Recovery from 4 year blast and cruise.

[Daveanthony]

Jay monks needs his dead dick kicked in. 26? You sound like your 16, talking like a fool

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Oh turn it in you fucking goon.

 

[kosp]

The only reason you "need" hcg is to keep your balls from shriveling up. It's not doing anything beneficial that the test isn't doing and it drives up your estrogen leading to the use of other drugs, more often. Disclaimer, I don't need my balls to work anymore so I could care less about their functionality. This statement would change depending on life goals.

If your estrogen is low as you said, maybe hcg can do the trick.

Another scary thing of trt is being +60 years old still using it. Maybe your body will not admit it the same way that now. What do you think?

 

[nervje]

If your estrogen is low as you said, maybe hcg can do the trick.

Another scary thing of trt is being +60 years old still using it. Maybe your body will not admit it the same way that now. What do you think?

Thats my biggest concern too.

Something like desentisation over the years so you will not respond anymore at all or constantly need to up the dosage.

I read alot about this in various forums and groups and didnt really find many long term trt users (>10 years), but those who did, didnt experience such thing really.

Also i had a private convo with stan efferding who said he is on trt (in his younger years on other aas) for around 25 years now and he is in his 50s,and says he feels awesome due to trt and recommends it.

 

[Sharkweek]

Thats my biggest concern too.

Something like desentisation over the years so you will not respond anymore at all or constantly need to up the dosage.

I read alot about this in various forums and groups and didnt really find many long term trt users (>10 years), but those who did, didnt experience such thing really.

Also i had a private convo with stan efferding who said he is on trt (in his younger years on other aas) for around 25 years now and he is in his 50s,and says he feels awesome due to trt and recommends it.

Why would exogenous test be any different than endogenous?

 

[kosp]

Why would exogenous test be any different than endogenous?

Because body is so intelligent

 

[nervje]

Why would exogenous test be any different than endogenous?

From my experience, you also are alot stronger when you are on test injections at dosages that put you into the natural range.
ive been in natural range on cruises for a few weeks and didnt lose any strength or energy, as soon as you stop the injections, strength goes down.
Its THAT much of a difference, even on low dosages.

If the body compensates trt dosages over time...well if receptors are really a thing, why would they only saturate on high doses, and not low doses over time too

 

[kosp]

@Jay Monks come on it's time to show the cream

 

[kosp]

608 ng/dl means normal level for a young man. There is no one with >900ng/dl naturally as your results showed some weeks ago, as you were years taking SERMS, it took more time to stop doing effect.

You are recovered man, congrats.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yeah.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

608 ng/dl means normal level for a young man. There is no one with >900ng/dl naturally as your results showed some weeks ago, as you were years taking SERMS, it took more time to stop doing effect.

You are recovered man, congrats.

Cheers man appreciate it. I have been smoking a lot of weed, beer and other things so I'm alright with that.

 

[kosp]

Cheers man appreciate it. I have been smoking a lot of weed, beer and other things so I'm alright with that.

You can do whatever if you keep training heavy, eating plenty of proteins and quality fats, HIIT is also a big one. Strong, healthy and high af. Good life

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I haven't been training properly either haha. Nevermind, ill get back into it once Africa fucks off. It's too hot.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Anyway thanks guys it's been a pleasure. I'll be back in another couple of months with a full metabolic panel.

 

[kosp]

I haven't been training properly either haha. Nevermind, ill get back into it once Africa fucks off. It's too hot.

Too hot there in UK. You can"t imagine here in Spain.

Also, keep tobacco away, it ruins everything. Just joints with 70-80% green

 

[Athleticgingerpta]

601? Wow. And that’s 12 weeks post last serm? That’s awesome man. I’m pretty sure you’re recovered!

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Oh shit I nearly forgot.
Fuck you DrJim and suck eggs son.

 

[T-Bagger]

Oh shit I nearly forgot.
Fuck you DrJim and suck eggs son.

Lol

 

[Oregongearhead]

246lbs ripped to fuck. 220kg squats for 10. Deadlifts 350kg easy. Bench 210kg.
I will repeat this cause you clearly have no brain fucking cells. DOCTORS IN THE UK SAY THAT THE TEST LEVEL OF 12 WAS FINE. So they cannot help. I have improved it myself regardless of your shitty input that helps to no degree. Thanks anyway.

I did a (using 12) nmol to ng/dl conversion on your test result and your 366 ng according to this chart , thats normal . Lowish normal for your age but our US doctors wouldnt put you on TRT until you go under 250-300ng (9-10 nmol).

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I started this thread knowing full well that i was gonna get a lot of shit from members on here, for self medicating.
You can listen to the likes of DrJim and accept that you fucked up and you have to live with your new crappy level.. But the proofs in the fucking pudding boys.
Bro science 1 DrJim 0.

I did a (using 12) nmol to ng/dl conversion on your test result and your 366 ng according to this chart , thats normal . Lowish normal for your age but our US doctors wouldnt put you on TRT until you go under 250-300ng (9-10 nmol).

I already knew this I don't see your point?