Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

I’m in these discords because of stayed friendly with most people. Can assure you there was no organized effort to do anything like this because of MLI. He knew it was dumb to do what he did with zero effort to conceal identity as an ex member
You just contradicted what you stated to me a day or so ago? Lol. I’m done here.
 
Hard to not sound like a fanboy here but isn't it kinda like putting the condom on after you nuttted in her? Hes been sourcing for over 4 years and has never had a floater, infection, bad test, etc etc etc. I know he slipped through without proper vetting but 4+ years and thousands of vials sold has to account for something no? He obviously brews clean gear and knows more than the average fly by night shitbag that shows up on our doorstep just by the track record.

No Stanford has only been a source on Meso for 2 years 10 months. In the game of online / Internet AAS sources, 2 years and 10 months means Stanford is a newborn baby fresh off his Mother's teet.

I have known at least 12-13 sources in my years of being on the boards who had at least 5 to 6 years of excellent, trouble-free sourcing (more than double what Stanford has) who, at the blink of an eye, vanished and pulled off an exit scam with my money and many other customers' money. Hell, I, as well as many others, have even been scammed by sources with almost 10 years excellent sourcing.

Between the years of 2003 - 2010, OutlawMuscle had so many "Golden" sources....suddenly turn scammer at the drop of a hat, that I basically lost all faith in the honesty of internet AAS sources. I really have no faith at all in the honesty of internet AAS sources. Been burned too many times.

BigPappachump, you put wwwwaaaayyyy too much stock in the length of time a source has been honest and reliable. A so-called "Golden" source can pull off an exit scam so fast it will blind you. Stick around some more, you will unfortunately learn that. It really sucks that AAS are Schedule III. They shouldn't be. It shouldn't be so hard nor as risky for us meatheads to acquire gear.

I find it extremely odd that you find Stanford's 2 years and 10 months as some type of indication of his reliability / trustworthiness. Stanford can turn scammer in the blink of an eye (and I have seen this very thing happen way too many times).
 
No Stanford has only been a source on Meso for 2 years 10 months. In the game of online / Internet AAS sources, 2 years and 10 months means Stanford is a newborn baby fresh off his Mother's teet.

I have known at least 12-13 sources in my years of being on the boards who had at least 5 to 6 years of excellent, trouble-free sourcing (more than double what Stanford has) who, at the blink of an eye, vanished and pulled off an exit scam with my money and many other customers' money. Hell, I, as well as many others, have even been scammed by sources with almost 10 years excellent sourcing.

Between the years of 2003 - 2010, OutlawMuscle had so many "Golden" sources....suddenly turn scammer at the drop of a hat, that I basically lost all faith in the honesty of internet AAS sources. I really have no faith at all in the honesty of internet AAS sources. Been burned too many times.

BigPappachump, you put wwwwaaaayyyy too much stock in the length of time a source has been honest and reliable. A so-called "Golden" source can pull off an exit scam so fast it will blind you. Stick around some more, you will unfortunately learn that. It really sucks that AAS are Schedule III. They shouldn't be. It shouldn't be so hard nor as risky for us meatheads to acquire gear.

I find it extremely odd that you find Stanford's 2 years and 10 months as some type of indication of his reliability / trustworthiness. Stanford can turn scammer in the blink of an eye (and I have seen this very thing happen way too many times).
Hold on I'll get you an exact date of my first transaction with him and I know he was around for some time prior.
 
No Stanford has only been a source on Meso for 2 years 10 months. In the game of online / Internet AAS sources, 2 years and 10 months means Stanford is a newborn baby fresh off his Mother's teet.

I have known at least 12-13 sources in my years of being on the boards who had at least 5 to 6 years of excellent, trouble-free sourcing (more than double what Stanford has) who, at the blink of an eye, vanished and pulled off an exit scam with my money and many other customers' money. Hell, I, as well as many others, have even been scammed by sources with almost 10 years excellent sourcing.

Between the years of 2003 - 2010, OutlawMuscle had so many "Golden" sources....suddenly turn scammer at the drop of a hat, that I basically lost all faith in the honesty of internet AAS sources. I really have no faith at all in the honesty of internet AAS sources. Been burned too many times.

BigPappachump, you put wwwwaaaayyyy too much stock in the length of time a source has been honest and reliable. A so-called "Golden" source can pull off an exit scam so fast it will blind you. Stick around some more, you will unfortunately learn that. It really sucks that AAS are Schedule III. They shouldn't be. It shouldn't be so hard nor as risky for us meatheads to acquire gear.

I find it extremely odd that you find Stanford's 2 years and 10 months as some type of indication of his reliability / trustworthiness. Stanford can turn scammer in the blink of an eye (and I have seen this very thing happen way too many times).
Yes I know what youre trying to imply and I'm not saying that at all. Anyone can go scammer at anytime no one rises above that suspicion with me. I'm just saying asking for his sterilization process and everything else is kinda mute imo. Hes sold how much and how many complaints have ever come in about quality and cleanliness? The only quality issue I've ever heard of was his painful test E and it seems that was something that many sources were dealing with at the time even sources like DYEL and another big name I cant remember right now.
 
Will do. Just want it to be known that Mac gave up a client and Meso members personal info. Good luck to you.

As another OG member you have no comment on his lack of willingness to show his lab setup etc that he has been running for the past 3 years on here to quel peoples concerns?

Now it just seems like people are coming out of the woodwork to take sides. I'd expect all the OG members to 100% tell him to post the photos...
 
Will do. Just want it to be known that Mac gave up a client and Meso members personal info. Good luck to you.
Lol WHAT?

Because I don’t hide shit, if anyone’s curious of what the real story is here, DM me. Oh, and it’s all been disclosed and cleared with Millard, but not by favoritism, just by being a decent honest person. ;)
 
He was here before that brother. That's not his first thread on meso. That's when he went semi public but he was active on here as a private source prior.
And it was in the open as a prior source. He brewed up a bunch of something and sold the excess on here for a discount and took on some new clients in the process, I being one of them.
 
Lol WHAT?

Because I don’t hide shit, if anyone’s curious of what the real story is here, DM me. Oh, and it’s all been disclosed and cleared with Millard, but not by favoritism, just by being a decent honest person. ;)
You don’t hide shit but you want it to go to private message? :rolleyes:
 
I still fucking hate how this was handled but we are here now, an nothing I have to say is changing that. So I digress.

I spent a chunk of my morning going through xkawns post history. I’d say from an opsec standpoint I’d be cleaning house if I were Stan, not trying to go private. I see about 25 posts that are extremely concerning. Around 5 posts imo could lead straight to a name and ip.
 
About what? He has two handles? He told a source to raise his prices? How is that ruining another source? That bullshit with Millard and Stanny selling drugs? You know me BBBG. I call it straight and always admit when I’m wrong. And that’s not too often.

Well, right about the “behind the scenes” stuff. That’s the shit that sucks here. It was organized from the start with the vets that gave the G2G. The first few pages of the initial Stanny thread are cringeworthy.

Meanwhile we kick sources and reps out of all threads except their own but xkawn was free to roam around the cabin.

None of that is consistent with the way stuff is “supposed” to be done here. It makes MESO no better than the backslapping BoP or ASF forums where vets give the “good to go” and “fyre” reviews to lure noobs into buying from certain preferred labs.

So yea, with regard to behind the scenes shit, I’d say they were spot on.

Btw, we all know the member that was willing to trade vials for weed. Anyone wonder how many vials he had in his stock? How did he get all those? They were obviously free from Stan. And the way he tells it “it was to help him get on his feet”. That sounds like a couple vials to me. But he apparently had enough to PM a bunch of dudes to barter. His services must have been worth something to Stan then.
 
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