Readalots Enhanced Testing

[narta]

So, it is just the interactions on the board that cause you bother, really.

Yes

If for raws the minimum is hplc and gcms, say, is this too much to ask?

I am indifferent. I test my purchases myself. First by a local testing facility and if there is something out of line through Jano. I haven't send anything to Jano except a Ripped stack vial from QSC that I purchased for a 3rd party and the local testing facility he used didn't have one of the standards purchased. All raw and peptides are within 5% margin of error from the available vendor testing so far.

 

[RekTest]

OK.
But let me ask you this: you make your stuff, don't you?
You are just buying raws and peptides.
All the oil testing wouldn't affect you.

So, it is just the interactions on the board that cause you bother, really.
This testing malarkey is not going to harm you, is it?
If for raws the minimum is hplc and gcms, say, is this too much to ask?

His whole point is frivolous, by the simple fact theres an ignore button….

 

[iris]

I am indifferent.

Indeed you are, lol, and not a bad thing.
Testing it yourself again is the way to go.
Other people (but probably not enough?) who buy raws get them tested.

But I am saying in general, for anyone else, what do you think we should expect as a minimum from vendors?
A certain standard must be had.
So my question to you again

If for raws the minimum is hplc and gcms, say, is this too much to ask?

As the most basic thing: Yes, no?
Just hplc?
Because do we have regular tests for raws from every vendor, right now?
I don't think so.
It shouldn't be too difficult to test each batch of those, or is it?

 

[Liter O' Test]

Indeed you are, lol, and not a bad thing.
Testing it yourself again is the way to go.
Other people (but probably not enough?) who buy raws get them tested.

Dont even give this guy credence. You are engaging in a bad faith argument with a shill, thats why his comments dont make sense , youre jusst giving him more credability by acting like hes not a bad actor and just a regular unbiased guy and giving him more opportunities to backk track and smoke screen his obvious intentions which is to stop further testing.

 

[narta]

His whole point is frivolous, by the simple fact theres an ignore button….

If there was a forum module, that ignores posts that contain quotes from people on my ignore list, I would be happy as a pig in mud and never give a flying fuck for anything my shitlist writes.

But there isn't, so here we are.

 

[narta]

Indeed you are, lol, and not a bad thing.
Testing it yourself again is the way to go.
Other people (but probably not enough?) who buy raws get them tested.

But I am saying in general, for anyone else, what do you think we should expect as a minimum from vendors?
A certain standard must be had.
So my question to you again



As the most basic thing: Yes, no?
Just hplc?
Because do we have regular tests for raws from every vendor, right now?
I don't think so.
It shouldn't be too difficult to test each batch of those, or is it?

raws should be tested for purity via hplc as they are from vendors that sell raws as per forum guidelines/requirements.

And buyers should always verify their purchases, no matter what the vendor says.

 

[iris]

Dont even give this guy credence. You are engaging in a bad faith argument with a shill, thats why his comments dont make sense , youre jusst giving him more credability by acting like hes not a bad actor and just a regular unbiased guy and giving him more opportunities to backk track and smoke screen his obvious intentions which is to stop further testing.

Even if he were a China man shill from hell, do you seriously think that he would be able to "stop the testing" because he says so?
I am not defending anyone but I have interacted with Narta about many things, for quite some time, now.

You said it earlier, that the people here opposing this are just a minority that means nothing.
So why does he become so consequential in your eyes, now?

 

[narta]

Dont even give this guy credence. You are engaging in a bad faith argument with a shill, thats why his comments dont make sense , youre jusst giving him more credability by acting like hes not a bad actor and just a regular unbiased guy and giving him more opportunities to backk track and smoke screen his obvious intentions which is to stop further testing.

Sure. I am a Chinaman shill, that lack credibility, a bad actor that uses smoke screens to stop further testing.

You on the other hand, started this thread:

L

Thread 'Im taking 875mg testosterone during a cut/recomp. Do I add 5mg Halo, 200 DNP, 5IU insulin or 8mg Injectable sdrol?'

May 8, 2024

I'm taking 875mg testosterone during a recomp.

Do I add..
5mg Halo,
or
200 DNP,
or
5IU insulin
or
8mg Injectable sdrol?

• Liter O' Test
• Replies: 65
• Forum: Steroid Forum

Let's allow people to judge credibility and whatnot shall we?

 

[Liter O' Test]

Even if he were a China man shill from hell, do you seriously think that he would be able to "stop the testing" because he says so?
I am not defending anyone but I have interacted with Narta about many things, for quite some time, now.

You said it earlier, that the people here opposing this are just a minority that means nothing.
So why does he become so consequential in your eyes, now?

My point was, it doesnt matter because there are shills, so there will always be a loud minority but we have to be aware they are shills and not regular users and view their comments in that way. Because their comments are meant to be deceptive or anti consumer. Its disinformation

Its like when someone is lying but the other person doesnt want to believe it, so they go on and on trying to give them an opportunity to prove they arent lying

 

[iris]

If there was a forum module, that ignores posts that contain quotes from people on my ignore list, I would be happy as a pig in mud and never give a flying fuck for anything my shitlist writes.

But there isn't, so here we are.

Yes, you like to be left relatively in peace (I ain't doing that now...).
And yet, I think you wouldn't really enjoy hitting that button as much/often as you are saying.
I haven't yet seen you let anything you disagree with go unchallenged.
That's just you.
So, I kind of think that.
But maybe it's just because the damn shitlist function does not operate the way you want it.
It needs improvement, deffo...

His whole point is frivolous, by the simple fact theres an ignore button….

Imagine everyone did that, though.

Where would this thread be or end up being?
Better or worse off?

I have certainly used it and veeeeery happily so for various individuals who are just intent in turning up on every thread and make it about themselves and their narcissistic crap.
A recent one, in particular. Trash.

This is not that. And it is right that the people who disagree get to interact with it.
I may disagree with some of the points made against testing.
But many others were valid.
I could have put all the naysayers on ignore but did not.
Narta has his ideas and his own reasons for being here, like everyone else.
But he is far from stupid.
He knows what hitting ignore on someone like Readalot means.

 

[iris]

there will always be a loud minority but we have to be aware they are shills and not regular users and view their comments in that way. Because their comments are meant to be deceptive or anti consumer. Its disinformation

And so Narta is a shill.

However, I am now interested in what you think about what the shill has replied to me above, about the various tests that are being proposed and their actual feasibility.

What do you know about all this?

I still have a lot to understand, so I want to know what you have to say about this.

You have not commented on any of it, yet.

 

[Liter O' Test]

However, I am now interested in what you think about what the shill has replied to me above, about the various tests that are being proposed and their actual feasibility.

What do you know about all this?

I still have a lot to understand, so I want to know what you have to say about this.

You have not commented on any of it, yet.

I don't care about the minutia, re-read my posts about him.
its obvious he is a bad faith actor thus there is no point in engaging with a discussion, like i said in my previous comment.

 

[iris]

I don't care about the minutia, re-read my posts about him.
its obvious he is a bad faith actor thus there is no point in engaging with a discussion, like i said in my previous comment.

For God's sake,

I don't give a flying fuck about you calling Narta a shill.
You have written this 10 times now.

I asked YOU ABOUT ENHANCED TESTING AND WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.

ABOUT YOUR OPINION WITH REGARDS TO WHAT NARTA HAS WRITTEN TO ME ABOUT IT.

Flipping just above.

But you have been busy giving me thumbs down for irrelevant bullshit.

What do you know about how a ugl operates?
Do you make your own stuff?


Let's see ya now

 

[iris]

I don't care about the minutia, re-read my posts about him.
its obvious he is a bad faith actor thus there is no point in engaging with a discussion, like i said in my previous comment.

Here, since you cannot find it

What is in the realm of possibility and what is not.

HPLC testing: Yes both for finished products and raws
Sterility: Probable depending chain of custody
Heavy metals contamination: It has been done numerous times and always came back negative. Even Jano has commented on that and said that is virtually no such things in the last few years

Everything else is just added cost and delays (if you want every batch tested as it should) for the big vendors that move massive quantities. To even have a chance to make that viable, the vendors will need to implement an extra step of inkjet the batch number directly to the vial so there is a point of reference since labels are not a thing.

 

[iris]

OK, whilst I wait for the above to reply

@narta

Yes, the flipping ignore thing works in halves.
From Ben's thread (raw-finished), I am getting notifications for all sorts of shit that is being replied to, which I have blocked.
So, you are right, it works badly like that.
I wish none of it came through.

But also, it should go viceversa, automatically.
Like, if you ignore someone, they stop seeing your posts too.
I think instagram works like that.
I have had a thing here where dumbass number one kept tagging me to swear at me, not knowing that I could not see any of it, at all.
Until someone told me, lol.
But it shows you what I mean.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Here, since you cannot find it

why would i engage in a discussion expecting a honest response from someone who,

#1 defends sources like its their job
#2 doesn't want more testing
#3 wants to limit the testing talk
#4 wants the testing talk to "die"
#5 personally attacks users that criticize sources or pushes for more testing

and all of this from someone who claims to be "indifferent" and "brews themself"

You lack pattern recognition

 

[iris]

View attachment 307449

This is a thread for testing, u said.

Here
Tell us what is good, so, so, not so good here:

Edit: I'll put the list here so everyone can see scope. I'll avoid an essay (haha) for now.

Special thanks to @janoshik for expanding the metals test for no additional charge! Very nice of him.

1. Hplc Purity - 120 usd
2. GCMS - 170 usd
3. Expanded metals list for standard list price (personally approved by Jano via xxxxxxxxx) - 60 usd
4. endotoxins - 120 usd
5. Residual solvent poor man's test (KF+loss on drying) - 60 usd
6. Shipping 45 usd
7. total - 575 usd

The residual solvents testing is mostly symbolic at this point as Jano and I agreed this won't tell us much. At some point a proper GCMS test with proper equipment would allow accurate characterization of residual solvents. The business case for the

 

[iris]

All he has posted about is Narta.

Nothing whatsoever about the tests he is going to go on sources threads and ask they do.

Curious, this

 

[iris]

@bigMoJo

Please help... this has turned into the China shill thread

 

[iris]

View attachment 307449
why would i engage in a discussion expecting a honest response from someone who,

#1 defends sources like its their job
#2 doesn't want more testing
#3 wants to limit the testing talk
#4 wants the testing talk to "die"
#5 personally attacks users that criticize sources or pushes for more testing

and all of this from someone who claims to be "indifferent" and "brews themself"

You lack pattern recognition

U taking the piss now?

This is about testing, not your sus boycrush.

Here it is again, FROM READALOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE THREAD.

LAST ATTEMPT.
U ARE HERE ABOUT THE TESTING:

Edit: I'll put the list here so everyone can see scope. I'll avoid an essay (haha) for now.

Special thanks to @janoshik for expanding the metals test for no additional charge! Very nice of him.

1. Hplc Purity - 120 usd
2. GCMS - 170 usd
3. Expanded metals list for standard list price (personally approved by Jano via xxxxxxxxx) - 60 usd
4. endotoxins - 120 usd
5. Residual solvent poor man's test (KF+loss on drying) - 60 usd
6. Shipping 45 usd
7. total - 575 usd

The residual solvents testing is mostly symbolic at this point as Jano and I agreed this won't tell us much. At some point a proper GCMS test with proper equipment