Readalots Enhanced Testing

[B Ware]

@readalot Chill a bit my dude. My post required 3 posts from you? It’s comical and very concerning seeing how worked up you get. Simmer down and have a civil conversation. It’s hard to keep up with all the word vomits.

 

[readalot]

@readalot Chill a bit my dude. My post required 3 posts from you? It’s comical and very concerning seeing how worked up you get. Simmer down and have a civil conversation. It’s hard to keep up with all the word vomits.

This stuff has been replayed over and over. I hope you are concerned with getting the facts straight. Some here aren't.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You first identify whether the issue is present, then you come up with solutions. And the solutions would be very obvious.

Let's say that, hypothetically, there were large concentrations of heavy metals in raws. This would be a big issue and would lead customers to demand heavy metal testing from their suppliers. Oils sources could advertise their own testing and show that their raws and oils are not affected. Market forces lead raws producers to clean up their act.

It is also insane to me how many people look at the results of the testing, and given that no major issues were revealed, now say it was pointless.

That's like paying for an inspection of your house that was build by a bunch of illegal immigrants with no formal training. If the building inspector's report does not reveal any structural issues, would you then conclude that the inspection was a 'waste of time'? Of course not. You would have to be functionally retarded to not understand this.

Heavy metals has been reviewed many years ago.

Ultimately its hard to hold the manufacturer accountable. This recent events shows that they aren't even the true manufacturer.


We are ultimately comparing it to buying illegal goods. There is no one regulating other than our own word.

If you compare UGL brewers, we have the ability to go to a different brewer. We cannot control the manufacturer of the raws.

You cannot compare those inspector for a regulated building to an illegal product.

I am down to test everything I can control. I can't control the rest. It's an illegal product and we do not have access to a pharmaceutical quality process

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

You are a genius when it comes to homebrewing, yet have an IQ of 70. Must be savant syndrome.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

I'm out of this shitty thread.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

On top of that, there is nothing we can do to improve quality control from illegal drug manufacturers .

Well that didn't last long. What an inspiring message of powerlessness. What you do, if you want to affect change, is you buy from vendors that make better quality gear. The money makes it happen. Again, this is so obvious that you can't help wonder if these objections are being made in good faith.

 

[B Ware]

Geez, take the “heavy metal” out of my post and read it as “testing crusade” if it makes ya feel better. You literally read the first sentence and went bonkers lol. I wasn’t necessarily coming at you sideways and had you read my post other than the first sentence I believe you’d see that. I just see things as @Spaceman Spiff does. I support harm reduction but not your tactics on this pursuit, which have been to spam and strong arm sources into this. Purchase something yourself and test it and if an area of the testing shows something to actually pop positive then you start strong arming sources. But again, what can be done if something does pop positive?

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

What happened when we started testing dimer in HGH? You started seeing more HGH with less dimer, and people bought more from those sources with less dimer or zero dimer, and the quality of HGH overall improved.

Given how that played out, it's easy to imagine how the process might repeat with additional tests. For example, if you started finding more endotoxin in some sources' products and less in others, sources with less endotoxin would get more business. Sources whose products contained higher levels would have an incentive to clean up their act.

Remember the classic Peter Drucker quote: "what gets measured gets managed".

100%

Over at PM, many sources still sell absolute garbage-quality GH, which if you are lucky they do a serum test on. Management does not allow users to conduct HPLC testing, so that they can continue to milk the sources, which in turn can rip off users by selling their untested dogshit at inflated prices.

The reason Meso has a large number of sources with the highest quality generic GH available, is the frequent blind testing of users, along with users putting pressure on sources to also test their stuff. Just recently, we bullied a source for daring to offer purity with below 95% purity here.

 

[BigNoOne]

When you are done reading let me know. I'll take the apology. Please don't spread this disinformation again.

Been crystal clear since I got here in Oct 2023. Enjoy the receipts.

Metals are not “bad”. The allowable levels for aluminum copper calcium iron magnesium manganese just aren’t as harmful from a toxicological perspective.

So you can “be concerned” all you want but as usual…. It’s for NO REASON!!!

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

The reason Meso has a large number of sources with the highest quality generic GH available, is the frequent blind testing of users, along with users putting pressure on sources to also test their stuff. Just recently, we bullied a source for daring to offer purity with below 95% purity here

How much blind testing have you done out of your own pocket/exposed the source? Curious.

Better yet, a test that did alter the people purchased products?

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Metals are not “bad”. The allowable levels for aluminum copper calcium iron magnesium manganese just aren’t as harmful from a toxicological perspective.

So you can “be concerned” all you want but as usual…. It’s for NO REASON!!!

How do you know the product only contains 'allowable' levels without testing at least a random sample? You absolute moron.

 

[BigNoOne]

You first identify whether the issue is present, then you come up with solutions. And the solutions would be very obvious.

Let's say that, hypothetically, there were large concentrations of heavy metals in raws. This would be a big issue and would lead customers to demand heavy metal testing from their suppliers. Oils sources could advertise their own testing and show that their raws and oils are not affected. Market forces lead raws producers to clean up their act.

It is also insane to me how many people look at the results of the testing, and given that no major issues were revealed, now say it was pointless.

That's like paying for an inspection of your house that was build by a bunch of illegal immigrants with no formal training. If the building inspector's report does not reveal any structural issues, would you then conclude that the inspection was a 'waste of time'? Of course not. You would have to be functionally retarded to not understand this.

No it’s like having houses that have no known issues or problems or reports of such. Then inspecting a bunch of random houses in the mountains for tidal damages and not finding any tidal damage in the mountain homes and concluding that mountain homes are not damaged by tidal flooding.

 

[BigNoOne]

How much blind testing have you done out of your own pocket/exposed the source? Curious.

Better yet, a test that did alter the people purchased products?

He’s another soap box speaker that wants to sound smart. Nobody listens to him in real life.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

How much blind testing have you done out of your own pocket/exposed the source? Curious.

Better yet, a test that did alter the people purchased products?

I donated to and was involved with the ProM GH testing project back in the day, which brought the whole topic of dimers and aggregates to the forefront. I also donated to AnaSci testing. And I currently have a sample with Janoshik and will share the results when I have them. I recently got perma-banned from PM for advocating for more testing, and for shitting on sources who sell untested garbage there.

Even if that were not the case, how would that invalidate any of my arguments, genius?

 

[BigNoOne]

How do you know the product only contain 'allowable' levels without testing at least a random sample? You absolute moron.

Well the products didn’t contain ANYTHING. That’s a big ZERO for you mongoloid. But let’s assume they actually contain metals. Look at any toxicological tables. Arsenic and other heavy metals will have a low low low allowable amount but the metals will have 100x higher allowable amounts. Look it up instead of getting angry and whipping out your tiny penis with the name calling.

 

[BigNoOne]

I donated to and was involved with the ProM GH testing project back in the day, which brought the whole topic of dimers and aggregates to the forefront. I also donated to AnaSci testing. And I currently have a sample with Janoshik and will share the results when I have them. I recently got perma-banned from PM for advocating for testing, and for shitting on sources who sell untested garbage there.

Even if that were not the case, how would that invalidate any of my arguments, genius?

Congratulations. You did great work at ProMuscle.

You should stay over there. Why waste your time here with us morons.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

He’s another soap box speaker that wants to sound smart. Nobody listens to him in real life.

People pay to listen to me, peasant. You are getting it for free, and should feel privileged.

Congratulations. You did great work at ProMuscle.

You should stay over there. Why waste your time here with us morons.

The average IQ on this forum is slightly higher, despite imbeciles like you pulling the average down.

 

[readalot]

How much blind testing have you done out of your own pocket/exposed the source? Curious.

Don't answer that @MyNameIsJeff . It will never be enough lol.

 

[BigNoOne]

People pay to listen to me, peasant. You are getting it for free, and should feel privileged.

Lol. Oh we all love @MyNameIsJeff

You think so lowly of yourself. I love that. Stay humble.

 

[readalot]

Geez, take the “heavy metal” out of my post and read it as “testing crusade” if it makes ya feel better.

Thanks.

You literally read the first sentence and went bonkers lol. I wasn’t necessarily coming at you sideways and had you read my post other than the first sentence I believe you’d see that.

Not necessarily? OK.

I just see things as @Spaceman Spiff does. I support harm reduction but not your tactics on this pursuit, which have been to spam and strong arm sources into this. Purchase something yourself and test it and if an area of the testing shows something to actually pop positive then you start strong arming sources. But again, what can be done if something does pop positive?

I paid up. But thanks. I'll take my marching orders from Millard's message. Strong arm sources? How horrible of me. Poor sources. They deserve so much more respect from me. I'm probably at the wrong forum. I thought this was Meso.

 

[readalot]

No it’s like having houses that have no known issues or problems or reports of such. Then inspecting a bunch of random houses in the mountains for tidal damages and not finding any tidal damage in the mountain homes and concluding that mountain homes are not damaged by tidal flooding.

Respectfully, that's the worst analogy I can remember reading. Break that one down for my stupid ass please. Wow.

I want to believe you are being a constructive devil's advocate, but then I read absolute mental excrement like that.