Recovering addicts

[Perrin Aybara]

Hey guys. So my girl has been on subs for 3 years now taking 24+mg a day. Is there any way of getting off from that? I understand being an addict. I've came off alcohol, oxys and xanax before. Alcohol being the worst for me but I drank an ungodly amount of liqueur a day erryday. She wants me to give her xanax to help her come off of it but I know she likes xanax too much and will get addicted to them quick. I've taken subs rec and know how strong they are, I would rather come off pretty much anything before them if I was on them for a long time.

Of course there's a way. Coming off after a long time is going to be awful, no ways around it unless you do a supervised medical detox. I believe they run about $3500. They put you in a mediated state and flush your system out somehow. Never had the money to have it done myself. Otherwise taper down, which I've also never done, lol. It's always been straight cold turkey for me, usually against my will. Anyway, it's gonna suck, but better than being a drug addict and depending on them forever just to feel normal.

 

[johnnydoe]

Of course there's a way. Coming off after a long time is going to be awful, no ways around it unless you do a supervised medical detox. I believe they run about $3500. They put you in a mediated state and flush your system out somehow. Never had the money to have it done myself. Otherwise taper down, which I've also never done, lol. It's always been straight cold turkey for me, usually against my will. Anyway, it's gonna suck, but better than being a drug addict and depending on them forever just to feel normal.

I think she needs to check into detox for a while, she has done it before. But that's a lot to be taking for 3 years straight.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

That's what I told her but when she has them she takes them but says she wants to get off. I completely understand the addict way of thinking, I've been there. I've seen her take 7 in one day before.

Damn bro....that Doc is straight scam. I thought my sisters doc is a piece of shit for keeping her on 2mg a day for so long now....she needs to wean down now...ive detoxed off 8 and thats a nightmare in itself...24....damn...

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Suboxone "treatment" is all about profiting off drug addicts' misery in my opinion. Easy to charge someone $8/pill when they're addicted to them and why ever taper them off. I hate that shit. Caused me a lot of pain.

 

[johnnydoe]

Damn bro....that Doc is straight scam. I thought my sisters doc is a piece of shit for keeping her on 2mg a day for so long now....she needs to wean down now...ive detoxed off 8 and thats a nightmare in itself...24....damn...

His ass needs to be busted. Im sure he is doing something illegal. A sub Dr can only have so many patients and I think he is over his limit at this clinic plus he has more clinics in different states. Cash only payment that im sure he shows every penny to the IRS.........

 

[jJjburton]

Hey guys. So my girl has been on subs for 3 years now taking 24+mg a day. Is there any way of getting off from that? I understand being an addict. I've came off alcohol, oxys and xanax before. Alcohol being the worst for me but I drank an ungodly amount of liqueur a day erryday. She wants me to give her xanax to help her come off of it but I know she likes xanax too much and will get addicted to them quick. I've taken subs rec and know how strong they are, I would rather come off pretty much anything before them if I was on them for a long time.

I cant take xanax or I take em all. I dont have this problem with valium, or librium. I know for me subs are impossible to kick. But I know that DXM helps on days I dont have any or take to much of my script and come up short. I am thinking that after my outpatient and probabtion, I am going to try valium and DXM to help withdrawals. DXK is dextromorphan, And with a have a bottle you dont trip balls and it helps. I have tried kratom and it just makes me sick. I have been stuck on 3-4 mg for 2 yrs. She DOESNT NEED 24 mg. Thats alot. If she just takes 2-4 mg she will feel euphoria from it. But you dont with higher amounts.

 

[jJjburton]

Suboxone "treatment" is all about profiting off drug addicts' misery in my opinion. Easy to charge someone $8/pill when they're addicted to them and why ever taper them off. I hate that shit. Caused me a lot of pain.

but when you are fiending from heroin and cant function in life subs are a much better route. At least you can work and lift on subs, and eat. I couldnt on H.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

but when you are fiending from heroin and cant function in life subs are a much better route. At least you can work and lift on subs, and eat. I couldnt on H.

It's just substituting one drug for another. It's not recovery or sobriety. It's just delaying the inevitable and keeping your mind and body dependant on opiates for longer.

 

[jJjburton]

It's just substituting one drug for another. It's not recovery or sobriety. It's just delaying the inevitable and keeping your mind and body dependant on opiates for longer.

yes but I was only going to do this for 2-3 weeks. Then stop. So I dont withdraw as bad from subs, And I dont get addicted to other shit. I hope.... Otherwise idk what to do. I dont want to feel like shit then I cant lift for 4 weeks.

 

[jJjburton]

yes but I was only going to do this for 2-3 weeks. Then stop. So I dont withdraw as bad from subs, And I dont get addicted to other shit. I hope.... Otherwise idk what to do. I dont want to feel like shit then I cant lift for 4 weeks.

Unless I use those 4 weeks as a deload maybe. But right now I just got work and am on a role. So I dont wanna stop yet.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

yes but I was only going to do this for 2-3 weeks. Then stop. So I dont withdraw as bad from subs, And I dont get addicted to other shit. I hope.... Otherwise idk what to do. I dont want to feel like shit then I cant lift for 4 weeks.

Do what for 2-3 weeks? Haven't you been on subs for years? I mean eventually you're going to have to feel like shit for awhile. Just one of those things. Didn't you say you're going to prison or jail in a few months? That's your opportunity to kick that garbage for good. It's what I did and it was the best thing that could have happened to me.

 

[Jak3d]

Damn this is going to feel good to say. New years resolution I haven't smoked weed or touched oxy. I was smoking when I wasn't working and popping 4 pills and day when I was working. My parents actually asked why I don't visit as much as i did, thats where I would get my oxy from. The fact that my work implemented random drug tests helped with the will power too.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Damn this is going to feel good to say. New years resolution I haven't smoked weed or touched oxy. I was smoking when I wasn't working and popping 4 pills and day when I was working. My parents actually asked why I don't visit as much as i did, thats where I would get my oxy from. The fact that my work implemented random drug tests helped with the will power too.

Congrats. Keep it up.

 

[Ryno1980]

idk if there is a threads about this but I just wanted to see how many of my meso brothers and sisters are recovering addicts and what's your clean / sober date

Your so lucky that one dude got banned for being a liar or fraud or whatever the fuck it was... cant think of his name... but i started a thread like this and he talked shit the whole time...

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

It's just substituting one drug for another. It's not recovery or sobriety. It's just delaying the inevitable and keeping your mind and body dependant on opiates for longer.

Very good point!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Your so lucky that one dude got banned for being a liar or fraud or whatever the fuck it was... cant think of his name... but i started a thread like this and he talked shit the whole time...

Odie? Lol, i remember that.

Very good point!

I really hate subs and methadone with a passion. I've seen and been through too much. If someone can use them right and get clean I'm happy for them, but this shit with doctors and clinics keeping addicts on for years pisses me off. It's exploitation for profit, plain and simple. Several doctors in my area have lost their license over being shady with this stuff. It strikes a nerve with me.

 

[wedorecover]

Your so lucky that one dude got banned for being a liar or fraud or whatever the fuck it was... cant think of his name... but i started a thread like this and he talked shit the whole time...

Who ever he is fuck him

 

[Just Fish]

Hey guys. So my girl has been on subs for 3 years now taking 24+mg a day. Is there any way of getting off from that? I understand being an addict. I've came off alcohol, oxys and xanax before. Alcohol being the worst for me but I drank an ungodly amount of liqueur a day erryday. She wants me to give her xanax to help her come off of it but I know she likes xanax too much and will get addicted to them quick. I've taken subs rec and know how strong they are, I would rather come off pretty much anything before them if I was on them for a long time.

Look up clonodine. It is way safer and less addictive than xanax. I know people that have used this and they say it helped a lot. I wish I had known about it when I quit oxy's. She is on an insane dose. That is going to be very tough to kick. She needs to taper down before she quits.

 

[johnnydoe]

I might get her to go to the Dr and ask for some meds to help her quit (not her sub Dr) all I can do for her is xanax and clonopin and I know she doesn't need that. I know she will have to have something when she is feeling really bad. So maybe Valium, librium dxm or clondine?

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Valium is just as bad as any other benzo for an addict. In my opinion anyway. Pharmacist carries clonidine, by the way, in case you can't get it from a doctor. I keep some on hand in case of big BP spikes from gear.

If you've got through money do the medical detox. Seems like you miss learning a hard lesson that way, but less suffering.