resistant to HCG

[Chris U.]

I'm up to 1,000 IU every 2 days HCG after 500 and 750 werent working.. to get my ball size close to normal. I'm almost 52 and have been on TRT for about 4 years. I have had cycles of Primo 300 mg a week and Deca or anavar added about 10-12 weeks. Few week breaks to 150-200 mg / wk test e. Was doing 300 iu 3 x a week. It never kept my balls more than 1/2 normal size. I've been on HCG about coninuously for many years.
Anyhow am I the only one that needs high HCG to hope to return to near normal? I've read that you do not become resistant to it. Though, I seem to remember many years ago HCG woudl work better on me . Is there a way to re sensitize to HCG? I'm sure my age has big part of it.

TIA

 

[Grey Spartan]

How long did you wait before you decided to do 1cc of HCG every other day?

That much HCG is going to shoot your estrogen through the roof so make sure you keep that in check.

I'm a little older than you and I take 350-400iu every other day. It took about 1 month for my balls and semen output to get to pre-TRT level. They now stay there with this dosage no matter how much gear I take. I do believe I read or heard 345iu every other day was the minimum to maintain normal production.

 

[BuildABro]

I'm up to 1,000 IU every 2 days HCG after 500 and 750 werent working.. to get my ball size close to normal. I'm almost 52 and have been on TRT for about 4 years. I have had cycles of Primo 300 mg a week and Deca or anavar added about 10-12 weeks. Few week breaks to 150-200 mg / wk test e. Was doing 300 iu 3 x a week. It never kept my balls more than 1/2 normal size. I've been on HCG about coninuously for many years.
Anyhow am I the only one that needs high HCG to hope to return to near normal? I've read that you do not become resistant to it. Though, I seem to remember many years ago HCG woudl work better on me . Is there a way to re sensitize to HCG? I'm sure my age has big part of it.

TIA

Have you thought about trying a different compound perhaps? Maybe Clomid or Nolvadex for example?

 

[McLovin.]

HCG tends to not work well with 19-nor's in the picture

 

[armburst]

HCG tends to not work well with 19-nor's in the picture

Is no point to use hcg and nor19 together then?

 

[McLovin.]

Is no point to use hcg and nor19 together then?

not really no i don't see a point in using hcg in general unless you want to pct after blasting but i don't see that as a valid way of using ped's

HCG is a fertility drug and it should be kept there imo if HCG fails HMG is next i guess

 

[narta]

Smaller the eggs bigger the sausage mate.

On a serious note, clomid

 

[armburst]

not really no i don't see a point in using hcg in general unless you want to pct after blasting but i don't see that as a valid way of using ped's

HCG is a fertility drug and it should be kept there imo if HCG fails HMG is next i guess

Even if you trying baby while on cycle included nor19 is pointless to use hcg?

 

[McLovin.]

Even if you trying baby while on cycle included nor19 is pointless to use hcg?

if you try really really really hard you hcg will magically work....

why would it be any different if youre trying to get a kid or not HCG still wont play well with 19-nor's

 

[Eddie.]

Why you need bigger balls at 52? If HCG is not working for you, are you willing to try other drugs more harsh on your body (like clomid) only for making balls bigger?

 

[Chris U.]

How long did you wait before you decided to do 1cc of HCG every other day?

That much HCG is going to shoot your estrogen through the roof so make sure you keep that in check.

I'm a little older than you and I take 350-400iu every other day. It took about 1 month for my balls and semen output to get to pre-TRT level. They now stay there with this dosage no matter how much gear I take. I do believe I read or heard 345iu every other day was the minimum to maintain normal production.

Yes I was thinking same thing. But isnt that the case only if the HCG is 'working' ? SInce it may not be working for me, then estro not an issue? I cant just go test it, it's a process goign to the blodd test place etc...

My balls are slowly getting bigger, may have stopped again. I went up to 1,000 iu every 2 days (fter 2+ weeks on lower dose) b/c I was reading online of guys taking various doses of HCG 300-700 and they ver quickly literally saw results. SInce I was seeing nothing I ramped up
I started on about 300 eod for about a week or so and nothing..This was after I totally stopped all test e, which i was on 150 mg per week for about 8 weeks, which is after I came off primo (after my shoulder surgery) which was about 200 mg/week.
After the week or so of 300 iu eod i went to 500 for about 5 days then 750 for a few days, with very little results. A total of about 3 weeks ramping up from 300 7-10 days, then 500 a few, 750 about 5-7 days. Now 1000 since late last week.
Should I ramp down to 500 again and give it time? I rather take less than more of course.
I do have aromasin I can start.. And clomid (older exp date but never opened), and nolva, same, older, never opened.
Thanks for the responses!

 

[iris]

Why you need bigger balls at 52? are you willing to try other drugs more harsh on your body (like clomid) only for making balls bigger?

Eddie, always the voice of reason.

Eddie's first question needs answering, please.

Is this for cosmetic purposes?
Who is it that likes looking at your balls but does not like the look of them, anyway?
A bit of speculation and it's only Tuesday afternoon.
You guys always provide good material for diversionary thought.

 

[narta]

Why you need bigger balls at 52?

New, younger, girlfriend.

 

[iris]

New, younger, girlfriend.

Did the crystal ball tell you that, or do you have data at hand?

 

[narta]

Did the crystal ball tell you that, or do you have data at hand?

Observation of fellow middle aged men that are going through their midlife crisis. All they talk is new cars, new younger girls and their achievements in bed with said girls.

aka anecdotal evidence

 

[iris]

Observation of fellow middle aged men that are going through their midlife crisis. All they talk is new cars, new younger girls and their achievements in bed with said girls.

aka anecdotal evidence

Sure, no need for a crystall ball.
And not a case of nonconformity.
Young girls don't expect to find shrivelled balls, I suppose.
The same way they don't go for broke middle aged men.
So, to complete the cute little picture you painted for us, Senor Narta, let's hope this guy is also endowed with a good amount of money (or that he can pretend so with a few credit cards at the ready).
Ah, the beauty of young love.

 

[Chris U.]

Others could have the same question as I do. And who wants small balls? lol. Anyhow, should someone in my situation go back to lower dose for longer period of time? And do guys become resistant to HCG and can it be reversed?

 

[McLovin.]

Others could have the same question as I do. And who wants small balls? lol. Anyhow, should someone in my situation go back to lower dose for longer period of time? And do guys become resistant to HCG and can it be reversed?

if youve been shut down for a while it takes more for your body to respond. you'll notice it when your E2 gets high so when you notice that use some aromasin. i still have no idea what you are trying to achieve with taking the HCG other then not have raisin nuts. what to do next would depend on what you are trying to achieve

 

[iris]

Others could have the same question as I do.

Of course, primarily

fellow middle aged men that are going through their midlife crisis

You also engage with an existential question that can also be answered by our
in-house social trends expert

And who wants small balls? lol.

Lol, indeed. Certainly NOT

fellow middle aged men that are going through their midlife crisis. All they talk is new cars, new younger girls and their achievements in bed with said girls.

We are blessed to have someone who provides the answers you don't.

He knows.
Everything.

#sayitlikeitis

 

[narta]

Others could have the same question as I do. And who wants small balls? lol. Anyhow, should someone in my situation go back to lower dose for longer period of time? And do guys become resistant to HCG and can it be reversed?

At that age recovery of ball size and/or fertility (#1 reason to even try recovery) is difficult at best. If it's about size and not function try mega doses of clomid for short period of time with low doses of HCG (250iu x3 per week)

If that doesn't work, I dunno, borrow a pair when needed maybe?