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Alright, so I'll just start here I guess. I'm going to end up ordering a decent chunk of 5Amino1MQ from a source not on this board. Allegedly, it'll be the chloride version.

Would any folks be interested in sharing the cost of Janoshik testing?

Separately, Not sure if you all saw the purity results of QSC SLUPP, but it's 73%.

This vendor @MYP9864 found allegedly has 99% pure SLUPP, we're waiting on 5Amino COA. Don't really trust in house testing...so want to send the 5Amino in for sure to verify it is infact chloride at the least bit, and would consider sending in SLUPP from the same vendor as well.

I believe @narta has sent in SLUPP from SSA? But anyhow, would be nice to start collecting data points on these new products.

If you're interested in making a contribution towards 5Amino and perhaps SLUPP testing (from same vendor not on this forum) when the time is right, DM me.
I agree. Iodide version is not only dangerous to thyroid health in recommended doses but also less effective than Chloride by approx. 45%. Almost half of each 5-amino Iodide tablet is pure Iodide.

Percentage of 5-Amino-1MQ in Each Form

Chloride Form:
  • 5-Amino-1MQ: 81.90%
  • Chloride: 18.10%

  • Iodide Form:
    • 5-Amino-1MQ: 55.81%
    • Iodide: 44.19%
It would be nice to get a response from SSA on this matter but for some reason we are being ignored. We have already asked for a response a few days ago but to no avail.
Friends after our analysis of the product. 5-Amino-1MQ is the chloride version.
 
Wouldn't mind trying your Tesa but Q's prices are so much lower it's ridiculous. It's always on promo, for almost 8 months now, at less than half of yours. Please check with your supplier, I think they forgot to tell you the price has dropped a lot.
 
Alright, so I'll just start here I guess. I'm going to end up ordering a decent chunk of 5Amino1MQ from a source not on this board. Allegedly, it'll be the chloride version.

Would any folks be interested in sharing the cost of Janoshik testing?

Separately, Not sure if you all saw the purity results of QSC SLUPP, but it's 73%.

This vendor @MYP9864 found allegedly has 99% pure SLUPP, we're waiting on 5Amino COA. Don't really trust in house testing...so want to send the 5Amino in for sure to verify it is infact chloride at the least bit, and would consider sending in SLUPP from the same vendor as well.

I believe @narta has sent in SLUPP from SSA? But anyhow, would be nice to start collecting data points on these new products.

If you're interested in making a contribution towards 5Amino and perhaps SLUPP testing (from same vendor not on this forum) when the time is right, DM me.
SLU-PP-332: Janoshik Analytical
5-AMIINO-1MQ:Janoshik Analytical
 
Mine was shipped 2 weeks ago. Tracking shows "Pre-Shipment, USPS Awaiting Item". I haven't had that one before, I've had "label created" before. They also put my suite # in the front of my address, I told them it isn't how mail is addressed in the US and was told "its fine, don't worry". I guess we will see what happens.
Some products use another USPS transport route, do not worry about the normal package.
 
Big discount. Hope you don't miss it.
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I would like to bring to your attention that the "shipping notes" are being entered in the "street address" field during the shipment process. This leads to an incomplete or incorrect address, resulting in my package being lost (i read i am not the only one). When this happens, I am unable to negotiate for a refund, a re-shipment, or to communicate with the courier to resolve the issue.

Additionally, I have not received any responses to my messages via WhatsApp.
 
Friends after our analysis of the product. 5-Amino-1MQ is the chloride version.
SSA, appreciate you setting the record straight on this and providing Janoshik analysis.

This does bring up questions, however. We were told its the iodide version, and then ignored for days / week(s) when bringing to your attention the issues with consumption of the iodide version in effective doses.

Then magically you get it tested, and it's the chloride version now.

Where did the breakdown in communication occur? Did your chemists not realize they were making chloride version (lol), did you / reps not understand what you were selling?

Who is to say you didn't whip up a quick batch and send to Jano to alleviate consumer fear?

Just trying to figure out what happened here.
 
@SigmaAudley China Peptide

I would like to bring to your attention that the "shipping notes" are being entered in the "street address" field during the shipment process. This leads to an incomplete or incorrect address, resulting in my package being lost (i read i am not the only one). When this happens, I am unable to negotiate for a refund, a re-shipment, or to communicate with the courier to resolve the issue.

Additionally, I have not received any responses to my messages via WhatsApp.
It has been re-shipped for you. There will be a new tracking number tomorrow or Monday.
 
SSA, appreciate you setting the record straight on this and providing Janoshik analysis.

This does bring up questions, however. We were told its the iodide version, and then ignored for days / week(s) when bringing to your attention the issues with consumption of the iodide version in effective doses.

Then magically you get it tested, and it's the chloride version now.

Where did the breakdown in communication occur? Did your chemists not realize they were making chloride version (lol), did you / reps not understand what you were selling?

Who is to say you didn't whip up a quick batch and send to Jano to alleviate consumer fear?

Just trying to figure out what happened here.
Because there are not many factories producing this product in China, there are few ways to learn about this product. So in order to confirm it, I consulted many laboratories and foreign third-party testing agencies to confirm this matter. There are errors in the information from China and abroad.
 
so the question remains , "to test-or not test" all your products that you are injecting, as it seems a source "might" just tell us what we want to hear,,,, Who do you trust?
Well, in this case jano has tested the sample they provided. And it’s orally consumed. But it would be a big deal to me if it was iodide vs chloride.

Obviously the sample they sent to jano is chloride. It's just a bit confusing cuz I've been hounding them about making chloride and negative health ramifications of iodide for awhile and then BOOM, apparently it's actually chloride despite having told me previously it's iodide. Could've been a new 1g sample.

I wonder if there is difference in melting point or something.

I should test it, but I’m planning on sourcing from another vendor and testing that in hopes it’s higher purity, so I don’t really want to drop those dollars right now.

So here I am again, eating 500mg per day. I’ll let you guys know if I die.
 
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Because there are not many factories producing this product in China, there are few ways to learn about this product. So in order to confirm it, I consulted many laboratories and foreign third-party testing agencies to confirm this matter. There are errors in the information from China and abroad.
Okay. I get that.

I'm just a bit confused. How did your chemists not know what they were making? Surely the synthesis process differs for chloride vs iodide from an input chemical perspective?

Or, is this not produced in house at all?

It just strikes me as odd that I was making noise about iodide being bad. And then shortly after with zero acknowledgement or response, you come back with lab tests that show you have at least 1g of chloride on hand.

It's awesome you showed you can acquire / create chloride. Where I'm left wondering is - is what I have in hand, what I ordered from you guys weeks ago; is that chloride, or is it iodide?

I know you say that it is chloride. But I hope you can appreciate that consumers need to approach these things with a fair bit of skepticism.

Had you done testing on the batch before selling it, I wouldn't be nearly as skeptical.
 
Okay. I get that.

I'm just a bit confused. How did your chemists not know what they were making? Surely the synthesis process differs for chloride vs iodide from an input chemical perspective?

Or, is this not produced in house at all?

It just strikes me as odd that I was making noise about iodide being bad. And then shortly after with zero acknowledgement or response, you come back with lab tests that show you have at least 1g of chloride on hand.

It's awesome you showed you can acquire / create chloride. Where I'm left wondering is - is what I have in hand, what I ordered from you guys weeks ago; is that chloride, or is it iodide?

I know you say that it is chloride. But I hope you can appreciate that consumers need to approach these things with a fair bit of skepticism.

Had you done testing on the batch before selling it, I wouldn't be nearly as skeptical.
It looks like it's easy to test for the presence of chloride or iodine according to Google.
 
Because there are not many factories producing this product in China, there are few ways to learn about this product. So in order to confirm it, I consulted many laboratories and foreign third-party testing agencies to confirm this matter. There are errors in the information from China and abroad.
This is a wonderful comedy! :D Your chemists produced Chloride version and you were selling it as Iodide. It seems to me that there was an internal communication problem between your lab and your sales reps.

Since your chemists must have known they were making Chloride version, in order to make it right, the only plausible explanation is that someone in your sales department screwed up and listed it as Iodide.

That's not the end of the world. Mistakes happen. Sometimes it's better to admit to a simple truth; the explanation given here is so scattered and illogical, it makes no sense.

Having said that, I am glad you have finally gotten it tested with Janoshik.
Now that we know it's Chloride version, we can sleep better, although given that it's only 71% pure, we might never wake up ;)

So I think it's fair to say, that as of right now, SSA is one of very few producers of 5-amino Chloride version, although you wouldn't know it if it wasn't extensively discussed here by @Trenbolonetax and @MYP9864.
We have brought up the issue of Iodide toxicity to the fore front and pushed for having your product tested and modified if need be.

So a free 50 grams of the NEW AND HEALTHY 5-amino-1mq Chloride version for us both would be a nice gesture @@SigmaAudley China Peptide.
:)
 
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