anotherlifter
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Hi,
I got blood work done two weeks ago and my total test came at a sorry 124 (I'm in my mid-20s). My last blood work before this one was two years ago following PCT after a similar cycle (Ostarine and Epistane, for 6 weeks, at 25mg and 20/20/20/30/40/40mg respectively, I did not have a chance to use a test base back then from a trustworthy source). I clicked at >900 for TT, E2 on point, LH slightly above range. I used Tamoxifen exclusively for the PCT, along with ZMA and other supplements (Triazole and Lean Extreme).
However this time I don't seem to have recovered as well, after a similar 6 week cycle of Epistane and two weeks of Ostarine before (same dosages), and running a Clomid and Nolvadex PCT (200mg first day, then 100 for a few days, then tapered down to 50mg and now 25mg, 40/40/20/20 for the Nolvadex). The only previous cycle before the one two years ago and this one was a Dienolone cycle, for which I also ran a Clomid and Nolvadex PCT. I don't have blood work for that one, but I did not experience some of the psychological symptoms I have now (mostly lack of drive and general grogginess).
The ancillaries were sourced from a friend (who's not using anymore and provided them for free essentially) with access to legitimate pharma RX and they are the real deal (not UGL).
I visited an endo and that was a forgettable experience. The doc reacted very obviously with personal prejudice against me as a AAS user, being judgmental and dropping questions about sources and such, until I finally told him (since it is a private clinic and I was paying out of my pocket) to stick to medical practice and quit asking questions irrelevant to treatment (he doesnt need to know specifics of . Disregarding of the fact that this guy was essentially saying every now and then that "he didnt have to treat me" and that very obviously having a negative view on PED users, his consult amounted up to telling me to 'wait it out' for two months before running another batch of tests worth a few hundred... plus consult fees.
I understand the basis of waiting until the SERMs clear out but not if quality of life is at stake and the wait can be reduced to 30 days, which is a good compromise to let the Clomid and Nolva clear out.
He refused to read into any of the studies I brought him on Clomiphene to prescribe me Clomid, and he also claimed I should not be using anything due to "elevated liver enzymes" (I can post values later, but they are only slightly elevated and not a source of immediate worry, I could run another two weeks safely of SERMs and keep take TUDCA/UDCA for liver support). No symptoms of real liver stress so far.
Right now I'm running the rest of the Clomid I have for a full week at 25mg and Nolvadex at 20mg. Supplementing with D vitamin, a decent multi, Zinc and Magnesium at night and generous amounts of fish oil and upping the fats in m diet (which was a problem: I was calorie deprived during PCT and the fat amounts way under the macros I have respected before).
If anyone has suggestions, feel welcome.
I got blood work done two weeks ago and my total test came at a sorry 124 (I'm in my mid-20s). My last blood work before this one was two years ago following PCT after a similar cycle (Ostarine and Epistane, for 6 weeks, at 25mg and 20/20/20/30/40/40mg respectively, I did not have a chance to use a test base back then from a trustworthy source). I clicked at >900 for TT, E2 on point, LH slightly above range. I used Tamoxifen exclusively for the PCT, along with ZMA and other supplements (Triazole and Lean Extreme).
However this time I don't seem to have recovered as well, after a similar 6 week cycle of Epistane and two weeks of Ostarine before (same dosages), and running a Clomid and Nolvadex PCT (200mg first day, then 100 for a few days, then tapered down to 50mg and now 25mg, 40/40/20/20 for the Nolvadex). The only previous cycle before the one two years ago and this one was a Dienolone cycle, for which I also ran a Clomid and Nolvadex PCT. I don't have blood work for that one, but I did not experience some of the psychological symptoms I have now (mostly lack of drive and general grogginess).
The ancillaries were sourced from a friend (who's not using anymore and provided them for free essentially) with access to legitimate pharma RX and they are the real deal (not UGL).
I visited an endo and that was a forgettable experience. The doc reacted very obviously with personal prejudice against me as a AAS user, being judgmental and dropping questions about sources and such, until I finally told him (since it is a private clinic and I was paying out of my pocket) to stick to medical practice and quit asking questions irrelevant to treatment (he doesnt need to know specifics of . Disregarding of the fact that this guy was essentially saying every now and then that "he didnt have to treat me" and that very obviously having a negative view on PED users, his consult amounted up to telling me to 'wait it out' for two months before running another batch of tests worth a few hundred... plus consult fees.
I understand the basis of waiting until the SERMs clear out but not if quality of life is at stake and the wait can be reduced to 30 days, which is a good compromise to let the Clomid and Nolva clear out.
He refused to read into any of the studies I brought him on Clomiphene to prescribe me Clomid, and he also claimed I should not be using anything due to "elevated liver enzymes" (I can post values later, but they are only slightly elevated and not a source of immediate worry, I could run another two weeks safely of SERMs and keep take TUDCA/UDCA for liver support). No symptoms of real liver stress so far.
Right now I'm running the rest of the Clomid I have for a full week at 25mg and Nolvadex at 20mg. Supplementing with D vitamin, a decent multi, Zinc and Magnesium at night and generous amounts of fish oil and upping the fats in m diet (which was a problem: I was calorie deprived during PCT and the fat amounts way under the macros I have respected before).
If anyone has suggestions, feel welcome.
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