People thought about it and decided they didn't much care for that idea.
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Russia begins invasion of Ukraine
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Zerg
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Right, because the people had a say. They don't have an all volunteer army you do what your told or else.
There are no good guys, neither Russia or Ukraine.
It's pointless to fight this war. It's better to stop funding them on every level. Tell them it's over and to get back to work building the country and for Russia to get back to selling oil and gas.
What good does it do America if we allow ourselves to be brought to our knees with our economy flushed down the toilet so globalist can restructure our debt and buy us up for pennies on the dollar.
Nationalism works in situations like this when you have the right people that care about "all" people and not just the banker parasite class.
Actually you're more right than you might know Paul.
It just depends on which people you're talking about.
Because the US state department has overthrown the elected Ukrainian government twice in the past 10 years. 4 times since 2003 because they kept electing the wrong people. Did you know that by chance?
Shit, in 2010 they re elected the very government the US overthrew in 2004. Literally, the same people the US state department overthrew we're re elected.
Until 2014, when the US state department overthrew the Ukrainian government for the third time, and then triggered a civil war in Donbass. That eliminated the ethnic Russian minority from voting since and that led to the government in Ukraine today.
I politely challenge you to refute any of that.
So it just depends on which people you're talking about.
If you ask me, I don't see any reason for the US state department to go around toppling governments in order for corporate interests to have more favorable conditions to exploit local resources, but shit, that's just my opinion.
You know y'all, I think it fair to let y'all know that I'm a Cajun.
A Louisiana greybeard.
So my perspective is just different than my friend @Big_paul that's all. I respect his opinions though.
I mean damn. I been to the empire state once and jersey twice during my years as a traveling tradesman. I didn't leave nothing there and I ain't interested in going back.
Cajun people in general and Louisiana sorta weren't even considered part of the empire for most of it's history.
It wasn't really till after WW 2 and then Vietnam that Cajuns were really accepted. And that's because the hot tropical weather of Vietnam and the south Pacific didn't bother us so much. So the empire suddenly had a use for southern boys. Cannon fodder they call it. From the Mississippi Delta black guys to the Louisiana Cajun people to the Hispanic boys of south Texas
But I say enough is enough.
Enough southern boys dying for an empire that reminds us they hate us every chance they get.
That goes for our Yankee brothers in Michigan, Massachusetts and Indiana too
View: https://youtu.be/N7qkQewyubs
A Louisiana greybeard.
So my perspective is just different than my friend @Big_paul that's all. I respect his opinions though.
I mean damn. I been to the empire state once and jersey twice during my years as a traveling tradesman. I didn't leave nothing there and I ain't interested in going back.
Cajun people in general and Louisiana sorta weren't even considered part of the empire for most of it's history.
It wasn't really till after WW 2 and then Vietnam that Cajuns were really accepted. And that's because the hot tropical weather of Vietnam and the south Pacific didn't bother us so much. So the empire suddenly had a use for southern boys. Cannon fodder they call it. From the Mississippi Delta black guys to the Louisiana Cajun people to the Hispanic boys of south Texas
But I say enough is enough.
Enough southern boys dying for an empire that reminds us they hate us every chance they get.
That goes for our Yankee brothers in Michigan, Massachusetts and Indiana too
View: https://youtu.be/N7qkQewyubs
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It's pretty hard to imagine what kind of hope the Ukrainian people have for any sort of independence now.
Their country has been pounded into rubble. Large parts of it are now occupied, probably permanently.
And now they're deep in debt to the most corrupt, greedy, malevolent and vindictive politicians on the planet.
I don't know who wins this war. Whether it's Joe Biden and his globalist billionaire corporate donors and NATO armed manufacturers, or Russia.
But I do know the Ukrainian people have already lost.
And it didn't have to come to this.
This is Zelenskys future
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One more thing...
There's a reason you don't see high profile democrat party politicians calling to import hundreds of thousands of poor ukranian refugees. Like the democrat party god king Obama did during the civil war in Sudan or the conflict in Somali. Or the insistence of a wide open border for south American people.
And that's because the Ukrainian people are Eastern European. And well versed in the ideas of communism and it's practice. Therefore they're highly unlikely to support the interests of the democrat party.
So they'll howl and wail and post ukranian flags in their bios.
But they don't want them here. A ukranian American community in Baltimore or Pittsburgh could really fuck them up on the electoral map. And they know it
Let that sink in...
There's a reason you don't see high profile democrat party politicians calling to import hundreds of thousands of poor ukranian refugees. Like the democrat party god king Obama did during the civil war in Sudan or the conflict in Somali. Or the insistence of a wide open border for south American people.
And that's because the Ukrainian people are Eastern European. And well versed in the ideas of communism and it's practice. Therefore they're highly unlikely to support the interests of the democrat party.
So they'll howl and wail and post ukranian flags in their bios.
But they don't want them here. A ukranian American community in Baltimore or Pittsburgh could really fuck them up on the electoral map. And they know it
Let that sink in...
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Ultimately it's the plan and has been for long before you and me ever existed to destroy the European man wherever he lives.
It's obvious the Banker Caste holds a great deal of jealously of the West and fear of them at the same time. What better way to destroy them then to fund wars, supply them with weapons and have them kill each other.
We used to have knowledge of this plan more than a hundred years ago, you could read in the many writings of many common and great men that built this country, they knew the government if you let them would send them off to war to die instead of doing what is right working to build the future. At some point that knowledge was considered conspiracy, seditious, outlandish, criminal, hatred, bigotry, unpatriotic.
There was a point and it was probably WW2 that men and women in this country turned off their brains and did as their masters told them to unleash war, slaughtering 80 million of their own and not even stopping to recognize what they were doing to their brothers and sisters.
Today no one questions the war machine, they carry on with death and destruction as if there was no other option, as if it was just apart of nature to butcher ourselves.
Hightower
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In fact, yes, another such controlled person has appeared. Ukraine is mired in corruption.
The whole one humankind idea only works if everyone plays by the same rules.
Unfortunately, nobody else does, or is expected to except western whites.
Everyone else is encouraged to fight for their own
This is going to wind up very bad for us, but also for African American people.
Because you can convince white liberals that African American disparities are the results of slavery hundreds of years ago. But the people who will soon be running things we're not a part of that history and are not going to buy it.
They'll be displaced just like they have been in southern California by other immigrants.
The history of the descendants of white European American people and African Americans is unique here. And that dynamic will soon be gone.
2/3 to 3/4 of all white settlers who came to America before the civil war came here in chains. Just like the Africans. It was the same class caste system that victimized both and got us later on to blame each other.
And it's the same people today fueling and extending that animosity to other groups who'll soon be harnessed with same yolk until we all wise up
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Imagine if children were actually taught the truth about slavery.
If they were aware of the fact that 2/3 to 3/4 of white colonial Americans of English, Irish, Scottish and Dutch people were also brought here in chains. That they also were the descendants of forced servitude.
And American children truly understood that the system of slavery in America had been tested, and fine tuned as an institution well before the first African Americans ever landed in America. Because it had been enslaving poor European people and native Americans for nearly a century prior.
Suddenly, the idea that people with certain skin color are victims and others oppressors would disappear.
And all that's necessary is to tell the truth.
Over a half a million, European people were sent to the Caribbean alone to slave on plantations.
By the 18th century in the American colonies "indentured servants" i.e temporary slaves easily outnumbered the African American numbers vastly.
If we told the truth. There would no reason to hate. But, that's the whole reason we're not told the truth
If they were aware of the fact that 2/3 to 3/4 of white colonial Americans of English, Irish, Scottish and Dutch people were also brought here in chains. That they also were the descendants of forced servitude.
And American children truly understood that the system of slavery in America had been tested, and fine tuned as an institution well before the first African Americans ever landed in America. Because it had been enslaving poor European people and native Americans for nearly a century prior.
Suddenly, the idea that people with certain skin color are victims and others oppressors would disappear.
And all that's necessary is to tell the truth.
Over a half a million, European people were sent to the Caribbean alone to slave on plantations.
By the 18th century in the American colonies "indentured servants" i.e temporary slaves easily outnumbered the African American numbers vastly.
If we told the truth. There would no reason to hate. But, that's the whole reason we're not told the truth
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I said we would agree in most instances politically and I believe that. We have differences and my photo would be of trump.
On a different subject, I like Cajuns.Most of my family that I care to stay in touch with live in Southeast Texas and Mississippi. I lived in Mississippi for 4 years. I visit a couple times a year. We don't discuss politics.
Hightower
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Zelensky destroys his people with his actions. It is obvious. While the big uncles are measuring their muscles, the people are simply dying and forced to suffer.
Hightower
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Sometimes it is useful not to discuss politics with relatives and friends. This is the key to peace in the family. My wife and I do not talk about politics, we have such a rule
Slavery has been felt by all races, that said in a society like this where individuality is championed(to divide and conquer) and failure is looked down upon, blacks won't see themselves as a success.
There's always gonna be great blacks that are looked up to, but like most things in America it ignores the grim reality of most blacks in this country.
First thing that has to be tackled with blacks is violent crime. If a person does nothing else in life you have to keep your hands to yourself and off others property. Just do that your entire life and you will be better off almost overnight.
The rest of the stuff of working 12hrs a day, going to school, constantly moving ahead. I don't think most people are cut out for that and I don't see why the blacks should pretend they are either. It would be better for them to go at life at their own pace and don't worry so much about accumulating wealth and material success. That said the violence has to come to an end, I don't know how they get there, but that has to happen first, because a society that has no trust can't function. High trust societies typically do well, look at the Japanese.
Well, we may be on verge of nuclear war at worst, or going broke funding corrupt wars for profit.
We might be deep in debt and going poor with inflation.
We might not be able to put gas in our cars, or food on our tables.
We might be giving up our rights to globalist organizations like the WHO
But hey, at least you don't have to see mean tweets and a bad orange man on TV Paul.
Because my god, look at the damage that could do to our country.
I'm glad you've got that figured out. I'm glad our country doesn't have to suffer or face needless wars....oops
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You have the older generations that picked the low hanging fruit and got the good stuff with less effort.
So that older generation is gonna pay dearly for not handing their wealth over to the younger generation that has more educational achievement than prior generations and feel they should occupy the highest positions and take over asap because modern day meritocracy is entirely based on credentialism in the modern day bureaucratic workforce.
Without doing as these kids demand, the politics in this country will continue to be sadist.
It only makes sense to pay off these kids to the tune of probably $2 trillion to get rid of their student debt. Otherwise they are gonna unleash a political hell and drag this country into the gutter as massive numbers of baby boomers vote for their own wants and needs and continue to thumb their nose at the younger people who were dumb enough to sink themselves into massive student loan debt instead of figuring out a way to make a living without falling for the scam of credentialism.
Until you give these kids what they want, they will do everything in their power to destroy this country because at this point they have nothing to lose other than their $100K student loan debt that they'll spend the next 30 years paying off. Would you care about a country if your entire existence was for nothing other than servicing debt because society told you that you were nothing and could be nothing without stacks of diplomas?
So we might be heading towards a nihilist phase in our countries evolution as the baby boomers kill off and we have these young generation that doesn't give a shit about anyone but themselves.
Without the younger generation on board with returning America to a sane country that provides the basic needs of its citizens we instead will get them onboard with green energy that will collapse our society and provide them an excuse to walk away from their massive debt load. Otherwise if we just allow it to kind of waft around in this steady state economy where they will be expected to go to work and pay off debt, they're gonna hate this. It's all or nothing for the younger generation, you either pay off their debt or they're gonna do what they can to see the country burn.
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Sounds like we both have it figured out. The challenge now is to convince the dozen or so people who will actually read this and care what we have to say.
Time to move onto the truly important things in life that can't wait. I have to mow the my yard.
malfeasance
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LOL! Have a good weekend.
