Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[mands]

Also, why did Mands and the other long-time Meso vets who "privately" vetted Stanford allow him to log in as XKahn and disparage other sources, as well as tell Sym he wasn't charging enough for his gear so he should raise his prices?

It looks shady as fuck that Mands and the other vets who knew XKahn = Stanford looked the other way and said absolutely nothing when Stanford "pretended" to be XKahn and talked crap about other sources in their threads.

I do not think these "Golden" long-time vets of Meso who privately vetted Stanford are really our friends at all. They are in it for themselves.

I’m not really sure if you read any of my post but I haven’t vetted anyone. And maybe that’s the issue here. Perhaps I could of pursued it further but I’ve already explained what happened.

I didn’t know XkawN personally. I knew him on the board and put two and two together when he posted as Stan and did some research. That’s why I posted in the Stanford thread asking if he was a former member.

If you need further explanation feel free to PM me.

mands

 

[jackdiggler]

Who you think started this thread? Lol.

Is MLI your guess or am I missing something ?

 

[dumbbellpress]

I still fucking hate how this was handled but we are here now, an nothing I have to say is changing that. So I digress.

I spent a chunk of my morning going through xkawns post history. I’d say from an opsec standpoint I’d be cleaning house if I were Stan, not trying to go private. I see about 25 posts that are extremely concerning. Around 5 posts imo could lead straight to a name and ip.

Excellent post Desert Warrior!! And Stanford is quite cognizant of the fact there is a tremendous amount of incriminating evidence out there on himself from his posts as XKahn. As I type this post right now, make no mistake Stanford is already planning his exit scam strategy. It is not a matter of (if) Stanford is gonna exit scam the good dudes here on Meso. It is just a matter of "when" Stanford is gonna exit scam. A month from now, 2 months from now, 3 months from now....etc... Stanford knows there is a paper trail from his posts as XKahn that will lead the "Bad Guys" straight to him as Stanford. That is why this very second he is planning his exit scam strategy.

You guys are way too trusting. If you had been burned as many times as some of us long time members, such as myself, you would not be so trusting of a dude like Stanford.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I got my very first pack from Stanford exactly:

3.5835616438 years ago.

Damnit I hate being wrong but you're right. That source I got that package from was TSL labs not Stanford. Youd be correct he showed up here October 27th 2017. I got my first pack from him exactly 18 days after his first post. Still 2.86 years is a lot of fricking sales and he was selling prior to that as well off the radar. No health complaints levied against him at any point.

 

[dumbbellpress]

Damnit I hate being wrong but you're right. That source I got that package from was TSL labs not Stanford. Youd be correct he showed up here October 27th 2017. I got my first pack from him exactly 18 days after his first post. Still 2.86 years is a lot of fricking sales and he was selling prior to that as well off the radar. No health complaints levied against him at any point.

It's OK man, no big deal. I hope you stick around Meso and continue to post here even though you have decided to go the legit route / TRT. I like reading your posts. You are a very knowledgeable member and I have learned a lot from you here. Keep on posting.

Listen to me carefully though - do NOT send Stanford any money. You are gonna lose your money if you do. Stanford knows he has been compromised. He is no longer in this gig for the long run. This is now a short-time thing for him to steal as much money from members as he possibly can before he exit scams.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Excellent post Desert Warrior!! And Stanford is quite cognizant of the fact there is a tremendous amount of incriminating evidence out there on himself from his posts as XKahn. As I type this post right now, make no mistake Stanford is already planning his exit scam strategy. It is not a matter of (if) Stanford is gonna exit scam the good dudes here on Meso. It is just a matter of "when" Stanford is gonna exit scam. A month from now, 2 months from now, 3 months from now....etc... Stanford knows there is a paper trail from his posts as XKahn that will lead the "Bad Guys" straight to him as Stanford. That is why this very second he is planning his exit scam strategy.

You guys are way too trusting. If you had been burned as many times as some of us long time members, such as myself, you would not be so trusting of a dude like Stanford.

You gotta ask yourself why you've been burned so many times though man? I've made a lot of purchases in the last 10 years off of at least a half dozen sources and never have I ever been burned cept for one bunk vial of test e out of a 3 vial order from Darius/Pcom.

I mean I dont know how we'd make the bet whole and I'm not trying to be a dick but I got $20 on Stan going out with all customers whole and not pulling the exit scam. It does happen where sources close shop not having burned anyone on the way out. My money would usually be on the scam but I've dealt with the man a lot and hes done some things for me that he didn't need to do that has earned my respect for him as a person source status aside.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

You gotta ask yourself why you've been burned so many times though man? I've made a lot of purchases in the last 10 years off of at least a half dozen sources and never have I ever been burned cept for one bunk vial of test e out of a 3 vial order from Darius/Pcom.

I mean I dont know how we'd make the bet whole and I'm not trying to be a dick but I got $20 on Stan going out with all customers whole and not pulling the exit scam. It does happen where sources close shop not having burned anyone on the way out. My money would usually be on the scam but I've dealt with the man a lot and hes done some things for me that he didn't need to do that has earned my respect for him as a person source status aside.

I'm sorry if it felt that way but I didn't mean to be a dick in that first part. I may just have been lucky for 10 years but I've had a good run and have always gotten what's paid for cept for that one time.

I did get some underdosed shit locally though from a friend but I was reimbursed for it so technically I didn't get burned lpl.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Damnit I didnt get the entire post in my quote.

 

[Oldschool]

Well, right about the “behind the scenes” stuff. That’s the shit that sucks here. It was organized from the start with the vets that gave the G2G. The first few pages of the initial Stanny thread are cringeworthy.

Meanwhile we kick sources and reps out of all threads except their own but xkawn was free to roam around the cabin.

None of that is consistent with the way stuff is “supposed” to be done here. It makes MESO no better than the backslapping BoP or ASF forums where vets give the “good to go” and “fyre” reviews to lure noobs into buying from certain preferred labs.

So yea, with regard to behind the scenes shit, I’d say they were spot on.

Btw, we all know the member that was willing to trade vials for weed. Anyone wonder how many vials he had in his stock? How did he get all those? They were obviously free from Stan. And the way he tells it “it was to help him get on his feet”. That sounds like a couple vials to me. But he apparently had enough to PM a bunch of dudes to barter. His services must have been worth something to Stan then.

Excuse me if I’m wrong but Dyna is selling oil. I haven’t seen a lab set up either? If I’m wrong I will eat it.

 

[Regular Joe]

I know I'm new here but why are people defending a homebrewer not wanting to take pics of his lab? Sym came off very smart and had great pics of his first lab(which I think was someone else's) and when he moved labs (probably to his kitchen) he was super offended to show pics of the new lab and then, well floaters started showing up. If you are going to home brew and something happens to shut you down asking for recent pics of the equipment is not a big ask.

 

[Oldschool]

I know I'm new here but why are people defending a homebrewer not wanting to take pics of his lab? Sym came off very smart and had great pics of his first lab(which I think was someone else's) and when he moved labs (probably to his kitchen) he was super offended to show pics of the new lab and then, well floaters started showing up. If you are going to home brew and something happens to shut you down asking for recent pics of the equipment is not a big ask.

Maybe because he’s had a squeaky clean record of sending properly dosed gear free of floaters and if it’s late getting there he adequately makes it right? Everyone talking about OPSEC but you want the brewer some dumb fucks have put on blast because their miserable attempt at sourcing failed to just drop and head to the lab? Just like the accusations of him dealing narcotics? And I might add the boss of this forum was accused of the same thing by the same folks?

 

[T&H]

Who you think started this thread? Lol.

Funny thing. Mac asked you why you even assumed this earlier in this thread, and you never bothered to respond to him. If I didn't know any better, I'd say your feelings are still hurt because no one invited you to some super secret discord.

And now, other guys who have no idea are making up some nonsense because it sounds cool. And you're accusing mac of other motives, after you go on and on about discord and attacking other members for shit a year ago or longer. Give me a break you clown.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Well, right about the “behind the scenes” stuff. That’s the shit that sucks here. It was organized from the start with the vets that gave the G2G. The first few pages of the initial Stanny thread are cringeworthy.

Meanwhile we kick sources and reps out of all threads except their own but xkawn was free to roam around the cabin.

None of that is consistent with the way stuff is “supposed” to be done here. It makes MESO no better than the backslapping BoP or ASF forums where vets give the “good to go” and “fyre” reviews to lure noobs into buying from certain preferred labs.

So yea, with regard to behind the scenes shit, I’d say they were spot on.

Btw, we all know the member that was willing to trade vials for weed. Anyone wonder how many vials he had in his stock? How did he get all those? They were obviously free from Stan. And the way he tells it “it was to help him get on his feet”. That sounds like a couple vials to me. But he apparently had enough to PM a bunch of dudes to barter. His services must have been worth something to Stan then.

I really need to go back and read that opening thread. I'd like to see how it all went down again. I remember reading his opening post stating he had "extra" tren or something like that. And then it goes blank and I dont remember much after that. I needed a source at that time cause I was previously using TSL who went tits up. I reached out to Stan and he reached out to a few meso veta who vouched for me and that's how I initially got on with him. And I really did think Stanford was TSL rebranded for the longest time right up until this thread popped up.

 

[Oldschool]

Funny thing. Mac asked you why you even assumed this earlier in this thread, and you never bothered to respond to him. If I didn't know any better, I'd say your feelings are still hurt because no one invited you to some super secret discord.

And now, other guys who have no idea are making up some nonsense because it sounds cool. And you're accusing mac of other motives, after you go on and on about discord and attacking other members for shit a year ago or longer. Give me a break you clown.

You never answered my question you marathon running bitch. You ever recruit for discord with great sources as the draw?

 

[RGL90]

Lol, here we go , popcorn

 

[Oldschool]

Funny thing. Mac asked you why you even assumed this earlier in this thread, and you never bothered to respond to him. If I didn't know any better, I'd say your feelings are still hurt because no one invited you to some super secret discord.

You sure I’m not there? Lol

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Excuse me if I’m wrong but Dyna is selling oil. I haven’t seen a lab set up either? If I’m wrong I will eat it.

I don’t think so man. He just sells domestic raws. I don’t see oils anywhere on his price list.

I’m pretty sure that would be bad for his business to sell finished product too.

 

[T&H]

You never answered my question you marathon running bitch. You ever recruit for discord with great sources as the draw?

You sure I’m not there? Lol

Marathon running bitch? Lmao, that made me lol.

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about with the source thing, so no. And you on discord? You're apparently only a member of one forum which is meso, so you're full of shit saying you're on discord.

 

[Oldschool]

Marathon running bitch? Lmao, that made me lol.

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about with the source thing, so no. And you on discord? You're apparently only a member of one forum which is meso, so you're full of shit saying you're on discord.

You are the one full of shit. I have proof you recruited a member for discord. I can send it to you if you’d like my little bitch. Please give me permission to post a message from you since you are innocent as charged. Right here and out in the open. Lol

 

[Logan44551]

Excuse me if I’m wrong but Dyna is selling oil. I haven’t seen a lab set up either? If I’m wrong I will eat it.

Shredded didn't post pics either I don't think