[SOURCE] Canadian Domestic Anabolics Introduction

[CDNDA]

@Analyzer

As discussed please comment about the report as it has come up you don't know what you are doing.

I offered to replace it after its tested.

You think it's reasonable that he made a mistaken find? That sounds reasonable to you? Then no bb or eo. I guarantee i used it. Idgaf what he says. I use bb in every single compound. Even test.

Im not saying it anymore. I offered you replacement tested product.

I wont say this again. So stop saying im not working with u on a solution. Youre just pissed youre not getting your way.

 

[CDNDA]

Okay so here is the lie busted and out.

CDN has always said I don't use EO in my Preparations.
I inquire about an NPP 200, I told him to use EO.
I buy (2) T400's, 1 Tren A 100
He gets EO for the NPP 200

So no EO was used in that T400.

Yes. I did say that. I said it in this thread. That i feel it's overused. Which it is imo.

However since i was using it anyways. I just put it in everything higher mg.

Test my p200 t200 t400 npp200. All has eo in it. This is absurd. As you say. I knew u were testing it. So in your mind I'd purposefully send weak product? Yeah ok...Im sure...

If you want replacements. Let me know.

 

[Steve84]

I offered to replace it after its tested.

You think it's reasonable that he made a mistaken find? That sounds reasonable to you? Then no bb or eo. I guarantee i used it. Idgaf what he says. I use bb in every single compound. Even test.

Im not saying it anymore. I offered you replacement tested product.

I wont say this again. So stop saying im not working with u on a solution. Youre just pissed youre not getting your way.

I'm not going to sit and test your products over and over til I find the day you give me a vial that is dosed right. First everyone gets the same product out of the same pile, then I get a t400 out of a batch of 10. Then you use eo in your products when I have proof these were ordered before you bought eo for the Npp 200 and we're preaching I don't use eo.
You can't keep your stories straight.

Your Npp 200 will be the next test.
Sounds like someone might test the prop 200/tren a 200 you gave me.

Your lies are coming through.

You do have it right, I don't want a replacement. So it's my personal choice to inform the community over your dosing instead. I asked how you wanted to handle my situation in a nice email and you pretty much told me to go fuck myself.

 

[Steve84]

Yes. I did say that. I said it in this thread. That i feel it's overused. Which it is imo.

However since i was using it anyways. I just put it in everything higher mg.

Test my p200 t200 t400 npp200. All has eo in it. This is absurd. As you say. I knew u were testing it. So in your mind I'd purposefully send weak product? Yeah ok...Im sure...

If you want replacements. Let me know.

You forgot...I bought my T400 before you got EO.

I don't want replacements. I came to you specifically for a custom brew. If you don't live up to it, all I want is a refund. This isn't that i've been ordering from you over and over and you messed up. This is the first order for you to provide a product asked for. I asked for a product you said you'd provide.

You already refused to pay for the testing once. Your word pretty much has lost all credibility.

 

[CDNDA]

@Steve84

Ok. So we agree to disagree. Im offering a solution. You're refusing that solution. Now how do i know youre not adding extra oil to my compound before youre sending it for testing?

So ill tell you what. Ill send tren 200 prop 200 and npp 200 from the same batch yours are. Our numbers should be identical. If theyre not then we know some fuckery is afoot. Either that or Analyzers testing isnt as great as we are lead to believe.

Tell us here or in email when you're sending. Ill do the same. Sound good?

 

[cflow69]

@Steve84

Ok. So we agree to disagree. Im offering a solution. You're refusing that solution. Now how do i know youre not adding extra oil to my compound before youre sending it for testing?

So ill tell you what. Ill send tren 200 prop 200 and npp 200 from the same batch yours are. Our numbers should be identical. If theyre not then we know some fuckery is afoot. Either that or Analyzers testing isnt as great as we are lead to believe.

Tell us here or in email when you're sending. Ill do the same. Sound good?

Steve and I are spitting the cost and sending the tren and prop 200. We want to clearly send ourselves so ur not making a social batch to send out . This is our way of pushing out the garbage labs . Us community members need to stick together !

 

[Steve84]

@Steve84

Ok. So we agree to disagree. Im offering a solution. You're refusing that solution. Now how do i know youre not adding extra oil to my compound before youre sending it for testing?

So ill tell you what. Ill send tren 200 prop 200 and npp 200 from the same batch yours are. Our numbers should be identical. If theyre not then we know some fuckery is afoot. Either that or Analyzers testing isnt as great as we are lead to believe.

Tell us here or in email when you're sending. Ill do the same. Sound good?

As long as I get something to send the prop 200 in (used one of my empty vials) this will be mailed tomorrow)
I already have the tren 200 and npp 200 ready to ship.

I have nothing to gain from adding extra oil. Your t400 was a quick buy for one sole purpose. To test. I still have 1 unopened vial and the one I did pull out my sample. And if his test was off, why did my pharmacom test almost perfect?

Time will all tell, analyzer will be commenting on the test results.

 

[Analyzer]

@Analyzer

As discussed please comment about the report as it has come up you don't know what you are doing.

Thanks.

Regarding solvents:
If you take a look into the report, on page 2 is a the gas chromatography report. Each compound has unique retention time, what is the position of a peak on the x-axis. Retention times (in minutes) for solvents are as follows:
Benzyl alcohol - 2.92
Benzyl Benzoate - 7.42
Ethyl Oleate - 9.26
In the T400 report is present huge peak at 2.92. The signal intensity is more than 10x stronger than usual intensity in most of samples I have tested, so I would expect that BA concentration in the sample is about 20%. I can make a calibration and determine its concentration exactly.
There is also a small peak at 7.42, but its intensity is less than 1/100 of intensity of this peak in other samples I have recently tested, so it is probably artifact. In case BB is really present in the sample, its concentration is probably not more than 0.2%.

Regarding dosage:
There is another report published by @Steve84 for pharmacom TE300, which was was tested by me. The result I got was 302 mg/mL. Assuming the product was really dosed at 300 mg/mL, my test was correct with error less than 1%. Why would then the T400 sample tested the same day using the same method would come with error almost 100%? Moreover, I have tested this sample twice because of the dianabol issue. The testosterone dosage was almost the same in both cases.

The false positive test for dianabol was my mistake, I probably had trace of it in the system from previously tested raw samples. The retest resolved this issue and showed that there is no dianabol present in the T400 sample.

 

[CDNDA]

Steve and I are spitting the cost and sending the tren and prop 200. We want to clearly send ourselves so ur not making a social batch to send out . This is our way of pushing out the garbage labs . Us community members need to stick together !

Great. Do it. If they come back good. Then what?

 

[UpNorth]

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[UpNorth]

Thanks.

Regarding solvents:
If you take a look into the report, on page 2 is a the gas chromatography report. Each compound has unique retention time, what is the position of a peak on the x-axis. Retention times (in minutes) for solvents are as follows:
Benzyl alcohol - 2.92
Benzyl Benzoate - 7.42
Ethyl Oleate - 9.26
In the T400 report is present huge peak at 2.92. The signal intensity is more than 10x stronger than usual intensity in most of samples I have tested, so I would expect that BA concentration in the sample is about 20%. I can make a calibration and determine its concentration exactly.
There is also a small peak at 7.42, but its intensity is less than 1/100 of intensity of this peak in other samples I have recently tested, so it is probably artifact. In case BB is really present in the sample, its concentration is probably not more than 0.2%.

Regarding dosage:
There is another report published by @Steve84 for pharmacom TE300, which was was tested by me. The result I got was 302 mg/mL. Assuming the product was really dosed at 300 mg/mL, my test was correct with error less than 1%. Why would then the T400 sample tested the same day using the same method would come with error almost 100%? Moreover, I have tested this sample twice because of the dianabol issue. The testosterone dosage was almost the same in both cases.

The false positive test for dianabol was my mistake, I probably had trace of it in the system from previously tested raw samples. The retest resolved this issue and showed that there is no dianabol present in the T400 sample.

"The signal intensity is more than 10x stronger than usual intensity in most of samples I have tested, so I would expect that BA concentration in the sample is about 20%."


So it could be inferred that CDNDA mistook BA for BB in his T400? As BB would normally be about 20%

 

[Steve84]

Great. Do it. If they come back good. Then what?

I eat my words over that assumption these are going to come back bad.

What doesn't change is how you treated me as a customer for the t400. What it shows is you had an absolute shit product.
You said you'd give me either store credit or pay for the test. Well when the test came back bad, you bailed on that.
Do I expect you to follow through on you paying for other tests... no
Your words are meaning shit to me.
Like you said you don't want me as a customer, so that's how I'm going to treat you as a lab. Nothing good to say.

Maybe just maybe out of this I'll get a product I could use and salvage some money back, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[CDNDA]

Thanks.

Regarding solvents:
If you take a look into the report, on page 2 is a the gas chromatography report. Each compound has unique retention time, what is the position of a peak on the x-axis. Retention times (in minutes) for solvents are as follows:
Benzyl alcohol - 2.92
Benzyl Benzoate - 7.42
Ethyl Oleate - 9.26
In the T400 report is present huge peak at 2.92. The signal intensity is more than 10x stronger than usual intensity in most of samples I have tested, so I would expect that BA concentration in the sample is about 20%. I can make a calibration and determine its concentration exactly.
There is also a small peak at 7.42, but its intensity is less than 1/100 of intensity of this peak in other samples I have recently tested, so it is probably artifact. In case BB is really present in the sample, its concentration is probably not more than 0.2%.

Regarding dosage:
There is another report published by @Steve84 for pharmacom TE300, which was was tested by me. The result I got was 302 mg/mL. Assuming the product was really dosed at 300 mg/mL, my test was correct with error less than 1%. Why would then the T400 sample tested the same day using the same method would come with error almost 100%? Moreover, I have tested this sample twice because of the dianabol issue. The testosterone dosage was almost the same in both cases.

The false positive test for dianabol was my mistake, I probably had trace of it in the system from previously tested raw samples. The retest resolved this issue and showed that there is no dianabol present in the T400 sample.

Ok.

I sure as fuck didnt put 20%BA in there...that serves no purpose.

That batch may not have eo in it...its hard to remember each and every batch exactly. If i didnt use eo id do 2/20 or 1.5/19 ba/bb. Or something along those lines for it to hold at 400mg at most.

Anyways. If it's under ill replace it @Steve84

 

[UpNorth]

Ok.

I sure as fuck didnt put 20%BA in there...that serves no purpose.

That batch may not have eo in it...its hard to remember each and every batch exactly. If i didnt use eo id do 2/20 or 1.5/19 ba/bb. Or something along those lines for it to hold at 400mg at most.

Anyways. If it's under ill replace it @Steve84

Are you sure your solvents are correctly labelled? Have you tried freezing the BB to see if it is acutally BB and not BA?

 

[Steve84]

Ok.

I sure as fuck didnt put 20%BA in there...that serves no purpose.

That batch may not have eo in it...its hard to remember each and every batch exactly. If i didnt use eo id do 2/20 or 1.5/19 ba/bb. Or something along those lines for it to hold at 400mg at most.

Anyways. If it's under ill replace it @Steve84

It is under. We have already determined that.
Like I said, I have the same vial opened or another unopened. You can pay for a retest if you'd like.
Just decide in 1 day and I'll send it with the other 3 samples.

3 more tests on your products still will be done.

 

[CDNDA]

I eat my words over that assumption these are going to come back bad.

What doesn't change is how you treated me as a customer for the t400. What it shows is you had an absolute shit product.
You said you'd give me either store credit or pay for the test. Well when the test came back bad, you bailed on that.
Do I expect you to follow through on you paying for other tests... no
Your words are meaning shit to me.
Like you said you don't want me as a customer, so that's how I'm going to treat you as a lab. Nothing good to say.

Maybe just maybe out of this I'll get a product I could use and salvage some money back, but I'm not holding my breath.

How i treated you? Respect goes both ways buddy. You dont give me any, dont expect it in return. Im not going to kiss anyone's ass. I will not lower myself to that.

If that means i have less clients. So be it. I'll manage.

Anyways im done with the drama. Sorry it didnt work out. I wish you the best moving forward.

Take care.

 

[CDNDA]

Are you sure your solvents are correctly labelled? Have you tried freezing the BB to see if it is acutally BB and not BA?

I get them the same place everyone does but its a good point. Ill do it once im back.

Anyways its past midnight here.

 

[cflow69]

Great. Do it. If they come back good. Then what?

If it comes back good then we will shut our mouths about 1 bad testing . As u said other labs have tested under par before. But let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet !

 

[Steve84]

How i treated you? Respect goes both ways buddy. You dont give me any, dont expect it in return. Im not going to kiss anyone's ass. I will not lower myself to that.

If that means i have less clients. So be it. I'll manage.

Anyways im done with the drama. Sorry it didnt work out. I wish you the best moving forward.

Take care.

Should I post up the nice email I wrote you asking you what you were going to do for me???
I nicely asked for you how you were gonna address the situation, and you basically gave me a big fuck you, accused me of being Pareto and everything.

So here you are. We definitely can put all the details out for people to judge how you act.
You are right, I am 1 less client you are losing from this...But I hope others see what you are doing and choose another source as well.

 

[cflow69]

How i treated you? Respect goes both ways buddy. You dont give me any, dont expect it in return. Im not going to kiss anyone's ass. I will not lower myself to that.

If that means i have less clients. So be it. I'll manage.

Anyways im done with the drama. Sorry it didnt work out. I wish you the best moving forward.

Take care.

@Steve84 Did nothing but try to help you out with business as far as I'm concerned. Why the heck are you acting like this . Is it just me or can this guy not handle the fact and admit his stuff is crap . Who tests 200 mg under par ?