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I have no idea on how to press pills or fill caps... but the process of it does interest me.
I like the ‘idea’ of pills over caps but not if they aren’t being accurately dosed!

I’ve only found one oral that I actually like and that’s cialis lol. The rest I’ve tried didn’t do shit for me. I feel like I get better results from short ester Injectables. Funny how everyone responds differently :D

Anyway... Leo @SpartaPharmaUSA whats the end goal here? Run til you get too noticeable then rebrand again? I mean doing that can only last so long right?
I’m asking because you’re on 4 different boards promoting your brand. I’m not sure how many orders you get per day or week but its a huge possibility that you will eventually start overextending yourself and that’s usually when quality along with other things start to fail.

Why 4 boards though?

I’ll speculate somewhat here:

is it to get as much exposure so you can get in as many orders as possible as fast as possible to empty your stock pile and then cash out? Then move to Bangkok and watch your wife pleasure herself with that vibrating dildo you bought her while a ladyboy pleasures you!? :eek:
I can see right through you! o_O

Note: ladyboys/shemales are so funny to me. That shit cracks me up!! Crazy times we live in :D
 
bolder said:
I have no idea on how to press pills or fill caps... but the process of it does interest me.
I like the ‘idea’ of pills over caps but not if they aren’t being accurately dosed!

I’ve only found one oral that I actually like and that’s cialis lol. The rest I’ve tried didn’t do shit for me. I feel like I get better results from short ester Injectables. Funny how everyone responds differently :D

Anyway... Leo @SpartaPharmaUSA whats the end goal here? Run til you get too noticeable then rebrand again? I mean doing that can only last so long right?
I’m asking because you’re on 4 different boards promoting your brand. I’m not sure how many orders you get per day or week but its a huge possibility that you will eventually start overextending yourself and that’s usually when quality along with other things start to fail.

Why 4 boards though?

I’ll speculate somewhat here:

is it to get as much exposure so you can get in as many orders as possible as fast as possible to empty your stock pile and then cash out? Then move to Bangkok and watch your wife pleasure herself with that vibrating dildo you bought her while a ladyboy pleasures you!? :eek:
I can see right through you! o_O

Note: ladyboys/shemales are so funny to me. That shit cracks me up!! Crazy times we live in :D
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Holy shit. You just DaVinci coded the fuck out of this. I'm convinced now.

I've been enjoying calling Lionhead a ladyboy. I find it funny as well. The ones from the hangover in Thailand were hilarious. When she told old dude that she released inside of him, Lmao, I fell the fuck out. Wasn't expecting that.
 
Serious question, and I want you to stop and think before you answer, take your time and consult whoever you need to before typing.

How have you been business for over 3 years but you’re missing the most basic things?

For instance, you say you use a peri pump and but you’re only filtering into 500ml bottles? Peri pumps and capsule filters should be filtering liters upon liters at a time

The pressure cooker, regardless of the studies or if a pressure cooker works or not. A legit autoclave cuts down on time and expense in the operation and much easier to use. They allow you to get perfect sterile vials every time instead of buying pre-sterile like you are now. Once you break that pre-sterile pack open you have to use every single vial.

You’ve been in business you claim for over 3 years but primo hasn’t been added? I know to get bulk price for a kilo it’s $15k and thats a lot of money, but sourcing on multiple boards for 3+ years you should have the money for an inventory cost like that. You’ve already made 2 cap-ex expenses on presses and mixers but not for primo?

The sterile vials and stoppers also; I’d expect a rookie to buy sterile vials and stoppers because they don’t have the ability to sterilize them efficiently with a pressure cooker, all of that is expensive. But as they get bigger they first thing they get is a big autoclave so they can buy cheap vials and sterilize them in the lab.

You see where all of this looks suspicious? 3+ years and you’ve got a mix of expenses that are in random order. From the outside looking in it’s like you’re not a 3 year business but a rookie that spent money on bling to grab attention; labels, press, hood, color coordinated caps, peri pump, etc. all the big boy items of a serious shop but you’re lacking the basics that any shop would have acquired over a period of 3 years.

I hope y’all get your shit together and figure out how to be a dependable source, but you’re losing my vote of confidence for doing things backwards.
 
TX_Hempknight said:
Holy shit. You just DaVinci coded the fuck out of this. I'm convinced now.

I've been enjoying calling Lionhead a ladyboy. I find it funny as well. The ones from the hangover in Thailand were hilarious. When she told old dude that she released inside of him, Lmao, I fell the fuck out. Wasn't expecting that.
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That shit was fucking hilarious! When (s)he said they came at the same time and it confused Stew was funny af! He was like (weird faced) ???
Then told him (s)he cummed inside him and he cummed in the floor at the same time. That it was beautiful....

that shit killed me! Hahaha!! :D
 
mp46 said:
Serious question, and I want you to stop and think before you answer, take your time and consult whoever you need to before typing.

I will get serious with you now.

How have you been business for over 3 years but you’re missing the most basic things?
We have addressed this several times as you may recall. We are in the process of buying an autoclave as we speak. Addressed several times.

For instance, you say you use a peri pump and but you’re only filtering into 500ml bottles? Peri pumps and capsule filters should be filtering liters upon liters at a time
In that picture we had smaller media as we were processing compounds that are not as much in demand. If you recall from the picture posted we showed several larger media bottles. there are other explanations besides assuming the worst at every turn. I understand that is you job to heavily scrutinize sources, however there are other possible outcomes. I hope this can assist with a bit of a paradigm shift for you regarding this matter.
Addressed.

The pressure cooker, regardless of the studies or if a pressure cooker works or not. A legit autoclave cuts down on time and expense in the operation and much easier to use. They allow you to get perfect sterile vials every time instead of buying pre-sterile like you are now. Once you break that pre-sterile pack open you have to use every single vial.

You’ve been in business you claim for over 3 years but primo hasn’t been added? I know to get bulk price for a kilo it’s $15k and thats a lot of money, but sourcing on multiple boards for 3+ years you should have the money for an inventory cost like that. You’ve already made 2 cap-ex expenses on presses and mixers but not for primo?
When we shut down the old lab, we got rid of everything. Insert your opinion here about how that's not smart, however I am a paranoid individual. I will not store processing equipment in any location for a period of time. We started from scratch when we made this current lab. We bought the necessary equipment to safely and efficiently process everything we needed. Primo not in? We're squabbling now it seems. We are adding in compounds as they are requested by consumers. We have added in more than several since we began, and are adding them in one by one still. We have a lot of compounds, and as you may be aware they move at different rates. We add in a compound and gauge the demand on it based on sales over time. We will not add things in simply because a member on a board scrutinizes our lack of that compound. We will add them in based on customer base demand.

The sterile vials and stoppers also; I’d expect a rookie to buy sterile vials and stoppers because they don’t have the ability to sterilize them efficiently with a pressure cooker, all of that is expensive. But as they get bigger they first thing they get is a big autoclave so they can buy cheap vials and sterilize them in the lab.
We have found a source for sterile vials and stoppers now that WE TRUST. We did not before as we had no source for them that we deemed sufficiently. I refuse to purchase sterile consumables from a source that is not vetted fully(I'm sure you can relate with pre-vetting before purchases). We have found such a source and now utilize their services.

You see where all of this looks suspicious? 3+ years and you’ve got a mix of expenses that are in random order. From the outside looking in it’s like you’re not a 3 year business but a rookie that spent money on bling to grab attention; labels, press, hood, color coordinated caps, peri pump, etc. all the big boy items of a serious shop but you’re lacking the basics that any shop would have acquired over a period of 3 years.
"Mix of expenses in random order" Based on who's order? Listen, we had opportunities to obtain these pieces of equipment safely, and anonymously. Simply because it's not in the order you'd deem "correct" does not mean it is incorrect by any means. Our safety in obtaining equipment in a fashion that is safe is paramount to your vantage point and perspective.

I hope y’all get your shit together and figure out how to be a dependable source, but you’re losing my vote of confidence for doing things backwards.
Backwards is subjective in this situation as we are processing oils and tabs in a fashion that is safe for consumers. The fact that we are lacking one piece of equipment that you prefer over the one we are currently using(and in the process of upgrading as I type this) does not lower the quality of product we are producing.

Edit: I appreciate all your input and feedback. Don't get me wrong.
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bolder said:
I have no idea on how to press pills or fill caps... but the process of it does interest me.
I like the ‘idea’ of pills over caps but not if they aren’t being accurately dosed!

I’ve only found one oral that I actually like and that’s cialis lol. The rest I’ve tried didn’t do shit for me. I feel like I get better results from short ester Injectables. Funny how everyone responds differently :D

Anyway... Leo @SpartaPharmaUSA whats the end goal here? Run til you get too noticeable then rebrand again? I mean doing that can only last so long right?
I’m asking because you’re on 4 different boards promoting your brand. I’m not sure how many orders you get per day or week but its a huge possibility that you will eventually start overextending yourself and that’s usually when quality along with other things start to fail.

Why 4 boards though?

I’ll speculate somewhat here:

is it to get as much exposure so you can get in as many orders as possible as fast as possible to empty your stock pile and then cash out? Then move to Bangkok and watch your wife pleasure herself with that vibrating dildo you bought her while a ladyboy pleasures you!? :eek:
I can see right through you! o_O

Note: ladyboys/shemales are so funny to me. That shit cracks me up!! Crazy times we live in :D
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Damn I've been pegged. Wait let me rephrase that haha

Two of those boards are smaller, and don't produce many orders. The way we have our shipping operation designed is very efficient and we can easily keep up with the demand placed on us from orders on all boards. I calculate the risk before going for the reward. If we were ever start getting overwhelmed I have a few fail safes that we can put into place to make sure we do not get behind on orders and degrade our customer service that we are very proud of.
 
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bolder said:
That shit was fucking hilarious! When (s)he said they came at the same time and it confused Stew was funny af! He was like (weird faced) ???
Then told him (s)he cummed inside him and he cummed in the floor at the same time. That it was beautiful....

that shit killed me! Hahaha!! :D
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I kind of want to know, but then again I kind of don't?
 
SpartaPharmaUSA said:
Damn I've been pegged. Wait let me rephrase that haha

Tow of those boards are smaller, and don't produce many orders. If it The way we have our shipping operation designed is very efficient and we can easily keep up with the demand placed on us from orders on all boards. I calculate the risk before going for the reward. If we were ever start getting overwhelmed I have a few fail safes that we can put into place to make sure we do not get behind on orders and degrade our customer service that we are very proud of.
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What are your fail safes?
 
Mighty-mouse said:
What are your fail safes?
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1) We are implementing a minimum order amount to urge customers to combine their orders instead of piece ordering.
2) We have a trusted individual that we can utilize for assistance on shipping if it comes to that point.
3) If we get to the point where I foresee getting swamped to be an issue I will take the necessary time to shut shop for X days to to prevent a back log of orders.
4) Not so much a fail safe, however I am very proactive on issues like this. I will always take the time to make a quick update if we need to in order to keep members aware of a short shut down or an out of stock item.
 
I just got done doing legs, so forgive me if there's not a lot of blood in my brain right now and you may need to break some of this down like a toddler for me

SpartaPharmaUSA said:
We have addressed this several times as you may recall. We are in the process of buying an autoclave as we speak. Addressed several times.
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I get that you're buying a clave now, we're passed that. The question now is how/why did you go over 3 years without one?

In that picture we had smaller media as we were processing compounds that are not as much in demand. If you recall from the picture posted we showed several larger media bottles. there are other explanations besides assuming the worst at every turn. I understand that is you job to heavily scrutinize sources, however there are other possible outcomes. I hope this can assist with a bit of a paradigm shift for you regarding this matter.
Addressed.
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1) it's not my job to scrutinize sources, I mostly do it for fun and recently some members have asked me to step it up because it brings awareness to uneducated people the things they should look for. As annoying as you may think people like me and MM are and we're just trying to make you fail, if you STFU and answer the questions without getting defensive, people on the fence about ordering will likely hop over to your side

2) I highly suggest you get a grasp on concepts like landed cost, holding cost, and opportunity cost. The smaller the batch the more inconsistencies in the product over the life of the raws. If you have enough raw for 10L but make 250ml batches there's 40 batches and 40 ways to mess it up. if you make 5L batches with a peri pump that's 8 batches to track and only 8 instances the brewer gets something wrong. Basically, once you test your raws(which you don't right now) make as much as you can in single batches. Your landed cost goes down, your holding cost goes up, and your opportunity cost goes up. There's some more I can explain about this but I'll move on for now.

When we shut down the old lab, we got rid of everything. Insert your opinion here about how that's not smart, however I am a paranoid individual. I will not store processing equipment in any location for a period of time. We started from scratch when we made this current lab. We bought the necessary equipment to safely and efficiently process everything we needed.
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You're paranoid, so you took the risk of selling everything related to brewing, to who and how? on the "black" market to a possible law man or to some regular joe on the open market because what ever you sold wasn't illegal. Either way, that's irrelevant, my point is that when you got back in business you either bought everything underground and took a risk with the law or you bought it on the open market and someone has a record of the transaction. So in your scenario you were paranoid but got rid of stuff then bought it all again? When instead you could have shoved it all in a back room or storage unit and no one would give a fuck. The only thing in your brewing operation you need to worry about is the press, it's legal to own everything but that press.

Primo not in? We're squabbling now it seems. We are adding in compounds as they are requested by consumers. We have added in more than several since we began, and are adding them in one by one still. We have a lot of compounds, and as you may be aware they move at different rates. We add in a compound and gauge the demand on it based on sales over time. We will not add things in simply because a member on a board scrutinizes our lack of that compound. We will add them in based on customer base demand.
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I'm not squabbling over anything. You've been in business for over 3 years and never had enough demand for Primo across multiple boards? So when you stopped business as whatever lab, you hadn't figured out what people wanted in those 3 years and brought those products back this time?

We have found a source for sterile vials and stoppers now that WE TRUST. We did not before as we had no source for them that we deemed sufficiently. I refuse to purchase sterile consumables from a source that is not vetted fully(I'm sure you can relate with pre-vetting before purchases). We have found such a source and now utilize their services.
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Again, we're back to landed cost, holding cost, etc. Sterile vials need to be stored and integrity maintained the entire time, how do you all store it and what precautions are taken to ensure they stay sterile (holding cost). Your landed cost is through the roof because it's way more expensive to buy sterile than to sterilize yourself. And again, I could dive into more business practices that show how your approach is rookie but I digress.

"Mix of expenses in random order" Based on who's order? Listen, we had opportunities to obtain these pieces of equipment safely, and anonymously. Simply because it's not in the order you'd deem "correct" does not mean it is incorrect by any means. Our safety in obtaining equipment in a fashion that is safe is paramount to your vantage point and perspective.
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based on the order of how business is conducted. Look into GAAP and you'll probably get a better understanding of how finances in business work when it comes to assets, capital expenditures, and depreciation, also ROI in relation to business growth and reach to the customer. Once you get a handle on accounting the financial side starts to become more clear, and yes finance and accounting are different subjects.

Backwards is subjective in this situation as we are processing oils and tabs in a fashion that is safe for consumers. The fact that we are lacking one piece of equipment that you prefer over the one we are currently using(and in the process of upgrading as I type this) does not lower the quality of product we are producing.
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Backwards is not subjective; successful businesses whether underground or legit operate certain ways because it brings the fastest, most stable growth to the business. You took a silicon valley approach of razzle dazzle clients then fix everything on the back end. Again, a lot of these supply chain and marketing things should have been learned over 3 years.

Edit: I appreciate all your input and feedback. Don't get me wrong.
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I'd appreciate if you learned to split quote, makes everything easy to read and looks professional as fuck.
 
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