Hello everyone, brand new member here. I've been running a lot of peps for a bit as well as HGH, and I'm considering the next step up. I was looking into 200 test while running HCG so my balls don't shut down, and finasteride to avoid any balding. A 12 week cycle with PCT after, no AI as I think the dose is too low to consider one. Any insight into this? Has anyone done anything similar?
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Question About Running 200 Test
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BALLISTIC
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How old are you? Let's start here...
eery
Member
200mg test is basically just TRT.
Dont waste your time doing cycles if you are going to use steroids.
Commit or stay natural.
What are your goals longterm and short term?
For a first cycle i'd suggest starting at 300-400mg and seeing how you respond and potentially titrate up over 16-30 weeks.
Dont waste your time doing cycles if you are going to use steroids.
Commit or stay natural.
What are your goals longterm and short term?
For a first cycle i'd suggest starting at 300-400mg and seeing how you respond and potentially titrate up over 16-30 weeks.
A 12-week cycle is too short to build significant muscle mass on 200mg of testosterone. A longer cycle and possibly a higher dose would be required. Personally, I’d avoid finasteride as it can trigger post-finasteride syndrome. If you’re lean enough, you should be fine without AI on 200mg but I recommend always having AI and tamoxifen on hand.
wells14
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You're a teenager aren't you?
AllbrandNew
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Probably a kid. No intro either, as is per tradition.
Only blood work can tell you that. 200 test could mean a low or normal E2 or some crazy high levels, it's different for everyone but being lean does help regardless of response.
Only blood work can tell you that. 200 test could mean a low or normal E2 or some crazy high levels, it's different for everyone but being lean does help regardless of response.
You’re right about blood work. That’s why I used “should” and recommended having everything on hand.
BALLISTIC
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Chicken Joe
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Finasteride is going to be unnecessary unless you're horribly genetically unlucky. Use topical if you're that worried though. Lots of people are going to say 200mg test is pointless but I don't necessarily agree. When I started using test, I ran 175mg/week and gained about 15lbs of solid muscle in 3 months. My diet and training are pretty dialed in and I may have good genetics. 200mg isn't going to blow you up into a bodybuilder in 12weeks, but it is a good place to start and see how your body responds. There is nothing wrong with starting slow and being cautious. Wouldn't bother with a PCT for that though, just stay on TRT and decide if you want to run a real cycle before doing a PCT.
19, 20 in a few months.
19, 20 in a few months, I honestly didnt see the intro section. New to forums and such, people my generation use much dumber websites lmao.
Honestly was looking to do 200, check labs, titrate up to 300 range. I want to do this smart, not just yolo it. My logic was even though 200 mg test is higher TRT range, it would still increase the amount of free test you have.
Thank you for the advice, insightful. I don't know why everyone on meso has big dawg syndrome lmao. Your goals and application is very similar to mine, and 15lbs in 3 months is respectable. Not looking to get into bodybuilding regardless, I'm at 225 bench and I've been lifting natty 2 years on and off.
Your PCT suggestion confuses me a bit, since PCT is dirt cheap is there any downside to running it? Same with finasteride.
I respect your views, but even if I was a kid 14-15 (I'm 19, not too far off), these replies would just make me pin 400 test and hope for the best lmao. If someone's looking for personal experience from experienced members, you should be honored that they're not following their favorite tiktok mongoloid.
Yup, planning on bloodwork. When do you suggest I get it done? 3-4 weeks into cycle?
SmallTitsIRL
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You should either commit to it or stay natural. Running cycle and going off isn't the smartest thing in my opinion.
You'd be better off running 200 test long term than coming off.
Get bloodwork before starting.
Start @ 200mg
Get bloodwork at week 6-8
Remember food and training are the major contributors to growth.
Increase test by 20-30% once progress stalls or you are not getting bigger, but fatter.
Repeat over 52 weeks, you'll be bigger than most guys at the gym while staying healthy
BALLISTIC
Member
So because of a comment, you’d just jump?no research? That’s not discernment, that’s impulse. That mindset is immature, and it’s how people get hurt.
Comments here are not directives. Members will share what they find relevant, but what you receive will always be a mix of opinion and anecdotal experience. It’s on you to research and apply information to your own circumstances.
If comments alone can influence you negatively, you’re in the wrong place.
There are gentlemen here willing to help, myself included, but the quality of help you receive will be proportional to the quality of your questions, your preparation, and your maturity.
If comments sway you without critical thought, you’re not being guided, you’re being misled.
I’ve been honored before, but never over an internet discussion. I’m not trying to be a jackass, but I take no pride in enabling someone who isn’t prepared for the potential consequences of careless, haphazard risk taking.
Now with that said what reasonable articulate questions do you actually have? Things that can be guided and discussed for your knowledge base.
wells14
Member
It's unlikely he's actually 19. All the looksmaxers say they're 19 to avoid being banned on here. They instruct each other to do this on their forum lmao. Vast majority of users over there are 12-17.
BALLISTIC
Member
Didn't know this, noted for next time. TY
