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Almost 6 hours bro, usually I get replied very fast. I have placed many many orders. I am wondering if there is a change in the WhatsApp communication number
There are a lot of promotions going on right now. that means lots of new orders and a longer waiting time. 5 hours is not a long time.
 
This is why I think people are already satisfied with the current state of testing, QSC announces an oil promotion and customers are already opening their wallets again without hesitation.

Unless you can provide a proof of imminent danger from these ugl products, your campaign will not find traction around here.

@readalot
 
This is why I think people are already satisfied with the current state of testing, QSC announces an oil promotion and customers are already opening their wallets again without hesitation.

Unless you can provide a proof of imminent danger from these ugl products, your campaign will not find traction around here.

@readalot
i think theres a way to balance both sides of the equation. we can cheer on and support the championing of more testing while still trying to force open competition amongst UGLs to get the best prices for the best quality. the members advocating against the notion of more testing or more quality while licking sources balls is pretty pathetic. I actually do like @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals too, he's put quite a bit of effort into testing even though it simply makes business sense to do so. i bet if the board found reason enough to force other variations of tests he would ablige as well simply from a monetary standpoint to make more sales (free market is a helluva thing), its one thing to have a positive outlook for a source and refer them as a quality place to shop. but to blindly take a bullet for these chinese sources and bash anyone rallying for more testing and QAQC is nauseating.
 
@readal
This is why I think people are already satisfied with the current state of testing, QSC announces an oil promotion and customers are already opening their wallets again without hesitation.

Unless you can provide a proof of imminent danger from these ugl products, your campaign will not find traction around here.

@readalot
I agree. I still think people should still test stuff 100%.

The constant nagging at sources won't accomplish anything. It's just being a nuisance.

I think his history of being banned in other forums also makes me think there is a different motive than simply harm reduction.

I'm not gonna get into it anymore over it. Just honestly have better things to do.


Like figure out what I want for dinner
 
@readal

I agree. I still think people should still test stuff 100%.

The constant nagging at sources won't accomplish anything. It's just being a nuisance.

I think his history of being banned in other forums also makes me think there is a different motive than simply harm reduction.

I'm not gonna get into it anymore over it. Just honestly have better things to do.


Like figure out what I want for dinner
it can work. lord knows ive nagged Tracy enough about their fills to get them to attempt to fill to 10ml now lol. also id rather see nagging posts for enhanced testing or tightening up QAQC vs some of these fucking posts asking about cap colors to discern what they ordered or "why isnt QSC responding" after emailing them 30 mins ago.
 
i think theres a way to balance both sides of the equation. we can cheer on and support the championing of more testing while still trying to force open competition amongst UGLs to get the best prices for the best quality. the members advocating against the notion of more testing or more quality while licking sources balls is pretty pathetic. its one thing to have a positive outlook for a source and refer them as a quality place to shop. but to blindly take a bullet for these chinese sources and bash anyone rallying for more testing and QAQC is nauseating.
The problem is people love these drug dealers and promote them like they have a stake in their business, now that’s nauseating.

However, when there is no immediate danger visible, the public doesn’t care. Just look at this, readlot keeps asking for more testing and Tracy answers back with a promo, what does the members do? Buy more oils lol.

I am just an observer because I don’t use ugl oils, but I am all for harm reduction and the well being of my fellow members. However, at least let’s get our bullets in a row before firing our guns, if you know what I mean.
 
The problem is people love these drug dealers and promote them like they have a stake in their business, now that’s nauseating.
ya its not like these guys are their long time high school buddies selling weed and acid. i can see sticking up for your old high school buddy who sells you your self prescribed "meds" but that mentality just shouldnt exist with these chinese sources. if their stuff harmed someone they wouldnt give 2 shits. if your old high school buddy sold you fent laced benzos and you died, he in fact would prob be devastated and actually mourn your passing lol.


However, at least let’s get our bullets in a row before firing our guns, if you know what I mean.
thats the trick, we need to show that there is a need for this testing, not just "theoretically" a need exists because pharma is brewed under xxx conditions in said GMP facility.

I personally have had a hospitalization and surgical procedure done in my glute from a massive infection incurred by UGL well over a decade ago. this was US domestic UGL, who the hell knows how it was brewed. but ive heard countless stories of hospitalization from infection on UGL oils. im sure there are many reasons why these stories never make their way to these boards. this is just anecdotal though, and without solid proof this is all just vaporware for theorizing added expenditures to a source that sees no benefit to this type of testing.
 
ya its not like these guys are their long time high school buddies selling weed and acid. i can see sticking up for your old high school buddy who sells you your self prescribed "meds" but that mentality just shouldnt exist with these chinese sources. if their stuff harmed someone they wouldnt give 2 shits. if your old high school buddy sold you fent laced benzos and you died, he in fact would prob be devastated and actually mourn your passing lol.



thats the trick, we need to show that there is a need for this testing, not just "theoretically" a need exists because pharma is brewed under xxx conditions in said GMP facility.

I personally have had a hospitalization and surgical procedure done in my glute from a massive infection incurred by UGL well over a decade ago. this was US domestic UGL, who the hell knows how it was brewed. but ive heard countless stories of hospitalization from infection on UGL oils. im sure there are many reasons why these stories never make their way to these boards. this is just anecdotal though, and without solid proof this is all just vaporware for theorizing added expenditures to a source that sees no benefit to this type of testing.
Keep preaching, however, in my opinion the only way these sources just like how testing became a standard practice now, the main incentive for these vendors is still money. If they can attract more customers or retain what they have now, then they will heed to such calls.

The sure fire way to ensure they at least try to do more testing is if consumers stop buying, that’s it full stop go trt until they one of these vendors test everything customers want, I mean the majority. Until then good luck.
 
it can work. lord knows ive nagged Tracy enough about their fills to get them to attempt to fill to 10ml now lol. also id rather see nagging posts for enhanced testing or tightening up QAQC vs some of these fucking posts asking about cap colors to discern what they ordered or "why isnt QSC responding" after emailing them 30 mins ago.
That's fine but there is a clear problem that you showed publicly.

He has no evidence, the testing hasn't resulted yet either.

It's not like "see, this source has this shit testing"

Now he has money in it and we will see what it shows
 
if their stuff harmed someone they wouldnt give 2 shits.

This is where you're mistaken. If their stuff harmed someone, it would harm their business. It is not hard nor particularly costly to follow basic sterility procedures and ship sterile gear, especially at the scale at which they're operating.

That scale also represents a tremendous loss of business if it could be proven that they were responsible for something so onerous.

In that sense, I have more faith in QSC than I do for my high school drug dealer. That guy was a fucking idiot, and as a business, I would expect QSC to act in a coldly rational way. If the incentives are aligned, and they seem to be, then I know where my money is going to go.

My problem with @readalot aside from being a whiny twat is that he has made zero effort to articulate the risk that might exist nor which particular tests might be used to mitigate that risk. It's a bugaboo, and I for one, don't give a shit, not because I don't care about harm reduction, but because Tracy made a point. There are so many touch points along the way between manufacture and injection that the testing would be no guarantee.
 
This is where you're mistaken. If their stuff harmed someone, it would harm their business. It is not hard nor particularly costly to follow basic sterility procedures and ship sterile gear, especially at the scale at which they're operating.

That scale also represents a tremendous loss of business if it could be proven that they were responsible for something so onerous.

In that sense, I have more faith in QSC than I do for my high school drug dealer. That guy was a fucking idiot, and as a business, I would expect QSC to act in a coldly rational way. If the incentives are aligned, and they seem to be, then I know where my money is going to go.

My problem with @readalot aside from being a whiny twat is that he has made zero effort to articulate the risk that might exist nor which particular tests might be used to mitigate that risk. It's a bugaboo, and I for one, don't give a shit, not because I don't care about harm reduction, but because Tracy made a point. There are so many touch points along the way between manufacture and injection that the testing would be no guarantee.
That's Tracy though. Noting is a guarantee. Promises, Test results, cap colors, response times, shipping times, nothing is a guarantee. The only thing left is for a guarantee not to be a guarantee. :D
 
My problem with @readalot aside from being a whiny twat is that he has made zero effort to articulate the risk that might exist nor which particular tests might be used to mitigate that risk. It's a bugaboo, and I for one, don't give a shit, not because I don't care about harm reduction, There are so many touch points along the way between manufacture and injection that the testing would be no guarantee.

The point he is talking about is to ensure serility at production.

If you wipe your ass, not wash your hands singing "happy birthday" and go inject a bit of your own poo bacteria in you, it's your doing and your problem.
But that is your responsibility, not QSC's.
Your response to this epitomises the thinking of the vast majority of Qsc's customers.
I agree with UncleBuns that Readalot should focus his efforts somewhere else, as the discourse would just be in vain, here.
 
@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
Can you please spread this info in your team. Because some gear is already sold.

The sales of oils are in general fast, our stocks are high, but if it happens that a product sells out during the promo, you can either switch to other item, get it credited, or wait for new batch to be produced (it can take up to 7-14 days), no refund options, and no complaints allowed.
 
So I guess whatsapp just conveniently banned my device/number right after messaging QSC with two orders.

Weird timing.

So if that happens to anyone just request a review.
Got a reply back after requesting.
“We accidentally banned your account for violation of policy/terms”

weird it said accidentally.
I found out I was getting banned because I had the feature to be added to groups by others. I was getting added to spam groups and they would shut down my account. Turned it off and hasn’t happened again
 
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