Seeking advice with Dads TRT

[frofrank]

Hello Gentlemen! I feel as I have most of the world of AAS covered for myself, but my dad wants to start TRT and I just want to make sure I do it right and keep him healthy.

Background, he is 63 years old and works out 3 times a week, walks almost everyday though. He just retired in February of 2025 and within that wanted to get healthy again after years of a sedentary lifestyle. Got him walking/hiking a lot, then in October started both my parents on Tirz. Hes down almost 40 pounds since retirement and with the Tirz has cut his metformin almost completely out of his pre diabetic protocol. Blood work is the best hes seen in years.

Still just not happy with his energy levels and how weak he feels, his doctor wouldn't prescribe due to "being in range" so I let him know what I could do for him. (Doesn't know i dabble). I was thinking of doing just 120mg weekly (test 300 .2ml biweekly, he takes his tirz biweekly and I think any more often he'd get annoyed) he is not having anymore kids anytime soon hes already snipped so no reason for HCG on the side, I have every AI/PCT item needed on hand but anything specific for the old man? He eats pretty well, an increase of fish oil i'm sure would do him well but supplement intake is solid.

Do I need him to get bloodwork before and after like myself running cycle? He does blood sugar and blood pressure checks most mornings.

Any suggestions/Advice would be great, Thank you!

 

[BALLISTIC]

At that age, testosterone is not about muscle or libido for his bracket. it’s going to revolve much more around potential cardiovascular risk, hematocrit, prostate health, lipids, sleep apnea onset.

Those listed are what occasionally tax men in their 60s on TRT, not estrogen, not gyno. Ancillaries are good, but in this case you'll need to weight the risks and quality of life, to quantity of life.

In a 25-year-old that’s background drums that is remedied with ease in most cases.
In a 63 year old it’s a stroke & clot risk potentially if you haven't considered this. He's not dead, and members on here are in that age bracket but it's too be considered.

The dose would be dependant on how he responds, and yes labs are an absolute necessity. At his age they're not to be compromised or passed on like many young members here quite often neglect caring about.

Tirz with weight loss and T, is a potential shbg collapse at his age which is also more likely to occur, his total T will look good while his free T skyrockets potentially. Free T will push hematocrit, BP, prostate, A-fib risk. The older you get the moore sensitive you become too free androgens. This leads to older age men either feeling wired and ready to go, or stroking out. So again labs are an absolute must without negotiation. T is not the risk, it's going to be blood thickness/clot risk.

He already lost 40lbs, and is actively fixing blood sugar issues, meaning he may have an underlying risk that will show its ugly face without warning. Correcting those things will give him a natural T boost as is.

Instinctually being careful with an older guy is correct and good thought. But just dosing and not fully considering labs as an absolute is just reckless, so do it right, or don't do it at all.

Also consider and this isn't an insult as many 63yoa folks are spry and kicking. But this is the body starting to say your time has come and gone. Live easy, take it easy, and relax... I'm ready to take the easy road.

Just for consideration and not as an insult to anyone of older age, we are all very much different, and I just didn't want you to go into thinking gyno, E2, and so on are common concerns for this age group. While they are much needs to be considered.

Edit: forgive my typos, it's late and I'm not concerned with correcting. However if something doesn't make sense just ask.

 

[frofrank]

At that age, testosterone is not about muscle or libido for his bracket. it’s going to revolve much more around potential cardiovascular risk, hematocrit, prostate health, lipids, sleep apnea onset.

Those listed are what occasionally tax men in their 60s on TRT, not estrogen, not gyno. Ancillaries are good, but in this case you'll need to weight the risks and quality of life, to quantity of life.

In a 25-year-old that’s background drums that is remedied with ease in most cases.
In a 63 year old it’s a stroke & clot risk potentially if you haven't considered this. He's not dead, and members on here are in that age bracket but it's too be considered.

The dose would be dependant on how he responds, and yes labs are an absolute necessity. At his age they're not to be compromised or passed on like many young members here quite often neglect caring about.

Tirz with weight loss and T, is a potential shbg collapse at his age which is also more likely to occur, his total T will look good while his free T skyrockets potentially. Free T will push hematocrit, BP, prostate, A-fib risk. The older you get the moore sensitive you become too free androgens. This leads to older age men either feeling wired and ready to go, or stroking out. So again labs are an absolute must without negotiation. T is not the risk, it's going to be blood thickness/clot risk.

He already lost 40lbs, and is actively fixing blood sugar issues, meaning he may have an underlying risk that will show its ugly face without warning. Correcting those things will give him a natural T boost as is.

Instinctually being careful with an older guy is correct and good thought. But just dosing and not fully considering labs as an absolute is just reckless, so do it right, or don't do it at all.

Also consider and this isn't an insult as many 63yoa folks are spry and kicking. But this is the body starting to say your time has come and gone. Live easy, take it easy, and relax... I'm ready to take the easy road.

Just for consideration and not as an insult to anyone of older age, we are all very much different, and I just didn't want you to go into thinking gyno, E2, and so on are common concerns for this age group. While they are much needs to be considered.

Edit: forgive my typos, it's late and I'm not concerned with correcting. However if something doesn't make sense just ask.

This was great, thank you for your input. Would a replacement dose of GH be less impactful as far as concerns go? Or any other suggestions in that realm.

I’ll keep working him out and see how his next blood work comes back and tell him to ask his doctor more questions.

 

[buck]

What are his T and E2 actual numbers?
Hard to say what a person should do when we don't know where they are at.
If he has lost a lot of weight lately then he is low on calories and not having energy would not be a weird thing. Starving can do that even is it is for a good reason.

 

[BALLISTIC]

This was great, thank you for your input. Would a replacement dose of GH be less impactful as far as concerns go? Or any other suggestions in that realm.

I’ll keep working him out and see how his next blood work comes back and tell him to ask his doctor more questions.

In my opinion HGH would be a far better option. You should find out what his labs were like when the doctor refused T. Just to have an overall picture, your dad might be a god d@mn studd.

I met a gentleman the other day, 55yoa, all natural never took AAS in his life. His labs had him through the roof on T markers. It's interesting because the guy next to him could equally be terrible. What dictates an outcome for 1 doesn't apply to all.

Have him really break it down for you, does he potentially already suffer from apnea? Deep snoring? Ask Mom... Haha she'll be honest.

At his age many suffer from apnea as the muscles in the throat begin to weaken. Rather than a weight gain issue, sinus issue, size issue. It's often a muscle weakness issue as the cause. Just something to think about. He may not suffer at all and you're in a direct path and clear way of thinking with T, I just wouldn't under any circumstance avoid labs if he chooses to venture that way.

Yes calories are def at play I would assume.