Rebirth Project ?

Do some research around the forums dude. Fuck buying locally. Local is just the same shit you'd buy online heavily marked up. You can find a good domestic source for about half that price and have your gear in a few days.
That's my problem.. I just moved out to where I am.. I know no one..so I'm trying to find were a legit source maybe
 
That's my problem.. I just moved out to where I am.. I know no one..so I'm trying to find were a legit source maybe
That's the great thing about meso. You don't need to know anyone. Look around the underground and check out feedback on different sources. After reading a while you'll get a good feel for who's decent and who's garbage. There's always risk but making an educated decision will minimize it. Gotta keep up with it though. A lab that's good today can be garbage tomorrow.
 
That's my problem.. I just moved out to where I am.. I know no one..so I'm trying to find were a legit source maybe
Well no one real mother fucker on here is gonna tell u any source is good to go but there are some here check out the underground section might be a good place to start and if u ask for a source be careful there are a lot of people trying to scam people
 
That's the great thing about meso. You don't need to know anyone. Look around the underground and check out feedback on different sources. After reading a while you'll get a good feel for who's decent and who's garbage. There's always risk but making an educated decision will minimize it. Gotta keep up with it though. A lab that's good today can be garbage tomorrow.
I'll be sure to check out that section then right now.
 
Lab testing is also a great place man I'm trying to spoon feed u alittle well because fuck rebirth that's y lol
 
Lab testing is also a great place man I'm trying to spoon feed u alittle well because fuck rebirth that's y lol

I wouldn't consider what you're doing to be spoon feeding. We all throw that term around and use it loosely, but the way I have always seen it, is that we can usually tell who is sincerely making an effort to learn how to play the game, and who is just being lazy looking for a handout without putting in the effort.

I like this guy Inkmylife, and I am glad to see us helping him out some. He is obviously new to this aspect of the game, but he also seems to be genuinely appreciative and sincerely trying to learn how to help himself.

We all start somewhere. We have a chance to help teach him how to acclimate himself, and like I said earlier, he has even already contributed by shining a light on a source that sold bunk gear.

BTW, Ink, these two dudes who are talking Cali with you ( @wedorecover and @TorroXL ) are two GREAT dudes to listen to. Both great guys with a lot of experience and street smarts!
 
I wouldn't consider what you're doing to be spoon feeding. We all throw that term around and use it loosely, but the way I have always seen it, is that we can usually tell who is sincerely making an effort to learn how to play the game, and who is just being lazy looking for a handout without putting in the effort.

I like this guy Inkmylife, and I am glad to see us helping him out some. He is obviously new to this aspect of the game, but he also seems to be genuinely appreciative and sincerely trying to learn how to help himself.

We all start somewhere. We have a chance to help teach him how to acclimate himself, and like I said earlier, he has even already contributed by shining a light on a source that sold bunk gear.

BTW, Ink, these two dudes who are talking Cali with you ( @wedorecover and @TorroXL ) are two GREAT dudes to listen to. Both great guys with a lot of experience and street smarts!
Thank you for the info... you can't learn if you don't listen you know.. either way I'm glad I now have people that I can talk to about questions and such. I really do appricate it.
 
I wouldn't consider what you're doing to be spoon feeding. We all throw that term around and use it loosely, but the way I have always seen it, is that we can usually tell who is sincerely making an effort to learn how to play the game, and who is just being lazy looking for a handout without putting in the effort.

I like this guy Inkmylife, and I am glad to see us helping him out some. He is obviously new to this aspect of the game, but he also seems to be genuinely appreciative and sincerely trying to learn how to help himself.

We all start somewhere. We have a chance to help teach him how to acclimate himself, and like I said earlier, he has even already contributed by shining a light on a source that sold bunk gear.

BTW, Ink, these two dudes who are talking Cali with you ( @wedorecover and @TorroXL ) are two GREAT dudes to listen to. Both great guys with a lot of experience and street smarts!
Another 100 likes my friend;)^^^^
 
I wouldn't consider what you're doing to be spoon feeding. We all throw that term around and use it loosely, but the way I have always seen it, is that we can usually tell who is sincerely making an effort to learn how to play the game, and who is just being lazy looking for a handout without putting in the effort.

I like this guy Inkmylife, and I am glad to see us helping him out some. He is obviously new to this aspect of the game, but he also seems to be genuinely appreciative and sincerely trying to learn how to help himself.

We all start somewhere. We have a chance to help teach him how to acclimate himself, and like I said earlier, he has even already contributed by shining a light on a source that sold bunk gear.

BTW, Ink, these two dudes who are talking Cali with you ( @wedorecover and @TorroXL ) are two GREAT dudes to listen to. Both great guys with a lot of experience and street smarts!
Ya just so many new guys come and go all the info is here if they want it I still learn from guys off here everyday
 
Thank you for the info... you can't learn if you don't listen you know.. either way I'm glad I now have people that I can talk to about questions and such. I really do appricate it.
Stick around bro. You'll discover that this place is more of a harm reduction board more then anything else. Guys like @bickel29 are a valuable asset to this board. Also, check out @Oregongearhead and his food thread. All great stuff. How can I forget the training forum. Definitely check that out too. I spent many years training in Oregon myself. Up there in regards to hear you will see alot of Biotech and AAS pharma.
DO YOUR RESEARCH HERE!!!! Don't listen to guys at your local gym...
 
DO YOUR RESEARCH HERE!!!! Don't listen to guys at your local gym...

Man, I couldn't agree with this part more! Great advice!

I would even add "Don't even acknowledge your involvement with AAS, and don't even discuss it at your gym". You never know who is who.

When I first started in this game, all of your interaction with others living this lifestyle was face to face, in your gym and in your hometown. As a result, too many fellas knew too many other fellas business. Everyone knew everyone IRL. Now thankfully not only did our local LE not have a problem with it, but they were part of our culture.

But times have changed. The laws have gotten stricter. LE can use AAS busts to earn favor with locals, and/or their bosses.

Personally, I have only admitted to, and discussed AAS, with my two best buddies at the gym who I knew for 2 years before I even acknowledged it to them. Guys will ask me what I am taking, or flat out talk like they know what I am doing, but I always just play dumb and change the subject.

In the year 2016 there is such little benefit to talking about it in your gym, and way too much risk. You don't need those gym relationships for anything that you can't find online. Furthermore, if you piss the wrong person off and they have that dirt on you IRL, well, that's risky.

Again, very good advice by Tank (Torro).
 
Man, I couldn't agree with this part more! Great advice!

I would even add "Don't even acknowledge your involvement with AAS, and don't even discuss it at your gym". You never know who is who.

When I first started in this game, all of your interaction with others living this lifestyle was face to face, in your gym and in your hometown. As a result, too many fellas knew too many other fellas business. Everyone knew everyone IRL. Now thankfully not only did our local LE not have a problem with it, but they were part of our culture.

But times have changed. The laws have gotten stricter. LE can use AAS busts to earn favor with locals, and/or their bosses.

Personally, I have only admitted to, and discussed AAS, with my two best buddies at the gym who I knew for 2 years before I even acknowledged it to them. Guys will ask me what I am taking, or flat out talk like they know what I am doing, but I always just play dumb and change the subject.

In the year 2016 there is such little benefit to talking about it in your gym, and way too much risk. You don't need those gym relationships for anything that you can't find online. Furthermore, if you piss the wrong person off and they have that dirt on you IRL, well, that's risky.

Again, very good advice by Tank (Torro).
Couldn't agree more Brother. The thing is, IME you get more BRO SCIENCE at the gym then anything. At meso, we like to deal in facts and science. I've chatted with guys for days here and I've learned so much. Who knows, I coulda been talking with an ifbb pro for all I know;)
We know our shit around here and that's for dam sure!
 
Couldn't agree more Brother. The thing is, IME you get more BRO SCIENCE at the gym then anything. At meso, we like to deal in facts and science. I've chatted with guys for days here and I've learned so much. Who knows, I coulda been talking with an ifbb pro for all I know;)
We know our shit around here and that's for dam sure!
I always wonder who is on here at a pro level haha.
And don't forget the MDs!
 
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