Rant: UGL made Clen is all garbage!

[trtbuilder]

If I wasn't scared of getting addicted I'd love to try some genuine meth as a preworkout

 

[tbda]

If I wasn't scared of getting addicted I'd love to try some genuine meth as a preworkout

You would never make it to the gym, but you'd have a trunk full of copper and empty cans

 

[trtbuilder]

You would never make it to the gym, but you'd have a trunk full of copper and empty cans

hahaha

 

[BrokenOne]

T3 is an even bigger hazard. I've used Alpha because I thought they had some pharma magic going on based on my experience with their clen. $40 for 30.

Turned out to be relabeled Evolve Biolabs, another India generic pharma, that's 10¢ a tab lol.

If memory serves me right, in the mid 2000's there was an Australian Pro (or on track to turn Pro) that got a bad dosed T3 UGL product and it messed him up bad.

I remember making up a batch of clen in early 2000's in 6ltrs of liquid. After bottling, for whatever brain dead reason, I wiped my finger around a few inches of the empty pot and tasted it..... Ended up outside throwing up blood and dead sure I had a mild heart attack! Ended up throwing out most of it after that.

 

[Rebelscum81]

Just get some phentermine. Pharma grade Meth

 

[clearheaded]

you can get medical grade meth.. desoxyn or something just like any other ADD meds. I mean wonder why america has a drug problem 10% of kids are on ADD meds/speed..

 

[Ghoul]

you can get medical grade meth.. desoxyn or something just like any other ADD meds. I mean wonder why america has a drug problem 10% of kids are on ADD meds/speed..

That's why there's an Adderall shortage. Pharma companies aren't interested in making a generic, low profit drug and end up being sued into oblivion in a few years when they're blamed for the "epidemic" of amphetamine addiction, just like the opioid crisis.

The shortage got me to switch from Adderall to Modafinil. Not addictive for starters. Not as intense but so much better in a million other ways.

Amphetamines borrow energy from the future, Moda doesn't do that.

It's "Designer caffeine".

 

[sbtr12]

That's why there's an Adderall shortage. Pharma companies aren't interested in making a generic, low profit drug and end up being sued into oblivion in a few years when they're blamed for the "epidemic" of amphetamine addiction, just like the opioid crisis.

The shortage got me to switch from Adderall to Modafinil. Not addictive for starters. Not as intense but so much better in a million other ways.

Amphetamines borrow energy from the future, Moda doesn't do that.

It's "Designer caffeine".

Interesting take.
On the clen, how long do you run your cycles and do you stay at or below 80?

I don't take clen often but when I do, my sweet spot is 40 mcg. If I go above that I get the shakes a lot and cotton mouth.

 

[Ghoul]

Interesting take.
On the clen, how long do you run your cycles and do you stay at or below 80?

I don't take clen often but when I do, my sweet spot is 40 mcg. If I go above that I get the shakes a lot and cotton mouth.

I go 3 weeks on 1 off as that's all it takes for me to reset. I haven't seen any evidence 160mg or lower causes any issues, but stay at 80mg or below as a safety margin, which was especially important when I used UGL since I know some of the tabs were "hot" and it was way more than 80. Now with pharma it's completely consistent, but I still like keeping the safety margin. Tracking my calorie intake and weight, the 40-60-80 averages out to the equivalent of about 400-450 extra calories burned a day for me.

 

[smartgear]

Getting mcg accuracy is far beyond the capabilities of small UGLs and even larger ones unless they're a pharma facility. It's a science to itself requiring careful selection of excipients, grinding them to specific particle sizes, and extensive monitoring and testing. I'm not sure about the Chinese tabs that are increasingly being resold as in house product, They might be made in a genuine pharma grade facility and not suffer the large variations the UGL produced tabs have.

Yes, the smaller the doses are, the more precise technologies and calculations are needed.

If a source shows photos of tests proving the dosage is correct, is this enough to assume it's safe to buy clenbuterol from that source?

 

[Ghoul]

Yes, the smaller the doses are, the more precise technologies and calculations are needed.

If a source shows photos of tests proving the dosage is correct, is this enough to assume it's safe to buy clenbuterol from that source?

It's not impossible, but when genuine pharma grade is only $8/50, who would bother investing in the time and equipment expense, along with continual testing, to ensure a truly accurate dose? Only Clen and T3 are seized like this for the PED scene. Everything else is in mg and easier to handle.

 

[Bulknlift86]

You would never make it to the gym, but you'd have a trunk full of copper and empty cans

Or sitting on xhamster for 4 days jerkin your limp noodle

 

[DECLAN]

It's not impossible, but when genuine pharma grade is only $8/50, who would bother investing in the time and equipment expense, along with continual testing, to ensure a truly accurate dose? Only Clen and T3 are seized like this for the PED scene. Everything else is in mg and easier to handle.

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If you guys have access to pharmacy grade clen and t3, why even try ugl.

You guys in the USA are so lucky to have access to pharmacy grade ancillaries and fat loss agents, indian and European online pharmacies have astronomically higher success to send their products your way compared to us here up north.

Either we get fleeced by domestic remailers or just have to gamble with ugl’s dosing on such compounds.

 

[Fittrader]

Bro there is Canadians labs who can nail the mcg of clen

If I am not mistaken you are Canadian ? Op

 

[bighunanballs]

It's not impossible, but when genuine pharma grade is only $8/50, who would bother investing in the time and equipment expense, along with continual testing, to ensure a truly accurate dose? Only Clen and T3 are seized like this for the PED scene. Everything else is in mg and easier to handle.

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ive had seriously bad luck getting india pharma meds through customs over the years. ive got one sitting in customs now for a while which i imagine i wont see. over the last few years i think im 10/10 for customs seizures all diff delivery addresses and names. literally not one has made it through.

 

[Burly]

It's not impossible, but when genuine pharma grade is only $8/50, who would bother investing in the time and equipment expense, along with continual testing, to ensure a truly accurate dose? Only Clen and T3 are seized like this for the PED scene. Everything else is in mg and easier to handle.

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Sopharma is also bunk. I found Hilma clen great, and pharmaqo also bunk.
Org. Spiropent also great. by Boehringer

 

[Ghoul]

Sopharma is also bunk. I found Hilma clen great, and pharmaqo also bunk.
Org. Spiropent also great. by Boehringer

I've used Pharmaqo extensively, and it was fire. except for when it was bunk, or just weak. I have zero faith in low variability of a mcg dosed anything UGL when it's a nightmare for the experts to manage it at pharma plants with far more resources and a requirement to get it right. Nice to see QSC taking variability seriously., hopefully 5 random pills out of sealed container will become the norm for orals testing.

 

[Liter O' Test]

pharma clen is dosed by spraying a clen solution onto tablets

I can't imagine trying to do MCGs with a powder.

Some sources are off by 25%-50% on 1mg adex dosing. and the revealing part of this is ,that this is the jano testing they show off, and didn't fix the batch or make a new one and or get new testing since 2022.

 

[iris]

It's not impossible, but when genuine pharma grade is only $8/50, who would bother investing in the time and equipment expense, along with continual testing, to ensure a truly accurate dose? Only Clen and T3 are seized like this for the PED scene. Everything else is in mg and easier to handle.

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Is it true that sopharma don't make clen anymore and the one out there is all fake/made by someone random?

 

[iris]

I've used Pharmaqo extensively, and it was fire. except for when it was bunk, or just weak. I have zero faith in low variability of a mcg dosed anything UGL when it's a nightmare for the experts to manage it at pharma plants with far more resources and a requirement to get it right. Nice to see QSC taking variability seriously., hopefully 5 random pills out of sealed container will become the norm for orals

Were you taking a beta blocker with it?