Epi is not a PH. Read what I posted above. It's a designer steroid. It goes into your system just like Dball does or anavar. A PH needs to be converted to work, a steroid does not. Not being crass, you may know this but just in case....@Spooby gave you some great information that shouldn't be ignored. Throw the epi in the trash and if you're too scared to put a needle in your ass you're better off staying natty. I've ran a ph cycle and will never do so again as it was harsh on my body an yielded minimal gains.