Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

[hometeam]

nor am I pro Putin or anybody else.

"Well, Putin isn't wrong is he? Because the US has invaded multiple countries with arrogance, exceptionalism and impunity. Never facing consequences. How is what he said not the truth dumbass?"
"This guy is not Satan or Stalin.
And he does make sense"
"western banks and the international monetary fund created the environment that led to the ogliarchy in Russia, they made it legal not Putin. He came well afterwards The real thing Putin did was expel those ogliarchs that wouldn't get on board with the Russian national interests."
"You're basically making the exact stupid ass argument I told everyone here you would eventually make "Putin is a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain bent on world domination"
Because that's literally all you've got. It's stupid and childish.
Putin is a ruthless dude, but he's not Joseph Stalin."
-Hughinn

https://twitter.com/hughinn

 

[GuerillaPete]

Capitalism against communism =New world order
Thesis. And. Antithesis = Synthesis

Just like in world war 2 both sides sponsored by the same people.
They want a war so ugly that people leave differences aside and come together under one religion that is a mix of all religions lead by the Antichrist.
This could be it boys buckle up.

 

[hometeam]

But I've read Aristotle, Hume, sun Tzu and even Trotsky.

If anyone in America has ever heard of Trotsky, it's because the KGB assassinated him in Mexico in 1940 and Americans thought it was a dick move to come to our continent and do that, much like the British thought about the polonium poisoning of Litvinenko on their soil much more recently. But you're comparing him to Joe Biden here, something only a Russian would do.

For the most part we don't think about, study, or care about Russia here anymore, unless they make us. And they make us because they still want to think of themselves as this great power, and the greatest power having to deal with them feeds into that.

Julia Ioffe talks about that here:

View: https://youtu.be/qEu0oRajJxE?t=1430

It’s so interesting because he perceives this threat. He perceives that America is a threat to Russia, is a threat to him, that the U.S. is organizing demonstrations in other countries that are undermining his power. And in America it seems like there’s not even a sense that Russia is a threat.

"Remember 2007, our obsession was terrorism; our obsession was the Middle East. In every university, everybody was trying to learn Arabic. Everybody wanted to be a terrorism specialist and a Middle East specialist in Washington. That was the focus of all of our foreign policy, all of our national security. And nobody cared about Russia; Russia was a forgotten backwater. It was a joke. If anybody said that Russia was a security threat, they would have been laughed at.

You know, I graduated college in 2005, four years after 9/11, which happened during my freshman orientation, and I chose to study Soviet history; I wanted to focus on Russia. And I remember my parents saying, “Why? It’s an irrelevant country. It’s a country without a future. You will find no work, ever, focusing on Russia. That’s not where things are going in the world,” right?" -Ioffe

 

[Hughinn]

Washington is on the East Coast, dummy. And the whole country felt terrorized that day. You're trying to tell us what's going on in America even though you don't have the slightest clue other than the conspiracies Putin and your state run media drum up about us, because as Yale professor Snyder says:
"American enmity, the idea that America’s trying to hurt Russia, gives Russia a sense of meaning, whereas Americans absolutely do not need Russia for their sense of themselves." -Snyder

And yet, it was "Russia phobia" driven by insane Washington propoganda outlets that told Americans for years lies, like the DNC leaks were "Russian hackers". A lie by Washington State run media

"Russian collusion" lies driven by dishonest partisan Washington insiders and propagated by Washington propoganda networks

"Russian interference" in the 2016 election, another lie disseminated by Washington insiders and propagated by dishonest partisan propoganda networks.

The facts just don't support Snyder's bullshit.

Or yours.

Basically, Washington needs the Russian Boogeyman not only to justify it's involvement in corrupt Eastern European ogliarchies, but also to legitimize itself and it's actions in the world.

And that common sense rational observation.

Not copy and pasted bullshit from a Washington swamp rat propagandist

 

[Hughinn]

If anyone in America has ever heard of Trotsky, it's because the KGB assassinated him in Mexico in 1940 and Americans thought it was a dick move to come to our continent and do that, much like the British thought about the polonium poisoning of Litvinenko on their soil much more recently. But you're comparing him to Joe Biden here, something only a Russian would do.

For the most part we don't think about, study, or care about Russia here anymore, unless they make us. And they make us because they still want to think of themselves as this great power, and the greatest power having to deal with them feeds into that.

Julia Ioffe talks about that here:

View: https://youtu.be/qEu0oRajJxE?t=1430

It’s so interesting because he perceives this threat. He perceives that America is a threat to Russia, is a threat to him, that the U.S. is organizing demonstrations in other countries that are undermining his power. And in America it seems like there’s not even a sense that Russia is a threat.

"Remember 2007, our obsession was terrorism; our obsession was the Middle East. In every university, everybody was trying to learn Arabic. Everybody wanted to be a terrorism specialist and a Middle East specialist in Washington. That was the focus of all of our foreign policy, all of our national security. And nobody cared about Russia; Russia was a forgotten backwater. It was a joke. If anybody said that Russia was a security threat, they would have been laughed at.

You know, I graduated college in 2005, four years after 9/11, which happened during my freshman orientation, and I chose to study Soviet history; I wanted to focus on Russia. And I remember my parents saying, “Why? It’s an irrelevant country. It’s a country without a future. You will find no work, ever, focusing on Russia. That’s not where things are going in the world,” right?" -Ioffe

Lmfao.

In other words, you're in disbelief that a working class Louisiana redneck has studied political science and philosophy that an "educated liberal" has no clue about.

Fact is anyone who bothers to study philosophy and political science will come across Trotsky, Marx and lennin.

Just like Rene Girard, Tolstoy, David Hume, Kant and rand.

You see, I don't need CNN to tell me what to think.

Washington DC is not representative of typical Americans.

Those elites and people like yourself are making a serious error thinking that we're stupid and gullible just because we live simply and work with our hands.

Just like they treated Russia as a joke and felt they could bully them around, the reality of it is setting in that you can't.

Just like thinking you can confuse and beguile the American people, your finding out now that your wrong.

The avalanche has just started.

 

[Hughinn]

@hometeam I'm seeing it now.

I scare the hell out of you. And what's worse, your beginning to realize there are millions more Americans just like me all over the country from rural backwaters, bayous, mountains and forest clearings.

And we've got one thing in common.

We're fed up with people like you and the status quo.

 

[hometeam]

And yet, it was "Russia phobia" driven by insane Washington propoganda outlets that told Americans for years lies, like the DNC leaks were "Russian hackers". A lie by Washington State run media

"Russian collusion" lies driven by dishonest partisan Washington insiders and propagated by Washington propoganda networks

"Russian interference" in the 2016 election, another lie disseminated by Washington insiders and propagated by dishonest partisan propoganda networks.

Yale history professor and Russia expert Snyder talks about that here too:
"We only react to Russia when we absolutely have to. I mean, we reacted very, very late and very, very weak to the Russian intervention in the American election in 2016. When Mitt Romney said, when he was campaigning against Barack Obama, that Russia was a serious threat, everyone laughed at him except the Russians, who kind of liked to think that they were a serious threat. When Obama says that Russia doesn’t matter because it’s only a regional economy and so on, he’s saying something which to the Russians is absolutely incomprehensible" -Snyder

Seriously, unlike you I actually live in America. I know you're a guitar instructor in Moscow, used to live in Krasnador by Crimea. And Russia was the furthest thing from my mind (and Washington's mind) until they invaded their European neighbor and we started seeing all these deaths. And you're a Russian who put together this online rural Louisiana persona (who apparently studies Trotsky) to spread Russian propaganda to the American public (Huginn being Odin's messenger bird.) That just proves Snyder's point:
"The Russians are systematically wrong about how much attention Americans pay to Russia. The Russians think about America all the time. Americans only think about Russia when they have to." -Snyder

 

[Hughinn]

Yale history professor and Russia expert Snyder talks about that here too:
"We only react to Russia when we absolutely have to. I mean, we reacted very, very late and very, very weak to the Russian intervention in the American election in 2016. When Mitt Romney said, when he was campaigning against Barack Obama, that Russia was a serious threat, everyone laughed at him except the Russians, who kind of liked to think that they were a serious threat. When Obama says that Russia doesn’t matter because it’s only a regional economy and so on, he’s saying something which to the Russians is absolutely incomprehensible" -Snyder

Seriously, unlike you I actually live in America. I know you're a guitar instructor in Moscow, used to live in Krasnador by Crimea. And Russia was the furthest thing from my mind (and Washington's mind) until they invaded their European neighbor and we started seeing all these deaths. And you're a Russian who put together this online rural Louisiana persona (who apparently studies Trotsky) to spread Russian propaganda to the American public (Huginn being Odin's messenger bird.) That just proves Snyder's point:
"The Russians are systematically wrong about how much attention Americans pay to Russia. The Russians think about America all the time. Americans only think about Russia when they have to." -Snyder

Lmfao

Hughinn is not a messenger bird. It's name translates to"thought" in Norse. Part of a pair with another Raven named munnin "memory"

It has nothing to do with Russia. It's Nordic mythology.

I like the moniker because hughinn fly's over the world to observe and think about what he sees. This way both thought and memory are relayed so that both sides can be considered.

I was told a lot of this mythology by my father as bedtime stories like many other rural American children of my generation we heard stories of zuess and Apollo, Odin and Thor, Athena and Freya. Dieties and mythology of our ancestors and the stories behind the history.

And also Paul Bunyan, John Henry, Davy Crockett and Kit Carson.
Blue collar Americans and heroes of working class Americans who lived and conducted themselves the way men should.

All part of rural America asshole. Part of a people you fear and loathe.

We were taught that manhood is a good thing. That candor and fortitude were good traits for a man to have. Being deceptive, deceitful and cowardly were shameful and always led to bad fortunes.

Which was the lesson of those stories.

Hughinn is handle from that childhood.

Dingus McGhee is the other handle and is my own idea of parody on my rural American roots.

You just can't handle that a rural American redneck from Louisiana is better read and smarter than you.

It scares the hell out of you and you know it.

But if you'd ever bothered to sit and listen to rural American people, you'd realize there are millions of us. And we're not stupid

 

[hometeam]

Lmfao

Hughinn is not a messenger bird. It's name translates to"thought" in Norse. Part of a pair with another Raven named munnin "memory"

Huginn is Odins thought being sent to the shamans.

It has nothing to do with Russia. It's Nordic mythology.

I like the moniker because hughinn fly's over the world to observe and think about what he sees. This way both thought and memory are relayed so that both sides can be considered.

As a kid in America, sure you might read about Thor, Zeus, Achilles and Hercules but not Huginn and Muninn. Not in a cajun community. If you did it wouldn't stick with you until your 50s. Now, in Russia the slavs and norse intermingled for centuries.

You just can't handle that a rural American redneck from Louisiana is better read and smarter than you.

Someone who says we went to Afghanistan to fly a gay pride flag is not smarter than me, it shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what America is and who Americans are.

The same goes for America's economy being driven by it's strong currency and not the other way around. Or that we're only wealthy because we plunder poor countries. Or that we try to rule the world like gods rather than just influence it for the better. That we're behind every protest in the world or every color revolution. That Russia has always been our top priority and we think about them 24/7. That Biden controls the press like Putin does, that he has corporate handlers who tell him what to do and we are no more democratic than Russia. That anyone who says what you hear in the American mainstream news is a propagandist or part of Washington's inner circle. That the world is turning against us. That Russia and America are somehow still peers. That our troops would never be able to fight a peer.

At first I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're a hardcore brainwashed, cultish libertarian of the opposition party. You've got the English language down pretty good. But these are statements that anyone who lives in America can tell you with even a basic understanding of our country is fundamentally not true. These are just dark conspiracies and nightmarish fairy tales about America that Putin's regime and Russia's state media feeds you.

 

[Fautquejyaille]

Oh really ?

So you can tell us all some other reason we spent twenty years, killed hundreds of thousands of people spent trillions of dollars to "liberate" the Afghan people from the "evil, facists, dictator, Nazi and homophobic Taliban" just to replace the Taliban with......the Taliban.

Or are we going to blame the Taliban (others) for that failure?

Correct

 

[hometeam]

Correct

Oh yes now you've got your sock puppet out... the guy who says France plunders Africa like we plundered Afghanistan.

btw, only a Russian would say "Nazi and homophobic Taliban"

 

[hometeam]

‘Troll factory’ spreading Russian pro-war lies online, says UK

St Petersburg outfit hijacks discussions on Twitter, TikTok, world leaders’ social accounts and media websites, as well as manipulating opinion polls

www.theguardian.com

Russian internet trolls based in an old arms factory in St Petersburg are targeting world leaders online and spreading support for Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, the British government has said, citing research.

Online operatives were found to be ordering followers to target western media outlets and politicians, according to research funded by the UK government, which plans to share it with major online platforms and other governments.

The troll factory is suspected to be linked to Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Internet Research Agency accused of meddling in the 2016 election that saw Donald Trump win the presidency. The headquarters is allegedly located in rented space in St Petersburg’s Arsenal Machine-building Factory, a company that manufactures military equipment and technology.

The study details how the Russian president’s regime is trying to manipulate public opinion on social media, as well as in the comments sections of major media outlets.

Targets include the social media accounts of Boris Johnson, the British prime minister; the German chancellor, Olaf Scholz; and the EU foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell.

The research said TikTok influencers were being paid to amplify pro-Kremlin narratives. Operatives also amplified genuine messages by legitimate social media users that happen to be consistent with the Kremlin’s viewpoint – seemingly to evade social media platforms’ measures to combat disinformation.

The troll farm is said to recruit and hire salaried workers openly, justifying the work as “patriotic activity” in support of the “special military operation” in Ukraine.

 

[hometeam]

Russia’s Infamous ‘Troll Factory’ Is Now Posing as a Media Empire

Russia’s infamous troll factory — the most successful weapon in its information war arsenal — has rebranded itself as an emerging media conglomerate, an investigation by the Russian news website RBC has revealed.The secretive troll factory, which garnered massive scrutiny from news organizations...

www.themoscowtimes.com

Russia’s infamous troll factory — the most successful weapon in its information war arsenal — has rebranded itself as an emerging media conglomerate, an investigation by the Russian news website RBC has revealed.

The secretive troll factory, which garnered massive scrutiny from news organizations both at home and abroad in the past two years, now consists of several websites that produce original reporting and analysis with a strong “patriotic” slant, RBC reported.

The hub of these media operations is a website called FAN (Federal News Agency) whose offices in St. Petersburg are just a stone’s throw from the troll factory’s original location on Savushkina street.

Today, FAN forms the core of a media empire consisting of 16 news websites. Collectively, they employ over 200 full-time journalists and editors whose content attracts more that 30 million pageviews every month.

The monthly cost of running FAN and its sister sites is in the area of 20 million rubles ($350,000), RBC estimates. The source of the funding is unclear too, but most of the websites in the empire attract little if any ad revenue. Allegedly, the group has a mysterious sponsor, believed to be Yevgeni Prigozhin, who also known as “Putin’s Cook.”

Everyday, the sites churn out dozens of articles every day that praise Putin, cast Ukraine as a failed Nazi state and expose the nefarious machinations of the United States. Still, FAN stands out. It exploits the unstable media labor market to lure in journalists from other publications with salaries above the market average. FAN even employs foreign reporters — RBC reports they are the most likely to be sent to Syria to provide coverage.

At least one popular pro-Trump, anti-Clinton Facebook group called Secured Borders, says RBC, is managed from the St. Petersburg troll factory.

Secured Borders boasts 140 thousand subscribers, and just one of its posts published at the height of the election campaign and heavily advertised on Facebook, reached 4 million people on Facebook, was “liked” more than 300 thousand times and shared more than 80 thousand times. RBC also reported that a right-wing Twitter account called Tea Party News, which is followed by 22 thousand other accounts, is also run from the St. Petersburg hub.

 

[hometeam]

View: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope


Internet activist Lyudmila Savchuk spent two months working undercover at the troll factory in 2015, creating fake social media accounts and writing blog posts meant to sow divisions in the U.S. and turn Russians against Americans.

"The factory worked 24 hours a day, seven days a week. There was a day shift, a night shift, and even shifts over the holidays. The factory worked every single second," Savchuk says.

According to Savchuk, there were a few hundred people in the building at any given time, and the average pay started at $400 a month. The trolls were divided into groups. Those with the best English skills posed as Americans and created accounts on Facebook and Twitter. They'd use those troll accounts to stir up trouble on subjects such as U.S. elections or race relations.

 

[GuerillaPete]

Hehe that guy is so Russian

 

[Hughinn]

Huginn is Odins thought being sent to the shamans.

As a kid in America, sure you might read about Thor, Zeus, Achilles and Hercules but not Huginn and Muninn. Not in a cajun community. If you did it wouldn't stick with you until your 50s. Now, in Russia the slavs and norse intermingled for centuries.

Lmfao.

Obviously we had very different parentage.

My father was the son of Danish immigrants working in mines in Idaho, Wyoming and Nevada.

During his service in Vietnam he befriended a Cajun man from new Iberia and they became essentially brothers. And both seen it that way until they died.

That Cajun man my father befriended in Vietnam happened to be the oldest brother of a large Cajun family. After his return of service from Vietnam, His younger sister married his best friend and is she is my mother.

You see asshole. I'm what's called an American.

My story is typical of rural American people and all of us have one. It's substantially different from the gated communities and Cul de sac neighborhoods of suburban liberals.

But it's mine bitch.

And my father read my brother's and I Nordic mythology for bedtime stories, like his father did him, and I like the handle of hughinn because he represents thought and observation.

My mother was Cajun so I've been to catholic mass and I can speak French because it was important to her and grandma. All of us in this family can except for a few distant cousins.

I'm a rural American

Someone who says we went to Afghanistan to fly a gay pride flag is not smarter than me, it shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what America is and who Americans are.

You don't have the slightest fukkin clue of who Americans are.

I've certainly proved that.

Nobody in America wanted bombs dropped on goat herders in Afghanistan

They were lied to

The same goes for America's economy being driven by it's strong currency and not the other way around. Or that we're only wealthy because we plunder poor countries

All of that is demonstrably true.

As I've already shown

. Or that we try to rule the world like gods rather than just influence it for the better.

Who's better off?
Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya, Venezuela, Syria, Laos, Cambodia, Sudan, Yemen, Vietnam?

That we're behind every protest in the world or every color revolution.

Nobody has promoted more violent political upheaval sponsored by big money than Washington DC

That Russia has always been our top priority and we think about them 24/7. That Biden controls the press like Putin does, that he has corporate handlers who tell him what to do and we are no more democratic than Russia. That anyone who says what you hear in the American mainstream news is a propagandist or part of Washington's inner circle. That the world is turning against us. That Russia and America are somehow still peers. That our troops would never be able to fight a peer.

What part of any of that cannot be demonstrated with facts?

I've already demonstrated most, if not all of it to be the truth

At first I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're a hardcore brainwashed, cultish libertarian of the opposition party. You've got the English language down pretty good. But these are statements that anyone who lives in America can tell you with even a basic understanding of our country is fundamentally not true.

Bullshit.

You don't anything about Americans outside your bullshit little blue bubble

These are just dark conspiracies and nightmarish fairy tales about America that Putin's regime and Russia's state media feeds you.

Again, I don't know anything about "Putin's regime" because Joe Biden has censored their opinions from our media.

Unlike you, I give my own thoughts and opinions. I don't copy and paste propoganda bullshit thinking it proves something.

Only cold logic and irrefutable facts mean anything to me. That why I refuse to answer your huge copy and paste essays of idiots like yourself

 

[Hughinn]

Hehe that guy is so Russian

Really Pete?

 

[Hughinn]

Oh yes now you've got your sock puppet out... the guy who says France plunders Africa like we plundered Afghanistan.

btw, only a Russian would say "Nazi and homophobic Taliban"

Well then why are you dodging the question asked and spewing bullshit?

You think you know more about what France has done to plunder Africa than a Frenchman because some Washington propagandist said something different?

 

[Hughinn]

View: https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1640641757175054338?t=17Fx8-HRdUX-QqTFHktksw&s=19

 

[Fautquejyaille]

Capitalism against communism =New world order
Thesis. And. Antithesis = Synthesis

Just like in world war 2 both sides sponsored by the same people.
They want a war so ugly that people leave differences aside and come together under one religion that is a mix of all religions lead by the Antichrist.
This could be it boys buckle up.

Exactly
Thank you