away at the cost of GH now. One thing QSC does well is generic GH.

I think it will be more than that. But you're right If it was only like 1-5c per IU. @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals for sure has the best HGH at the best price point right now no doubt!

 

[Ghoul]

You were right on cue and went off on a rant not answering his question

Mfcker caught me right as the Modafinil started peaking

 

[Deimosx]

A decade ago during an FAA physical for my helicopter pilot license the tech doing an abdominal ultrasound mentioned incidentally I had a fatty liver. He said it was common and not to worry about it. I didn't pursue it, and never found out what "grade" it was. I wasn't very diligent about my health then.

So flash forward 8 years, and I remember it and ask to have it checked out. At that point I had been on Sema for a couple years and I was formally diagnosed with Grade 1 (the lowest) level NAFLD, I have no idea if it was worse and improved on Sema first, but if nothing else the weight loss may have helped, though TRT was likely to have worsened it.

Tirz was just being researched as a treatment for fatty liver, the GIP agonist not present in Sema (GLP only) was believed to be responsible for significant liver fat reduction in early experiments.

8 months after switching, I had another ultrasound and my liver was at Grade 0, no fatty liver disease. I did not lose any more weight on Tirz, so it wasn't that. No diet changes either. I felt more appetite suppression. on Sema 2.4mg than Tirz 15mg in fact.

Now it looks like Reta clears liver fat even faster and to a lower level.

Thanks for the information dude, going to put my sister on some tirz. She has a NA fatty liver too

 

[vizzorz]

i think were gonna see HGH start dropping slowly over the next few months (not fast but steady). i track prices like a hawk across many vendors. theyre trying to compete and i think the competition in the near future will start to show that.

That is interesting to note that the production costs costs more. so would you say 24iu kits are the optimum dosing for best pricing? i assume youre profit margins gotta be small on the 360iu kits hopefully qty makes up something

Is QSC the first doing 360 kits? I haven’t seen any other vendors doing higher than 24 atm. I’d love higher IU kits as it makes it less risky with seizures in aus getting more hgh in less vials

 

[AlexDavis43]

How can you tell? A hormone powder is a hormone powder tested at x percent purity. As long as they are cleaning equipment and brewing correctly. How would you tell? I don’t think if you were to blindly inject stans gear and “pharma” gear you would be able to tell the difference.

Don't mention this to the exclusively pharma GH crowd. They swear they can blindly tell the difference between pharma and UGL with 100% accuracy and specificity.

Some guys also swear they can tell the difference between mast and primo by feelz. We all get weird chips on our shoulders from time to time. Not judging.

 

[DECLAN]

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Don't mention this to the exclusively pharma GH crowd. They swear they can blindly tell the difference between pharma and UGL with 100% accuracy and specificity.

Some guys also swear they can tell the difference between mast and primo by feelz. We all get weird chips on our shoulders from time to time. Not judging.

For gh though it is apparently different especially the side effects. So many youtube personalities and pros have already mentioned this even doctors as well, nothing concrete but some attribute it to the manitol or some diuretic in Serostim which is absent in chinese generics.

This I know for a fact though, my home-brew and some of the pictures posted by members who brew here don’t have floaters and look cleaner than QSC’s finished oil. Even with our gheto labels lmao.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

The 360IU GB offer that will come on Monday will be a unique offer, with the advantages of free shipping, guaranteed delivery, testing costs reimbursed, that no one will manage to meet, and if they dare, they had better sell several thousands of kits, with a pass rate of +99%, because if they fuck up they better have "solid kidneys" as the French say or they are looking at a business at a loss, or potentially bankruptcy, because competing with QSC on the GH is not a sustainable business strategy, and I might bet my left nut on this.

Youre saying that for the 36iu kits, you will reimburse any testing of the batch by us? Dimer included, variance testing, etc.

Is there a guarenteed purity we recieved a refund?

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

Don't mention this to the exclusively pharma GH crowd. They swear they can blindly tell the difference between pharma and UGL with 100% accuracy and specificity.

Some guys also swear they can tell the difference between mast and primo by feelz. We all get weird chips on our shoulders from time to time. Not judging.

There is undeniably a different in Pharma HGH and generic.

Serostim the average patient is instructed to pin 16iu/day from the start. Try doing that with UGL HGH.