Source code of conduct rough draft

[stomps]

@Italianmuscle
Now don't take this as a shot at ya but aren't you a rep for naps?
My apologies if I'm mistaken.
But if you are my opinion is you shouldn't get to make suggestions to the coc as you are involved with a source so to speak.
Regular however to my knowledge reps or pushes no one so his opinion Carrys more weight.
I think most members will agree anyone involved with a source shouldn't get a vote on terms of the coc.
Just my .2 cents.

 

[regular]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were perfectly legal just highly monitored?

Tableting and encapsulating machines are among the few equipment items on the DEA's publicly reported "Special Surveillance List." The DEA monitors other equipment and chemical sales unofficially too. The DEA is able to place someone who owns one of these machines under surveillance.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/chem_prog/advisories/surveillance.htm

Anyway Regular I think most members can agree we would love any input you have for the coc

Thanks, I'll try to help out.

 

[Voltrader]

Oh, now its changed. How come? Like I said before, I said this was a bad idea, and you fucking clowns, were on my case every time I posted this.. Unreal..

You asked I thought I tell you. I actually don!t see it much different then you or regular do. You choose to be an ass that's all.

My .02 cents we knew when K came on the first time he was going to be in pics or no pics. If you are major operation you will be able to meet all criteria except the pic one. Stellar references should be know problem if you are a established major operation. We have not had anyone but K have any references that have tried to come on board yet. So really the pic part has been a mute point anyways.

The pics for an upstart to post an autoclave or hood can not be that big of a deal it is way of showing that they are serious about doing business because they have no references it is almost like you have to have one or the other.

Pics or stellar references. We get to decide if those references are acceptable.

Me personally I sure would rather have some vets referring an incoming source then a picture of a autoclave and a hood.

The two most successful sources here have met the CoC and as I have always said the community wants pic's I stand with the members and the CoC.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

You asked I thought I tell you. I actually don!t see it much different then you or regular do. You choose to be an ass that's all.



My .02 cents we knew when K came on the first time he was going to be in pics or no pics. If you are major operation you will be able to meet all criteria except the pic one. Stellar references should be know problem if you are a established major operation. We have not had anyone but K have any references that have tried to come on board yet. So really the pic part has been a mute point anyways.



The pics for an upstart to post an autoclave or hood can not be that big of a deal it is way of showing that they are serious about doing business because they have no references it is almost like you have to have one or the other.



Pics or stellar references. We get to decide if those references are acceptable.



Me personally I sure would rather have some vets referring an incoming source then a picture of a autoclave and a hood.



The two most successful sources here have met the CoC and as I have always said the community wants pic's I stand with the members and the CoC.

YES!! The CoC is for NEW sources as I understand it, not someone that's vouched for and has been at it for years..

IMO if these new fucks want to make it here they need to take on whatever additional "risks" go with posting pics.. If not, go pay sponsor fees!!

Regular makes some valid points as far as the authenticity of the pics but I assure you they won't be able to get away with stealing a pic that's already on the internet.. It at least weeds out the bottom of the barrel scammers which in this game are most of the new sources posting here looking for a free ride.

 

[Voltrader]

Another thing I was thinking in the background on PM we should choose who is going to sample maybe we can set up a way to pay for the samples or afterwards have the source agree to a credit. No more volunteer guinea pigs that the source knows who it! s going to be. We can have potential volunteers PM a member and then choose (I don't think you have to be a vet but maybe more than 50 posts) we can have a guinea pig selection board were members rotate in and out of so it too can't be blamed for suspicious activity......once received we can disclose. I personally give you guys that run samples a round of applause because I doubt I would ever do that. Just more thoughts this seems to be an issue that comes up.

 

[corageon]

Agreed the last one you can't enforce. That was a bit of a poke at a vet here who was a rep. I hope he will come out. I hope all of us can stay on track on this thread and not talk about the superbowl.

Nice avi! Bane is the shit.

 

[corageon]

@Italianmuscle
Now don't take this as a shot at ya but aren't you a rep for naps?
My apologies if I'm mistaken.
But if you are my opinion is you shouldn't get to make suggestions to the coc as you are involved with a source so to speak.
Regular however to my knowledge reps or pushes no one so his opinion Carrys more weight.
I think most members will agree anyone involved with a source shouldn't get a vote on terms of the coc.
Just my .2 cents.

Naps has a public affiliate program. Anyone can join and be a "rep".

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Nice avi! Bane is the shit.

What happened to your big fucking night out? [)]

Tell you what, I'll leave your fake ass alone if you stay in men's health..

 

[pabstblue]

1. Pics and description of brewing process.

2.Secure email that that does not include safemail.
-a. Pgp encryption highly recommended

3. Full disclosure.
- a. Who are your reps/schills don't try to be sneaky we almost always catch
On
-b. If free gear is given name who it was given to

4. References. Do you source at other boards.

5. Sources limited to one thread pushing their product.

6. If source had a website it cannot be hosted in the U.S.

Highly recommended

1. Pgp encryption

2. Bit coin payment option

3. Set up an escrow service

4. Donate fund to labmax for random testing by members.[/QUOTE] Stomps

 

[corageon]

What happened to your big fucking night out? [)]

Tell you what, I'll leave your fake ass alone if you stay in men's health..

Tell ya what. That's not gonna happen. I'm still out. I'm posting from a mobile. Got an hour drive ahead of us.

 

[regular]

This is what Ive been telling these clowns here for months. I was ridiculed, and pretty much spit at for saying something similar to you.

You and I see eye to eye on this IM. We're saying the same thing different ways.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were perfectly legal just highly monitored?
Anyway Regular I think most members can agree we would love any input you have for the coc

You can get a pill press on ebay, or order one from China or another EU country..Sure! But they are monitored by the DEA. You think a joe schmoe isnt going to be watched when he gets one? Why would Joe need a pill press. If you arent a legitimate, licensed lab, you are going to be looked at even more.

Italianhustler, the troll of the year award goes to you. You must be a terrible person to know in real life.

I would love to engage in an intelligent debate with you but you lack the common sense required. Your skull is so thick,a pick axe could not penetrate it.

When ever you want to meet face to face, name it tough guy. I would love for you to say that to my face. You wouldnt get two words out before I bitched slapped you across your face..

I used to cook up big eights in pyrex. Whip with my favorite giant whisk in a giant metal bowl. .. got scratched and product stuck in it somethin fierce even with my sick spatula/wrist game, but I had great yields with that bowl- my lucky bowl. I could turn eight into eleven and that shit would have them coming back to me or going to the hospital.

My point?

The shit you could have scraped out of that pyrex would have gotten me 10-15. Now, lets be clear, I was never stupid enough TO ADVERTISE THE FACT I WAS SELLING NARCOTICS ON THE FUCKING INTERNET- NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ACTUALLY SELLING DRUGS TO RANDOM PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW FROM ADAM RESPONDING TO THOSE ADVERTISEMENTS.

So let that point resonate with obvious ring that these public suppliers are not particulary concerned with safety, anonymity, keeping themselves out of the law enforcement eye.

so - my pyrex always had more than five grams of "big issue" product on it which puts it in the same manufacture and distribution category as a pill press... just having it was the crime, and if I was already advertising the fact that I sold pills and other illegal steroids who fucking cares if I post some pictures of some generic product like Pyrex, lf hood, autoclave, or the mythical pill press? How is that dangerous where detailing the fact I ship illegal substances throughout the country and make profits I don't pay taxes on?

Is there a scratch on my autoclave that will lead them right to me? Doubt it. Lets be real- if they have it they use it. Pics mean something. Too stupid to use a real camera instead of your phone camera and they extract metadata from the pic? That's you being an idiot, not the pictures being a bad idea.

Pictures can say 1000 words, they can mean 1000s of different things. You, me, Regular, JohnnyBallz, can interpret them 4 different ways. You might as well just ask these guys to post a video. I dont see you guys asking Naps, ALP, or any other established lab to do this? Why?

 

[brutus79]

You can get a pill press on ebay, or order one from China or another EU country..Sure! But they are monitored by the DEA. You think a joe schmoe isnt going to be watched when he gets one? Why would Joe need a pill press. If you arent a legitimate, licensed lab, you are going to be looked at even more.



When ever you want to meet face to face, name it tough guy. I would love for you to say that to my face. You wouldnt get two words out before I bitched slapped you across your face..



Pictures can say 1000 words, they can mean 1000s of different things. You, me, Regular, JohnnyBallz, can interpret them 4 different ways. You might as well just ask these guys to post a video. I dont see you guys asking Naps, ALP, or any other established lab to do this? Why?

Because we know they aren't brewing in a bathtub. How do we know? Respected vets like Ben and mugzy say so. Not for nothing- you would and could be one of those vets giving the green light on labs if you weren't such a MEANIE to everyone on meso. I'm sure you don't care, but I figured I would point it out the fact that you could be hella more helpful here if you just show your soft, cuddly side more often.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Because we know they aren't brewing in a bathtub. How do we know? Respected vets like Ben and mugzy say so. Not for nothing- you would and could be one of those vets giving the green light on labs if you weren't such a MEANIE to everyone on meso. I'm sure you don't care, but I figured I would point it out the fact that you could be hella more helpful here if you just show your soft, cuddly side more often.

Ive been a dick on here, because most of you have nothing better to do that gang up on me and others. And there are guys still doing it. Its sorta like being an online bully. Ive been on these forums for over 10+ years, easily. And most of these so called vets here, arent even vets. I see CBS and Dr Jim are over at TID. I made a comment, and neither one of those 2, even has the balls to say anything to me over there. MMmmm, why?

I have $10K waiting for Dr Jim to prove to everyone that I posted fake HPLC HGH Tests, and to prove that I am scamming members. He cant and wont, because he has nothing, and he just looks stupid even saying something so ridiculous.

Anyways, you, JohnnyBallz and a few others have been kind enough to send me PMs, and I have no problems with you guys.. Its just the lies that are being said and spread by your so called vet dr jim.

 

[brutus79]

Ive been a dick on here, because most of you have nothing better to do that gang up on me and others. And there are guys still doing it. Its sorta like being an online bully. Ive been on these forums for over 10+ years, easily. And most of these so called vets here, arent even vets. I see CBS and Dr Jim are over at TID. I made a comment, and neither one of those 2, even has the balls to say anything to me over there. MMmmm, why?

I have $10K waiting for Dr Jim to prove to everyone that I posted fake HPLC HGH Tests, and to prove that I am scamming members. He cant and wont, because he has nothing, and he just looks stupid even saying something so ridiculous.

Anyways, you, JohnnyBallz and a few others have been kind enough to send me PMs, and I have no problems with you guys.. Its just the lies that are being said and spread by your so called vet dr jim.

Jim and I had a rough start as well... I have a rough start with just about everyone thanks to my "who the fuck do you think you are attitude". Respect must be earned over here too (not just Meso, but in brutus79 's world as well). I would really like for you to help us out here; being unmoderated every little is needed. You don't like certain people? I don't like certain people everywhere I go in life- real or digital.... I try not to let it dictate how I act or where I go. It's tough when you have a short fuse like I do. (We?)

Can a non vet like me say- hey IM! give us a hand here weeding out scammers, and bring your decade's worth of experience here and provide a good example of what can be done to not make scamming fuckheads get any kind of foothold here. Don't let the reactions of the few affect the many... I am not disrepecting those I am friends with that may not be your pals, just like you are not disrespecting millard by trolling the forum. We must present a unified front to be the most effective against thise that would poison us with bullshit products. We are all fighting the same battle here, but wasting time fighting each other is fucking crazy.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Jim and I had a rough start as well... I have a rough start with just about everyone thanks to my "who the fuck do you think you are attitude". Respect must be earned over here too (not just Meso, but in brutus79 's world as well). I would really like for you to help us out here; being unmoderated every little is needed. You don't like certain people? I don't like certain people everywhere I go in life- real or digital.... I try not to let it dictate how I act or where I go. It's tough when you have a short fuse like I do. (We?)

Can a non vet like me say- hey IM! give us a hand here weeding out scammers, and bring your decade's worth of experience here and provide a good example of what can be done to not make scamming fuckheads get any kind of foothold here. Don't let the reactions of the few affect the many... I am not disrepecting those I am friends with that may not be your pals, just like you are not disrespecting millard by trolling the forum. We must present a unified front to be the most effective against thise that would poison us with bullshit products. We are all fighting the same battle here, but wasting time fighting each other is fucking crazy.

dr jim is just a complete dick, I have no respect for him. CBS is another story. They have everyone fooled at TID, not me.

I can help you guys out here, not a problem. You want to rid this place of scammers? Just dont use any new ones that pop up on here..ITs very simple. Unless they are established like ALP or NAPs, then no thanks. It just saves everyone a headache. That code of conduct is a complete joke and a waste of time. You guys will realize it eventually, but I guess we have to learn from our mistakes. Eventually, you guys will see I was right all along..

 

[sable]

Tell ya what. That's not gonna happen. I'm still out. I'm posting from a mobile. Got an hour drive ahead of us.

Lets not kid our selves here, if u anyone thinks a source can comply with the coc to the t would bother go through with the flaming here is delusional...
. They are much well off in protected boards despite having to pay a hefty fees which they will make back in a blink of eyes. People have to understand the coc is a double edge sword. If someone are able to comply 80% with it, great.
But realistically most people or sources arent as fortunate as astro, an reshipper who was working for one of the most well known INT company with access to some equipment most people would not dare to order domestically with out getting under the radar.
If you think sources or people willing to put their freedom at risk just to start at a free board where they can be operating under much more protected payed board....it will never happen. Like i said we got lucky with astro, now everyone is expecting every other source to follow.
Dont get me wrong i like the coc. But i think we need to be more realistic with our expectations what they can comply to fellow meso brothas.

 

[sable]

***quote that by accident***

 

[brutus79]

dr jim is just a complete dick, I have no respect for him. CBS is another story. They have everyone fooled at TID, not me.

I can help you guys out here, not a problem. You want to rid this place of scammers? Just dont use any new ones that pop up on here..ITs very simple. Unless they are established like ALP or NAPs, then no thanks. It just saves everyone a headache. That code of conduct is a complete joke and a waste of time. You guys will realize it eventually, but I guess we have to learn from our mistakes. Eventually, you guys will see I was right all along..

Let me be clear- I do not and would not use a public source here or anywhere. I don't fight this battle in any way, shape or form for my own benefit. This is for the guy with no referrals, experience or choice who is going to take what he can get. Alp is private more often than not and naps is international.... quite often domestic seems like a better choice- probably a function of our instant graitifcation-prone society. These fuckheads feed on this shit.

So since we have established that a "just don't buy from any of them" approach will not yield fruit while keeping in mind all these large companies were once small start up companies where do we go from here? How is the best way to discern who the "out to ass fuck us" 90% is opposed to those with morals and a desire to provide quality product?

 

[Big_paul]

You can get a pill press on ebay, or order one from China or another EU country..Sure! But they are monitored by the DEA. You think a joe schmoe isnt going to be watched when he gets one? Why would Joe need a pill press. If you arent a legitimate, licensed lab, you are going to be looked at even more.



When ever you want to meet face to face, name it tough guy. I would love for you to say that to my face. You wouldnt get two words out before I bitched slapped you across your face..



Pictures can say 1000 words, they can mean 1000s of different things. You, me, Regular, JohnnyBallz, can interpret them 4 different ways. You might as well just ask these guys to post a video. I dont see you guys asking Naps, ALP, or any other established lab to do this? Why?

IM others have done it. The photos that we are asking for are not incriminating. If someone has a pill press, then I assume it is already in place and operating. I looked into getting one myself. A photo of a pill press isn't as important as the sterilization process, or testing raws. I'm not going to bullshit anyone and at first I had reservations as well. 3 months into it, guys are getting good gear and gear they can fell confident is sterile.
Bro it seems like every time I see you post, your are having it out with the brothers on this board. Be a part of things and back something we have going, that as far as I am concerned is working as planned.
This is what is happening here now and it isn't going to change. You have been in this game for some time like myself and I am certain you have your own sources, so what is the problem? you have yours, I have mine and this board has the ones who do what we ask for the safety of our members.
Man this shit is getting old. How about we all head in the same direction.