labs results will be higher following a 600mg injection vs. a 300mg injection...even if you're doing 300mg twice weekly to get 600mg/week.
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labs results will be higher following a 600mg injection vs. a 300mg injection...even if you're doing 300mg twice weekly to get 600mg/week.
SmokeEater84
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@StanfordPharma you planning on opening the shop back up soon bud?
Raisinballs
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Even when fully saturated? I didn’t think the dip would be that drastic with test cyp. I can’t remember who posted it but I believe there’s some kind of calculator out there that shows how much your test levels would decrease per day(obviously not everyone is the same) but gives an average idea.
yep, even when fully saturated...it's common sense, brotien. Whether it's week 1 or week 16, a 600mg injection will bump levels much more than a 300mg injection. Also, just because 600mg is twice as much as 300mg, doesn't mean your levels will automatically correspond the same...in other words, your levels may not double with a 600mg injection vs. a 300mg injection.
And those calculators are cool to play with, but they're just tools/guidelines...everyone responds a little differently.
So I live in a frozen climate. My DHB and test came crashed like an icicle. I’ve put them in my candle for about 2 hours and can’t get a few floaters to melt. I’ve always been able to get them to them to melt back. Anyone inject it like that? I can see them and just not suck them up. Would your body absorb them? Would you get an infection? Get a baseball size lump? Just curious
Either way, I’m satisfied with my levels and again apologize for posting the wrong labs! You responded amazingly though and that speaks volumes about you and your business. I made an error and ducked up and you immediately corrected it. Immediately! You’re a stand up source!
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Ehh.. You keep saying a 600mg dose will be higher than a 300mg dose. Well duh! It’s 300 x2 though. Sure levels won’t be as high as say 48 hrs after a 600mg injection but it won’t be a dramatic change. I’ve done my trt at split dose and single dose. On single I’m always 8x on my pharma. Double dose I was almost 7x. He’s not running prop here.
I believe his test results were a bit low because as Stan pointed out, he tested a bit early.
If you have access to an oven, set it to 275. Put the vial in an oven safe container...a bowl, pan, etc. for 10 minutes and it should clear everything up. I've had this problem before...injections are just fine, just want to make sure everything is dissolved, and that method has worked 100% of the time.
If I pinned my usual Monday morning dose before my doctors appointment, the levels would be much higher! It’s important for everyone to note my last pin was 3.5 days before my test!
On top of that, everyone’s physiology is different and one person may have lower levels than the next person at the same dose.
I think we're in agreement...I never said the results would be dramatically different. Lab results have been higher with labs subsequent to single injection cycles vs. biweekly injection cycles. It's just something to note when you see a guy complaining that his results are "10x" and he's doing 600mg/week but splitting 600mg with twice 300mg injections per week. He's getting labs xxhrs after a 300mg injection vs. the guy who got labs xxhrs after a 600mg injection.
To piggy-back this conversation, some people believe that cycling is better with higher dosed injections vs. splitting because you're able to bump your peaks higher.
Agreed! Single dose for a higher T score. Double split dose for a more consistent T level.
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Tonelover
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Pretty sure he said Thursday in an earlier post. Scroll back
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Everybody ducks up sometimes
I've been following along since you brought this out in the open. I know you've been around a long time and know you well from the TGI thread. I know you're a stand up guy and had no ill intent. Nothing like what Balco pulled.
Glad you got it all sorted. I'm very impressed with how calm, giving, and professional Stan handled it all. Much respect to the man. Nice to see you still around ShredMN.
Dude, at 220 and 10% you're a beast. I was a twig in high school as well with an ectomorph body type. So I know how hard it is. Took alot of work to go from 170 in my 30's to 210 in my 40's.
I've seen your transformations and how consistent you are. Give yourself a break once in a while!
Stanford, when you say that your Test Enan 300 is "mostly Test Cyp", can you go into a little more detail? Like is it approximately 180mg Test Cyp / 120mg Test Enan.....or 200mg Test Cyp / 100mg Test Enan ....... ?
I ask because it does make a difference to me. Test Enan and Test Cyp have very different half lives. Even though they differ by only one carbon (Enan 7 C's, Cyp 8 C's), if you look at the molecular structure of the 2 esters, they are totally, completely different which accounts for their very different half lives (Enan = approx 4-5 days / Cyp = approx 8 days). Enan is a 7 Carbon straight chain, Cyp is a 3 Carbon straight chain Propionate ester with a 5 carbon ring attached to the terminal Propionate Carbon. Enanthate and Cypionate are very very different esters even though they differ by only 1 Carbon. Thus they have very different half lives.
I have always preferred Enathate and have used Enan in 95% of my cycles due to you getting a little more Test per mg with Enan......
Test Enan MW = 400.603 g/mol
Test Cyp MW = 412.614 g/mol
Pure unesterified Testosterone MW = 288.42 g/mol
Test Enan = 288.42 / 400.603 = 72.0 % Pure Unesterified test
Test Cyp = 288.42 / 412.614 = 69.9 % Pure Unesterified test
Although I prefer Enan over Cyp, my last 2 sources for Test Enan 300 were actually quite painful, as I believe the Test Enan raws they used had sat around for awhile and become oxidized, leading to the Test Enan PIP. So I completely empathize with you adding cyp to the test Enan trying to cut down on PIP for your customers. Have to keep your customers happy !!
I look forward to placing a nice-sized order with you in the next week or so Stanford. Thank you in advance for answering my question !!
I ask because it does make a difference to me. Test Enan and Test Cyp have very different half lives. Even though they differ by only one carbon (Enan 7 C's, Cyp 8 C's), if you look at the molecular structure of the 2 esters, they are totally, completely different which accounts for their very different half lives (Enan = approx 4-5 days / Cyp = approx 8 days). Enan is a 7 Carbon straight chain, Cyp is a 3 Carbon straight chain Propionate ester with a 5 carbon ring attached to the terminal Propionate Carbon. Enanthate and Cypionate are very very different esters even though they differ by only 1 Carbon. Thus they have very different half lives.
I have always preferred Enathate and have used Enan in 95% of my cycles due to you getting a little more Test per mg with Enan......
Test Enan MW = 400.603 g/mol
Test Cyp MW = 412.614 g/mol
Pure unesterified Testosterone MW = 288.42 g/mol
Test Enan = 288.42 / 400.603 = 72.0 % Pure Unesterified test
Test Cyp = 288.42 / 412.614 = 69.9 % Pure Unesterified test
Although I prefer Enan over Cyp, my last 2 sources for Test Enan 300 were actually quite painful, as I believe the Test Enan raws they used had sat around for awhile and become oxidized, leading to the Test Enan PIP. So I completely empathize with you adding cyp to the test Enan trying to cut down on PIP for your customers. Have to keep your customers happy !!
I look forward to placing a nice-sized order with you in the next week or so Stanford. Thank you in advance for answering my question !!
Stanford, when you say that your Test Enan 300 is "mostly Test Cyp", can you go into a little more detail? Like is it approximately 180mg Test Cyp / 120mg Test Enan.....or 200mg Test Cyp / 100mg Test Enan ....... ?
I ask because it does make a difference to me. Test Enan and Test Cyp have very different half lives. Even though they differ by only one carbon (Enan 7 C's, Cyp 8 C's), if you look at the molecular structure of the 2 esters, they are totally, completely different which accounts for their very different half lives (Enan = approx 4-5 days / Cyp = approx 8 days). Enan is a 7 Carbon straight chain, Cyp is a 3 Carbon straight chain Propionate ester with a 5 carbon ring attached to the terminal Propionate Carbon. Enanthate and Cypionate are very very different esters even though they differ by only 1 Carbon. Thus they have very different half lives.
I have always preferred Enathate and have used Enan in 95% of my cycles due to you getting a little more Test per mg with Enan......
Test Enan MW = 400.603 g/mol
Test Cyp MW = 412.614 g/mol
Pure unesterified Testosterone MW = 288.42 g/mol
Test Enan = 288.42 / 400.603 = 72.0 % Pure Unesterified test
Test Cyp = 288.42 / 412.614 = 69.9 % Pure Unesterified test
Although I prefer Enan over Cyp, my last 2 sources for Test Enan 300 were actually quite painful, as I believe the Test Enan raws they used had sat around for awhile and become oxidized, leading to the Test Enan PIP. So I completely empathize with you adding cyp to the test Enan trying to cut down on PIP for your customers. Have to keep your customers happy !!
I look forward to placing a nice-sized order with you in the next week or so Stanford. Thank you in advance for answering my question !!
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