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Side effects of low e2 levels when using AI's
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BigTomJ
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Why are you taking .5mg letro EOD?
Flaming Dragon
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Almost the same effect as a high E2 level. As @BigTomJ said.. why crash your E2 when a simple blood work can take the guessing out.
Foggy head, aches, short temperedness, low sex drive it sucks.
.5 letro EOD is a shit ton man….
.5 letro EOD is a shit ton man….
The easiest indicator of low E2 for me is dry joints, particularly in the knees and rotator cuff area (squatting/leg pressing/benching with low E2 just feels god awful).
Other than that, you feel tired and lethergic, low sex drive (as others mentioned), just overall you feel like crap. It's usually pretty easy to notice when you've crashed your E2
Why are you taking so much letro? are you on a high dose cycle? trying to reverse gyno?
You might be better off with aromasin or arimidex, depending on what youre using the AI for, as letrozole is very strong, especially when taken EOD.
It's also worth noting that letrozole has a half life of 3-4 days, you probably don't need to be taking it that frequently
Other than that, you feel tired and lethergic, low sex drive (as others mentioned), just overall you feel like crap. It's usually pretty easy to notice when you've crashed your E2
Why are you taking so much letro? are you on a high dose cycle? trying to reverse gyno?
You might be better off with aromasin or arimidex, depending on what youre using the AI for, as letrozole is very strong, especially when taken EOD.
It's also worth noting that letrozole has a half life of 3-4 days, you probably don't need to be taking it that frequently
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Mrhairyman
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Regardless of the dose, AIs make me feel completely terrible physically , mentally, and emotionally.
Do you have current blood work, what are your levels ?
Low E sides, very tired and unmotivated, foggy head, irritable, bloating, oily skin
Do you have current blood work, what are your levels ?
Low E sides, very tired and unmotivated, foggy head, irritable, bloating, oily skin
I am guessing he is from a country where you can’t just request estrogen tests.
Even here in Canada, we cannot just request our gp/endo for such test. Unless you are willing to shell out cash if there are private clinics near you, and if lucky we can cross the border to pay for it to be done stateside.
Too long and it’ll begin impacting brain and heart as well. Estrogen is our friend.
Yep. Agree 100%. I was just speaking to the obvious symptoms you you'd likely experience first. Like you would notice that your joints felt like rusty hinges while you might not notice any heart related symptoms until you were on the verge of heart failure.
Type-IIx
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The answer to your question has been given, in the following Article:
thinksteroids.com
In the section, titled "Symptoms of Low Estrogenicity."
Unfortunately, the only rapid/acute effect of low estrogens in men (bone/joint pain) overlaps with direct effects of most AIs. That is, besides exemestane, all the other commercially availabile – sure, atamestane might be an exception, since it, like exemestane, is an androgen, but the exception proves the rule with respect to adages like this one. Specifically it is 1-methyl-boldione.
The other commercially available AIs (e.g., anastrozole) cause BMC/BMD loss directly and not by acting on estrogen/E2.
Frankly, acutely, symptoms of low E2 are not something men should really experience since even with AIs since it's virtually impossible to "crush" intra-testicular aromatase activity. If you manage it, then use hCG, and all will be right with the world.
Men (meaning adult male humans) simply don't, as a sex, require estradiol for daily functioning. We just benefit from it in many ways.
Analogous to T in women.
Primobolan / Equipoise Crashed my E2 – Help!
Understand the complex interaction of Primobolan and Equipoise with estrogen levels, symptoms of low estrogens, and practical decision-making strategies for managing these effects in AAS users.
thinksteroids.com
In the section, titled "Symptoms of Low Estrogenicity."
Unfortunately, the only rapid/acute effect of low estrogens in men (bone/joint pain) overlaps with direct effects of most AIs. That is, besides exemestane, all the other commercially availabile – sure, atamestane might be an exception, since it, like exemestane, is an androgen, but the exception proves the rule with respect to adages like this one. Specifically it is 1-methyl-boldione.
The other commercially available AIs (e.g., anastrozole) cause BMC/BMD loss directly and not by acting on estrogen/E2.
Frankly, acutely, symptoms of low E2 are not something men should really experience since even with AIs since it's virtually impossible to "crush" intra-testicular aromatase activity. If you manage it, then use hCG, and all will be right with the world.
Men (meaning adult male humans) simply don't, as a sex, require estradiol for daily functioning. We just benefit from it in many ways.
Analogous to T in women.
Type-IIx
Well-known Member
Note: Of course, the only thing I'd ever make a recommendation for, after suggesting that a bodybuilder stop using AAS, is an OTC supplement like DHEA, widely available without a prescription. It is very effective at dose-dependently increasing estadiol in men, and is itself an estrogen.The answer to your question has been given, in the following Article:
Primobolan / Equipoise Crashed my E2 – Help!
Understand the complex interaction of Primobolan and Equipoise with estrogen levels, symptoms of low estrogens, and practical decision-making strategies for managing these effects in AAS users.
In the section, titled "Symptoms of Low Estrogenicity."
Unfortunately, the only rapid/acute effect of low estrogens in men (bone/joint pain) overlaps with direct effects of most AIs. That is, besides exemestane, all the other commercially availabile – sure, atamestane might be an exception, since it, like exemestane, is an androgen, but the exception proves the rule with respect to adages like this one. Specifically it is 1-methyl-boldione.
The other commercially available AIs (e.g., anastrozole) cause BMC/BMD loss directly and not by acting on estrogen/E2.
Frankly, acutely, symptoms of low E2 are not something men should really experience since even with AIs since it's virtually impossible to "crush" intra-testicular aromatase activity. If you manage it, then use hCG, and all will be right with the world.
Men (meaning adult male humans) simply don't, as a sex, require estradiol for daily functioning. We just benefit from it in many ways.
Analogous to T in women.
Did not know this. Very good!
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So much so that it makes one terribly anxious.
The few times I have used DHEA I had to immediately apply copious amounts of my homemade transdermal testosterone solution to revert to an androgenic state.
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Inthemixer
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DHEA is mostly androgenic when applied topically ?
jdubzzz44
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I had my estradiol tanked <5 and had no idea when I got the results I was surprised lol
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That's what many have you believe, my lengthy experiment tells me it's highly estrogenic even transdermally.
Inthemixer
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Ok, what you currently using then anything ?
HUGE McBIGLARGE
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What e2 do you guys aim for?
Looking back, I’m thinking that I’ve felt my best when my e2 was at 125pg/ml
Looking back, I’m thinking that I’ve felt my best when my e2 was at 125pg/ml
No target, just don’t want side effects. If you can get away without sides with zero intervention then I encourage it.
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