So you injected into a vein, now what?

Yeah. Aspirate. But it's not gonna kill you. At least it didn't kill me. I have probably done it 3 times. It was scary the first time. Thought I was gonna die in a hotel room.
 
injecting in a vein does nothing , your heart is a pump it just pumps it thru as if it was blood, now if you have air in your syringe that could hurt , but it takes a good amount of air to kill you ,
hell man me and a million other guys injected heroin in our veins for years all it ever did is get me high....
 
I wouldnt go so far as to say "injecting in a vein does NOTHING" per se. There could easily be complications from mainlining MTC oil infused with god knows what. My guess is infection being the most probable...not to mention all the symptoms as described above. Your bypassing all the bodies natural defense mech's by going IV.

Street heroin is obviously a huge gamble as well which is why you boil it in a spoon and draw through cotton, correct? Thats only the tip of the iceberg.

As long as its just a small amount of residual oil (like what just happened to me) you shouldn't be to worried. Heart rate goes up with a very slight burning in your chest and a quick cough. Thats it, at least was mine.

Personally, I always aspirate at least 1ml let it snap back into place so I know im in deep tissue. Good rule of thumb. If your going to pin gear chances are, at some point, its gonna happen.
 
Aspiration is done because when you pull back if in the proper area would feel resistance. If in a vein the syringe would quickly fill with blood. It is almost impossible to not know your in a vein. I disagree with this statement. Its actually easy to determine if youre INSIDE a vein. The resistance is similar to scar tissues because of the pressure inside your vein. The required force to inject into a vein is significantly more than intramuscular injections. There is no/or very little resistance when injection into muscle tissue (not scar tissue).

The remaining portion of your comment i completely agree with.

Blood Vessel is one of the most misused medical terms. Your Heart is a blood vessel. When we inject into muscles or attempt to the blood vessel most are referring to is a capillary. Capillaries generally carry small amounts of blood and tend to be low pressure (that means the amount of blood is small and generally stops bleeding quickly with a small amount of pressure applied on the outside skin.

If you managed to inject into a vein you would want to lay down. Call 911 and try to breath normally. It is really pointless to discuss this as it would just scare people when I cannot imagine someone doing it on accident. If you have read about Aspiration and given yourself an IM this should not be an issue.

The best advice I have if you are new to IM injections or if you intend on giving them to yourself is to read about not only proper technique but also to read about the areas of the body you intend on giving the injections. Seriously all injections are to be taken seriously but with a reasonable amount of caution and knowledge it should never be a problem.

Hope this helps.

Your fine it take 20cc of air to kill you.. very rare to die

Less than 3cc. But considerably more than most people think. And yes, death from an embolism (VAE) is a very rare occurrence.

When I injected into my glute the other day, a little blood came back when I pulled the plunger back. I pulled to needle out and injected again. Would that have been a vein or artery if there was just a little blood? Also was it ok that I injected it back in a new spot with some blood in the syringe?

No you were not IN an artery. Perhaps nicked one, or more likely a capillary. This is common. No reason to be alarmed.

So is there really no fool proof method to make sure this never happens?

Aspirating will eliminate 99% of the risk. And as i outline above, if you know the difference of injecting into a vein and muscle tissue it should not pose any risk.
 
The ONE time I forgot to aspirate I nicked a blood vessel.

It was just test e, but instantly starting coughing, and it lasted about an hour.
A beer or two definitely helped get me relaxed enough to ride it out.
 
I used to aspirate - quit when I would be sore from the wobbling and read the CDC doesn't push it anymore and realized my doc never did, and this morning I pulled the pin out and blood went down my fucking leg. I thought, "Well, shit.. this is going to suck", but no problems with cough or dying that I'm aware of. I apparently nicked one on the way out.
 
I used to aspirate - quit when I would be sore from the wobbling and read the CDC doesn't push it anymore and realized my doc never did, and this morning I pulled the pin out and blood went down my fucking leg. I thought, "Well, shit.. this is going to suck", but no problems with cough or dying that I'm aware of. I apparently nicked one on the way out.
yeah, if you died you would probably know.

I hate hearing about the possibility of an accidental IV injection but from what I've read, it seems like proper site injection into the upper outer quadrant of the ventrogluteal removes almost all risk. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
@Northern Nutrition I saw you explained resistance when injecting into a vein, but how about resistance when aspirating? Often when I aspirate I get a resistance which basically pulls the plunger back in from where I pulled in order to aspirate, would that be vacuuming muscle tissue? Not possible to have resistance when in a vein right? Blood would flow right into the syringe? I have had lots of cases like that and all those sparkled a bit of curiosity as to why at some points plunger can't hold in position where I pulled to but "resets" back to starting position.
 
There is no vacuum in an artery or vein, only positive pressure. If you experience a vacuum when aspirating you're likley into a pocket in deep muscle tissue.
 
Damn, the ONE time I didn't aspirate, I pinned test and got wicked cough...still waiting for tren cough to come.
 
@Northern Nutrition I saw you explained resistance when injecting into a vein, but how about resistance when aspirating? Often when I aspirate I get a resistance which basically pulls the plunger back in from where I pulled in order to aspirate, would that be vacuuming muscle tissue? Not possible to have resistance when in a vein right? Blood would flow right into the syringe? I have had lots of cases like that and all those sparkled a bit of curiosity as to why at some points plunger can't hold in position where I pulled to but "resets" back to starting position.

It's the equivalent of sticking your needle into a thick cut of brisket. No pockets of air or space in there. (other than whats carried by oxygenated blood inside the tissue) Since the syringe is airtight at the plunger, it creates a vacuum.
 
It's the equivalent of sticking your needle into a thick cut of brisket. No pockets of air or space in there. (other than whats carried by oxygenated blood inside the tissue) Since the syringe is airtight at the plunger, it creates a vacuum.

*When you aspirate.
 
I'm new on this board so firstly hello everyone!

I did a bit of research on this the other day as it happened to me and this is what i found, thought it may be useful to add..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205107/

'The present report is the first to describe a case of pulmonary oil embolism following accidental intravascular injection of an oil-steroid solution. Acute lung injury and respiratory distress following intravascular introduction of oil is uncommon and has only been described in a small number of case reports (16).'

Basically its the oil that fucks you up not so much the compound!

Nurses/Doctors don't aspirate as they aren't usually injecting oils I'm assuming
 
Im on HRT and have a question.

I always aspirate, but what if you accidentally do inject right into a vein?

What should you do?

Call 911 immediately?
See how you feel, and if like shit, call 911?
Immediately drive to hospital? (possibly passing out at the wheel)

I only inject half a cc. Whats my worst case scenario and what should I do if I suddenly realize I just injected into a blood vessel because I suddenly feel weird?

What are the symptoms of injecting into a blood vessel anyway? Will it be way obvious and IMMEDIATE???

I never aspirated and don't know many who have. In and out bro.
 
I never aspirated and don't know many who have. In and out bro.
Same here...inject sites I hit are delts. Bicep, tricep. Never aspirated since day 1. Now and then I get a bleeder....so far though no other bad effects. Injection volume 1cc/ site
 

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