Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

[Fautquejyaille]

It's not funny. Look at this and tell me he's mentally well:
"We're on the verge of a civil war here in America between the supporters of the Washington DC establishment and those who oppose the entrenched buerocracy.
Our right to carry and own guns is all that's kept our government from turning into a type of authoritarian despot."
"America is going to go through some changes, possibly even split into a few separate republic's, but at least we'll have another chance to have at least one free Republic again in north America"
"Your Olympus is falling. The barbarians are at the gates and you've fucked over the only people that could keep them from bursting your comfortable little blue bubble. Hallelujah. There is a god and he's smiling"
"I know for a fact that the elements in Washington have as much contempt for me, and American people like me, as they do the Russians or anybody else they hate."
- @Hughinn

us in France it's the same thing except that apart from the hunter we are not allowed to own a weapon and woe if you injure a burglar who has returned to your home. in France we have almost become a third world country but she allows herself to teach African countries a lesson France is only holding on by plundering Africa, but several countries are starting to rebel by asking for help from evil Russia or sneaky China.

 

[Hughinn]

us in France it's the same thing except that apart from the hunter we are not allowed to own a weapon and woe if you injure a burglar who has returned to your home. in France we have almost become a third world country but she allows herself to teach African countries a lesson France is only holding on by plundering Africa, but several countries are starting to rebel by asking for help from evil Russia or sneaky China.

I didn't know you were French my friend.

I'm Cajun.
Bonafide Louisiana Cajun Born here.

Been all over, found myself back home. It's a different place here. Very diverse, Cajun people were basically poor lower working class white Americans to most people in America. We spoke French at home (many still do) and lived in the rural swamps of Louisiana, Mississippi, south Alabama, North Florida and east Texas.

My original family was from new Iberia Louisiana.

nous sommes des Acadiens français qui parlent encore français à la maison et entre nous ici en Louisiane

nos ancêtres sont français et nous nous considérons toujours comme français. Mes meilleures vœux mon ami

We weren't really considered Americans until after ww2 and Vietnam where Cajuns were prized as soldiers in the hot humid jungles because we're used to the heat and humidity lol.

But no Cajun people will ever again fight for Washington.

It's been said that without Texas, Washington would not have a Marine corps.
Without Acadiana, Washington would not have a jungle infantry.

They've lost both

 

[Fautquejyaille]

I didn't know you were French my friend.

I'm Cajun.
Bonafide Louisiana Cajun Born here.

Been all over, found myself back home. It's a different place here. Very diverse, Cajun people were basically poor lower working class white Americans to most people in America. We spoke French at home (many still do) and lived in the rural swamps of Louisiana, Mississippi, south Alabama, North Florida and east Texas.

My original family was from new Iberia Louisiana.

nous sommes des Acadiens français qui parlent encore français à la maison et entre nous ici en Louisiane

nos ancêtres sont français et nous nous considérons toujours comme français. Mes meilleures vœux mon ami

We weren't really considered Americans until after ww2 and Vietnam where Cajuns were prized as soldiers in the hot humid jungles because we're used to the heat and humidity lol.

But no Cajun people will ever again fight for Washington.

Incroyable qu’on pense la même chose sur l’etat du monde actuelle et que tu parle français .et j’adore les epices cajun ça assaisonne super bien les viandes ou les poissons rien que pour ça PROSPÉRITÉ ET LONGUE VIE AUX PEUPLES CAJUNS
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[hometeam]

us in France it's the same thing except that apart from the hunter we are not allowed to own a weapon and woe if you injure a burglar who has returned to your home. in France we have almost become a third world country but she allows herself to teach African countries a lesson France is only holding on by plundering Africa, but several countries are starting to rebel by asking for help from evil Russia or sneaky China.

Well there are crazy people all over. Once you can't distinguish between fantasy and fact driven reality, you get the paranoid schizophrenia and the problems that come with that.

And I don't mean to gaslight, but no one rationally would say Joe Biden is the same as Vladimir Putin. Even Putin wouldn't say that. This is what he told David Cameron in London:
"I know you're a great country with a great history. You all think I'm not democratic like you. I won't argue with you — I'm an ex-KGB man.
I'm wicked and scary with claws and teeth, and you're all so well-bred and so well-educated."

Putin described himself as 'wicked and scary with claws and teeth'

The Prime Minister's former advisor told how the Russian President spoke in a "soft, quiet" voice as he made the strange comments, a new documentary has revealed.

www.express.co.uk

He goes on to say we have dirt under our fingernails too; look at Abu Ghraib. But the point is these are very different people with very different values...one believing in force and control, winners and losers. The other believes in democracy, frozen borders and global prosperity.

Putin wouldn't say they're crushing Ukraine either. He says the war has been difficult and will go on for awhile:

Putin says situation in occupied Ukrainian territories is 'extremely difficult,' in a rare admission the war isn't going well

Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited Ukrainian troops in a city Russia has tried and failed to capture for months.

www.businessinsider.com

As for robbing other countries... what people are spending a lot of money on are cars and iphones. Apple makes $500 on every phone they sell. GM makes $2000 on every car they sell. These don't grow on trees in Africa. And I thought France didn't have colonies in Africa anymore, just some small islands.

 

[Hughinn]

Incroyable qu’on pense la même chose sur l’etat du monde actuelle et que tu parle français .et j’adore les epices cajun ça assaisonne super bien les viandes ou les poissons rien que pour ça PROSPÉRITÉ ET LONGUE VIE AUX PEUPLES CAJUNS
j

Dieu te bénisse toi et ta famille mon ami.

 

[Fautquejyaille]

Dieu te bénisse toi et ta famille mon ami.

Amen .
Que Dieu te bénisse toi et ta famille mon frère
Que Dieu vous protège

 

[hometeam]

Paul Pelosi attacker David DePape says he’s sorry he ‘didn’t get more of them’

The man who broke into then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s home and attacker her husband with a hammer said sorry he “didn’t get more of them.”

nypost.com

Sounds an awful lot like someone on this board:
David DePape, 42, made the chilling remarks in a recorded phone interview with local California station KTVU after the release of police body camera footage on Friday.

“Liberty isn’t dying, it’s being killed systematically and deliberately,” DePape said. “The “people killing it have names and addresses, so I got their names and addresses so I could pay them a little visit … have a heart-to-heart chat about their bad behavior.”

“I want to apologize to everyone. I messed up. What I did was really bad. I’m so sorry I didn’t get more of them."

Attack on Paul Pelosi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"DePape had a history of mental health issues and drug abuse; before the attack, he had embraced various far-right conspiracy theories, including QAnon, Pizzagate, and Donald Trump's false claims of a stolen election in 2020. Online, he made conspiratorial, racist, sexist, and antisemitic posts, and pushed COVID-19 vaccine misinformation. His blog also contained delusional thoughts."
"One acquaintance claimed to have had cut off contact with DePape in 2012 after he displayed megalomaniac behavior and sent her multiple emails likening himself to Jesus Christ."

@Zebedee an internet search finds this:

and:


I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceburg. But this Joe Biden obsession... politics in the US tends to be a trivial thing, whether a democrat wins or republican wins doesn't matter so much because we have checks and balances, a team around them, and we are pretty well off as a country most of the time. Every 4-8 years we get a new President anyway.

You take things so far as to support the Russian invasion, to want Ukraine to lose the war, blame the US for it all, because you hate Joe Biden that much... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That can be a problem. He's not even a very controversial President.

 

[NorthMich]

Thank you

 

[hometeam]

Thank you

Well, he's not the only libertarian I've seen twist the issue like this. I think that's an increasing problem with our politics today: the opposition party goes too far with their opposition, and it doesn't matter which party it is.

This is a prime example. It's not like this issue gets murkier and murkier the more objective/academic stuff you read about it or more experts you listen to. It's pretty much a bipartisan issue. The Putin/Russian side is a pretty weak argument, even in Russia. There's a couple minor arguments to be made but you have to go to these really extreme websites and podcasters to get things that twisted that Russia has the moral high ground and is winning, and you have to wall yourself off from every other perspective because they are all liars.

If you add mental issues, you can easily turn this into an obsession. And you have a louder voice on the internet. I just hope he doesn't break into Hunter Biden's house with a hammer

 

[Hughinn]

American veterans message to zelensky


View: https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1634456889315524608?t=hmJ6Lvhb9UuxxVE6cAyeiQ&s=19

 

[Hughinn]

Well, he's not the only libertarian I've seen twist the issue like this. I think that's an increasing problem with our politics today: the opposition party goes too far with their opposition, and it doesn't matter which party it is.

This is a prime example. It's not like this issue gets murkier and murkier the more objective/academic stuff you read about it or more experts you listen to. It's pretty much a bipartisan issue. The Putin/Russian side is a pretty weak argument, even in Russia. There's a couple minor arguments to be made but you have to go to these really extreme websites and podcasters to get things that twisted that Russia has the moral high ground and is winning, and you have to wall yourself off from every other perspective because they are all liars.

If you add mental issues, you can easily turn this into an obsession. And you have a louder voice on the internet. I just hope he doesn't break into Hunter Biden's house with a hammer

Lmfao

It must really suck to be a nutless bitch like you.

 

[Hughinn]

Nobody here "supports the Russian invasion"

And recognizing that there are more players in this matter that bear some of the responsibility for this terrible war other than Putin, doesn't mean you condone Putin. It means that you're not stupid enough to buy the bullshit fairytales the mainstream media is pumping out.

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Many in Washington have been making money off that corruption and suddenly we're supposed to believe that Ukraine is some shining beacon of democracy on a hill. It's not.

Ukraine is very arguably more authoritarian than Russia in many ways.

And being against supporting a war between two corrupt Eastern European ogliarchies to weaken them and enrich Washington doesn't mean you're anti American.

It takes a really stupid person to believe that a war eight years in the making by bad policies and intervention in foreign countries suddenly started without warning because of a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain bent on world domination.

It takes an even stupider person to believe there are "good guys vs bad guys" angles to a complex situation where everyone is at fault

And it takes an absolute brainless idiot to support sending billions of dollars of American taxpayers money into a cesspool like Ukraine with absolutely no way to know where it's going and into who's pockets is it winding up.

 

[hometeam]

Nobody here "supports the Russian invasion"

And recognizing that there are more players in this matter that bear some of the responsibility for this terrible war other than Putin, doesn't mean you condone Putin. It means that you're not stupid enough to buy the bullshit fairytales the mainstream media is pumping out.

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Many in Washington have been making money off that corruption and suddenly we're supposed to believe that Ukraine is some shining beacon of democracy on a hill. It's not.

Ukraine is very arguably more authoritarian than Russia in many ways.

And being against supporting a war between two corrupt Eastern European ogliarchies to weaken them and enrich Washington doesn't mean you're anti American.

It takes a really stupid person to believe that a war eight years in the making by bad policies and intervention in foreign countries suddenly started without warning because of a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain bent on world domination.

It takes an even stupider person to believe there are "good guys vs bad guys" angles to a complex situation where everyone is at fault

And it takes an absolute brainless idiot to support sending billions of dollars of American taxpayers money into a cesspool like Ukraine with absolutely no way to know where it's going and into who's pockets is it winding up.

There's 3 legitimate arguments being made about Ukraine right now:
1)The realist vs idealist debate. Realists say NATO expansion was seen as a threat by Putin. Idealists say sovereign countries get to pick the group they belong to, not their stronger neighbors.
2)Something's shady about the Victoria Nuland phone call and money spent in Ukraine.
3)This shouldn't be our focus, or what we spend our money on.

They are rational arguments. There are counter-arguments too: Ukraine wasn't getting into NATO, none of that justifies an invasion, we don't know for sure what (if anything) the State Dept has improperly done in Ukraine, we shouldn't ignore Russian imperialism/expansion, aid is affordable and now that we're involved we have to win.

And you're entitled to agree or disagree, but most people agree with sending Ukraine aid, though support has been softening with republicans (the opposition party):


The problem is when you come up with these conspiracies you have no proof of (in fact there's proof to the contrary) and talk about it like it's known to be certain when it's not. Such as the Biden administration wanting this war all along, setting things in motion in a way that it was unavoidable, and doing nothing to prevent it, being the only thing in the way of a peace agreement. The problem is when you hate Biden so much you start to like Putin (or make excuses for him.)

Lmfao

It must really suck to be a nutless bitch like you.

I get it. You've been at this hard, almost like a full time job, for at least a couple years now. I count at least 6,000 online posts mostly about Biden, and I'm sure you post under other monikers too because you're unstable and insult people, threaten to find people in person and beat them up, use ugly words and so you keep getting banned.


This isn't a healthy hobby for you where you're learning more about the world and you're participating in fun vigorous debates. You're seeking out anti-Biden stuff so extreme so obsessively that you think the country is collapsing, our liberty is threatened, the world is ending. It's all fantasy not reality, and when you believe that to your core and angrily try to convince others when it's obvious you're not well, that's scary.

 

[hometeam]

War is a very bad thing but this is more about Joe Biden for you than the war. It's just all so angry, negative, pessimistic and delusional that you might want to find something more happy and constructive to do. And that's all I'll say about it unless you want to PM.

 

[Hughinn]

There's 3 legitimate arguments being made about Ukraine right now:
1)The realist vs idealist debate. Realists say NATO expansion was seen as a threat by Putin. Idealists say sovereign countries get to pick the group they belong to, not their stronger neighbors.
2)Something's shady about the Victoria Nuland phone call and money spent in Ukraine.
3)This shouldn't be our focus, or what we spend our money on.

They are rational arguments. There are counter-arguments too: Ukraine wasn't getting into NATO, none of that justifies an invasion, we don't know for sure what (if anything) the State Dept has improperly done in Ukraine, we shouldn't ignore Russian imperialism/expansion, aid is affordable and now that we're involved we have to win.

And you're entitled to agree or disagree, but most people agree with sending Ukraine aid, though support has been softening with republicans (the opposition party):
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The problem is when you come up with these conspiracies you have no proof of (in fact there's proof to the contrary) and talk about it like it's known to be certain when it's not. Such as the Biden administration wanting this war all along, setting things in motion in a way that it was unavoidable, and doing nothing to prevent it, being the only thing in the way of a peace agreement. The problem is when you hate Biden so much you start to like Putin (or make excuses for him.)


I get it. You've been at this hard, almost like a full time job, for at least a couple years now. I count at least 6,000 online posts mostly about Biden, and I'm sure you post under other monikers too because you're unstable and insult people, threaten to find people in person and beat them up, use ugly words and so you keep getting banned.
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This isn't a healthy hobby for you where you're learning more about the world and you're participating in fun vigorous debates. You're seeking out anti-Biden stuff so extreme so obsessively that you think the country is collapsing, our liberty is threatened, the world is ending. It's all fantasy not reality, and when you believe that to your core and angrily try to convince others when it's obvious you're not well, that's scary.

Lmfao

Now you're cyber stalking me?

Because I don't buy your BS and have shown you to be completely full of shit?

You're a liar, a joke, you sound just like CNN. Nobody buys that BS either.

I don't care what you think.

I don't like you anymore than you do me. I find you a grotesque person of cowardice and inconceivable stupidity.

I'm putting you on ignore. Like I've been advised to

You've lost the debates badly and have contradicted yourself and generally made yourself look stupid repeatedly.

Now you're just getting creepy. Turning into some kind of snitch assed bitch pleading with people to believe I'm some kind of psycho because I don't buy your bullshit.

Goodbye, I'm done with you

 

[Hughinn]

This is a retired colonel with a very clear and practical opinion on the ukranian situation

Well worth listening to



View: https://youtu.be/YwIc4cPWdEs

 

[hometeam]

This is a retired colonel with a very clear and practical opinion on the ukranian situation

Well worth listening to



View: https://youtu.be/YwIc4cPWdEs

Yeah I've seen him and I'm sure @falseprophet09 has too. A libertarian Colonel, notice the emphasis on "Colonel." He's the minority contrarian view. I don't think there's another person who held his rank or above in any military who agrees with him. And he's angry with the US military because he kept criticizing them, in fact he wrote books criticizing them, and they wouldn't promote him.

He said initially Russia would steamroll Ukraine (like everyone else thought), then he said Russia would occupy all of Ukraine by October, then he said March, now I'm not sure what he's saying the timeline will be but "Russia really is as strong as we thought they were" is a hill he's willing to die on. He said no way possible Ukraine would take Kherson.

On the other hand you've got former General Ben Hodges who say Ukraine will liberate Crimea by August:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Qh6d3Lrtg
He was commander of NATO's Allied Land Command and was in command of United States Army Europe. He's changed his timeline too, it was originally October then March and now August.

The fact is both of these people are the minority contrarian view. And General Bakshi of India is neutral, unbiased, definitely not CNN.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqHuvl9J-v4

He says it's a symmetrical war and a stalemate. Almost anyone who knows what they're talking about would agree with him.

 

[Fautquejyaille]

American veterans message to zelensky


View: https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1634456889315524608?t=hmJ6Lvhb9UuxxVE6cAyeiQ&s=19

God bless him

 

[Zebedee]

@Zebedee an internet search finds this:
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and:
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I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceburg. But this Joe Biden obsession... politics in the US tends to be a trivial thing, whether a democrat wins or republican wins doesn't matter so much because we have checks and balances, a team around them, and we are pretty well off as a country most of the time. Every 4-8 years we get a new President anyway.

You take things so far as to support the Russian invasion, to want Ukraine to lose the war, blame the US for it all, because you hate Joe Biden that much... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That can be a problem. He's not even a very controversial President.

Yeah I’ve already seen his nonsense elsewhere. I remember his very first post here, a thread ranting about “liberals”.

He’s the ultimate DYEL - he has no interest whatsoever in discussing training, nutrition, AAS, harm reduction etc - just rants about Biden / Democrats / “liberals”. It’s a testament to how badly the Meso member ranking system needed overhauling that this clown managed to obtain an Elite / WKM tag rank despite posting literally fuck-all related to training etc. At least @Millard has now removed the ability to Like in this sub-forum, so this shouldn’t ever happen again.

Why the fuck anyone would join bodybuilding forums to post political stuff exclusively is beyond me. It’s just weird & a bit sad.

Anyway, IMO he’s an aggressively overbearing, self opinionated, ignorant, hate-filled & bigoted neo-confederate fanatic & one of the most obnoxious cunts I’ve come across in 20+ years on bb’ing forums.

That said, I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s best ignored. Try & debate with him & you breathe life into threads that would otherwise be just him ranting & thus ignored by pretty much everyone.

 

[Hughinn]

Saying that the war in Ukraine is a product of a long history of US intervention into foreign politics and monetary interests is not "a conspiracy theory". It's a demonstrable fact.

Pretending like this war started totally by surprise for the only reason of a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain bent on world domination is just as stupid as it sounds.

And it's not any less stupid just because CNN MSNBC and DNC propoganda networks are willing to say it. In fact, it's shocking that there are so many stupid people like @Zebedee who believe it.

The real tragedy here is that there's enough stupid people like those mentioned, to support such asanine and destructive policies as starting proxy wars for profit against nuclear armed adversaries thinking they're going to roll over and give up thier own futures. Or as stupid people like @Zebedee howled during the killing of millions of Iraqi people, it was necessary because "they hated our freedom". Which is also just as stupid as it sounds. But some people will believe anything the television tells them

Furthermore, this stupidity enables a corrupt regime to propagate human death and suffering on a monumental scale for it's own benifit without fear of public backlash by sensible people who don't want to see war and strife. Because the regime can simply unleash such stupidity on a massive scale to drown out any reason.

Lastly, saying this war is the fault of many different people and interests, Washington not just included, but specifically is not a conspiracy theory. It's a historical fact

Saying that Joe Biden personally was bribed by Ukrainian ogliarchs and has participated personally in this matter every step of the way is not a conspiracy theory. It's a documented fact

Assigning blame for the human suffering and death to all parties involved and not just "Putin" doesn't make a person a "Putin apologist". It makes a person reasonable

And wanting the war over as fast as possible, no matter how it ends, to stop further death and suffering is not "wanting Russia to win". It's wanting to end suffering

Stupid people, will be stupid people.

So bleat like sheep you stupid bastards.

May God have mercy on you