QINGDAO SIGMA CHEMICALS NEEDS TO BE BANNED!

No issues for me with QSC
They are literally DOXING people who expose their bs


Straight up, they've scammed way too many people by now

literally every 5th person even in their official thread has an issue with qsc sending bunk stuff / not sending stuff at all / stuck being stuck at customs etc and qsc straight up telling them to go fucking kill themselves.

They also told me straight up they dont give a fuck my order is stuck at customs and to go fuck myself

a quick google search also prompts hundreds of results of qsc scamming people, but because they're a sponsor this site refuses to ban them despite many members straight up getting scammed

just some examples

Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co. Toremifene Raws - Janoshik Test



View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Peptides/comments/nkxfc0/do_not_purchase_from_qingdao_sigma_chemical_co_ltd/


they also obviously as a massive company selling stuff for 30% of the price of others, have many shills which work for them and defend them in every thread

you can see the exact same faces pop up in these threads like this one


@Cridi887 always there to defend them


Also the test i currently received from them is obviously fake, to which when they got called out on the email, they stopped responding

They also commonly tell people straight up to " fuck off ", " go kill themselves " etc, the only company ive ever seen anywhere telling people to just get scammed, too bad, etc

they also said " All our products are tested by HPLC, we never had this kind of issues ever, if it happened of course it's gonna be full refund. " over here Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co. Toremifene Raws - Janoshik Test yet when the items really tested as fake they refused to provide the refund, and ofcourse as always went on the course to insult the people, threaten with a dox etc as they always do


i have never seen in my life such a company where they straight up tell people to go fuck themselves, even after they scammed them

this isnt a 1 off for them its been going on since the beginning but because theyre so cheap most people just choose to continue using them

all in all they need to be banned from the site because the amount of people they HAVE scammed, ARE scamming and will continue to scamm is too high

literally even in the last page of their thread there is a guy that paid 33 days ago and still hasnt even received the tracking info / they also randomly stop replying to emails all the time yet reply if you dm them from another email


Also the picture of the " girl " and the name " tracy " as all these chinese companies do is always fake, some random image of a random girl to make them seem more tame and approachable as we're men, you're talking to some 300 pound resentful man.


QSC needs to be banned.

No issues for me
 
What I can't understand is just because one or two or twenty vials might have tested under the advertised volume, how does that translate to the assumption that every single vial was short and QSC is somehow a bunch of scammers?
Do you think they’re making this stuff in batches of one or two or twenty vials at a time? It’s not made to order, dude, it’s made in massive quantities at a time. When he gets new kits in he will occasionally tell everyone how many are available. If he announces a new batch of X and says there are 450 kits available that’s 4,500 vials. A huge under dose of one indicates that something went wrong. Unless you believe the one customer who sent in for testing just happened to get the 1/4500 vials that was under filled, in which case you can tell yourself any number of other comforting stories that will ease your mind. But for other people who can assess the odds a bad test from a bulk producer is a troubling sign.
 
I’m still trying to sift through the bullshit around here. I’ve done over 20k worth of orders with them and I’ve never had a problem that hasn’t been dealt with. I had a serious issue with their var tabs as they cam back 1/3 of their claim but this was after they came out and said their pull guy was stealing from them. He gave me credit for 2/3 of the order which I thought was fair. Everything else that I’ve tested has been as advertised.
 
Do you think they’re making this stuff in batches of one or two or twenty vials at a time? It’s not made to order, dude, it’s made in massive quantities at a time. When he gets new kits in he will occasionally tell everyone how many are available. If he announces a new batch of X and says there are 450 kits available that’s 4,500 vials. A huge under dose of one indicates that something went wrong. Unless you believe the one customer who sent in for testing just happened to get the 1/4500 vials that was under filled, in which case you can tell yourself any number of other comforting stories that will ease your mind. But for other people who can assess the odds a bad test from a bulk producer is a troubling sign.
Do you think they have one machine with one nozzle filling all those vials? Manufacturing processes have variances, and one machine with one or two obstructed nozzles out of 50 can cause shortages but in a batch of tens of thousands filled by multiple machines that's a small number, yet just like the chances of winning the lottery there's a chance that one of the shorted vials will be the one sent for testing. Walk through the aisles at your local liquor store and observe how many bottles of the same product have different fill levels.
 
I’m still trying to sift through the bullshit around here. I’ve done over 20k worth of orders with them and I’ve never had a problem that hasn’t been dealt with. I had a serious issue with their var tabs as they cam back 1/3 of their claim but this was after they came out and said their pull guy was stealing from them. He gave me credit for 2/3 of the order which I thought was fair. Everything else that I’ve tested has been as advertised.
Really, over 20k? Holy shit bro!
 
Do you think they have one machine with one nozzle filling all those vials? Manufacturing processes have variances, and one machine with one or two obstructed nozzles out of 50 can cause shortages but in a batch of tens of thousands filled by multiple machines that's a small number, yet just like the chances of winning the lottery there's a chance that one of the shorted vials will be the one sent for testing. Walk through the aisles at your local liquor store and observe how many bottles of the same product have different fill levels.
That’s not at all an unfair argument. Now ask yourself why you, a total rando, had to make it instead of the rep of the company in question. Notice how you and I are having a polite discussion about this? How much is that costing either of us? $0, right? So why can’t the public face of the company simply say what you just did?

The problem isn’t with the bad test result. That is bound to happen in this business. But how a company chooses to handle the situation is instructive. How members of the community react is as well. This whole thing was mishandled and it revealed a lot of interesting things about both the company and some of the members here.
 
I did several orders with them and I never had a problem.
The last order tho, it was made and payed 5 days ago and I haven't received info or tracking.
I will keep you updated.
 
Any other complaint or mad people?
Sure add me to that list. Your package was declared lost by usps, you wouldn’t help, wouldn’t clearly explain your reship policy, never sent me “page 502” and left me out to dry with feeding lies to alibaba trade assurance. I was polite throughout.

Fortunately I paid with a credit card so the bank has my back since you wouldn’t reship.
 
That’s not at all an unfair argument. Now ask yourself why you, a total rando, had to make it instead of the rep of the company in question. Notice how you and I are having a polite discussion about this? How much is that costing either of us? $0, right? So why can’t the public face of the company simply say what you just did?

The problem isn’t with the bad test result. That is bound to happen in this business. But how a company chooses to handle the situation is instructive. How members of the community react is as well. This whole thing was mishandled and it revealed a lot of interesting things about both the company and some of the members here.
I agree completely.

Personally if I were QSC I'd hire an American to be the public face of their company in places like this. I'm sure the language and cultural differences are challenging enough for them, but I'm also guessing that the rep has a lot of BS thrown at them every day and unfortunately when you deal with that much crap all the time you can easily react badly to legit problems (I see it every day in my work, enough people piss you off one day and next thing you know you've been rude to someone you have no issues with for no reason).
 
I did several orders with them and I never had a problem.
The last order tho, it was made and payed 5 days ago and I haven't received info or tracking.
I will keep you updated.
I have just received the tracking, so everything fine for me as always I would say.
I will update you when I receive the package.
But it seems everything ok...
 
Sad constantly seeing threads like this with the same source. It’s a never ending battle with all fake accounts and members on the QSC payroll.

I’ve been happy with the change of Meso this past year, except for the issue that constantly occurs with the same source. I miss the old guards for matters like this. This never would have stood in the past.
100% agreed
 
Don t dare complain about you package being 3 months pass do or you’ll no longer be Qsc client. This is a tactic to keep clients from publicly airing any issues if you do there will be NO SOUP FOR YOU
 
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