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Discussion in 'New Member Introduction' started by Kinetics63, Jan 31, 2017.
Thanks, bro.....I laughed at the pun, intended or not!
Raloxifene is probably the only ancillary I don't have a stock of because of it's propensity to raise the risk of blood clots and steroids already thicken blood. But I do have Letro, aromasin, arimidex, Nolvadex, clomid and cabergoline on hand - enough for many cycles.
I am obviously prone to gyno, but the real reason I got it so bad was I didn't know anything about on cycle or post cycle ancillaries 20 years ago. To top it off I was locked up for a few year mid cycle and gained a ton of weight (for me) from the cheap carbs they feed you in prison.
This old man is well prepared for the next several cycles an my ancillaries were the FIRST things I stocked up on.
According to this surgeon you are correct, but estrogen still needs to be kept in check without crushing it. My surgeon wouldn't give me a straight answer when I asked about recurrence of gyno while on steroids. All he kept saying was he removed the entire breast bud. I think he didn't want to sound like he was condoning steroid use.
BTW, I am not on TRT because my doctor says my test levels are good for a 50 something old man. We'll see how I recover from my next cycle; I may just put myself on TRT.
Holy crap, welcome to Meso
That is bro science bullshit. They don't remove the entire gland. It would be impossible and it would leave a crater in your pec. Look up bad gyno surgery cratering. You can decolop gyno just as easy as before because you are gyno prone
Your free testosterone is really all that matters and that is pretty high for your age. I personally would not touch gear if I wasn't already on Trt.
Don't listen to this dude he is an idiot. I researched this extensively. I just had gyno surgery myself December 30th.
Whatever. At the end of the day surgery is cheap. Small price to pay granted you have a competent surgeon to have some fun with hormones
Or you can just be smart and avoid it. What happens when they fuck up or you die during surgery. Small price to pay smh
I was just sayin...surgery is cheap. So if you need it, it won't break the bank. Get off your high horse and gear down big guy. Should be able to have a conversation without flexin at people. Tf are you even shaking your head about? Our normal conversation? Lol love how the only way to meet people here is to first establish superiority. Same team, bro.
Your comment could cause noobs to think that they could just do whatever and get surgery. gyno surgery is a serious surgery and could have serious complications. I am just now getting back to the gym. I do apologize for the way I spoke though. I just got done dealing with a troll that constantly aggravates me.
Ok. I feel you.
If you read my comment it ended with a question mark so it was a question, not stating a fact. If somebody is stupid enough to misinterpret my comments and end up causing harm to themselves as a result of reading my comments, that's just Darwin doin his thing.
How long did your recovery take? What % of the gland was removed? Cost?
Fuck that! I'm going to blast no matter where my natural Test levels are. That said, I will see how I recover from the next cycle after pct (it's been over 20 years) and if my free Test comes back up to where it is now, then yes, I agree it's better not to TRT. But at my age I'm not counting on it. Plus, I would rather be on the high end of natural Test levels when not on cycle and not just "good for my age". I'm going for quality of life with the next couple of decades I MAY have left.
Lol, it's been 31 days and I'm pretty much 100%. My chest in the nipple area is sore as fuck but that's it. I'm just feeling like shit coming of painkillers. They removed most of it they just left enough to support my nipple. It cost my insurance company 15k lol. The hospital charged them 6k and surgeon charged 9k.
If you have that mentality then you might as well just blast and cruise. Your levels are pretty low for an average person. There is no point in feeling like shit and risking gyno again.
That's more than likely what I'll end up doing...Not too worried about the gyno anymore. The only reason I got it in the first place was because of absolutely no protection when cycling over 20 years ago. My only question now is how long is the recommended cruise period between cycles? I'm assuming it's when bloods come back stable and in the acceptable ranges. I hear all kinds of different opinions. I'm looking to stay healthy and not do anything too crazy.
I've researched that also. From what I've gathered at least 8 weeks between blasts or whenever your labs are normal or back to baseline. I will be blasting very soon myself. Did a short Anavar cycle right before surgery. I was planning on doing a blast but my surgery had to be bumped up so I just added some anavar to my Trt.
@Just Fish... wait, you got your insurance company to cover this, how did you manage that?!?!?!? Did you get lipo as well, or just gland removal? Local, or general? Thanks.