Ozzy619
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Lol lope by itself cannot cross the blood brain barrier, the trick is you have to drink grapefruit juice and tagamet with it. I personally call bullshit. If youre wding that aint gunna do shit.
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Lol lope by itself cannot cross the blood brain barrier, the trick is you have to drink grapefruit juice and tagamet with it. I personally call bullshit. If youre wding that aint gunna do shit.
Agreed. That won't do a damn thing. Only way to stop is to stop. Drop your doses and stop.
I'll tell ya what doesn't mix, xanax bars and bench pressing, pretty sure I dozed off on the bench a few years back
jaysonallen1976
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I was in a serious car accident in 2002. Got hooked on pain meds... I've been on suboxone over 7 years.. Yes it definitely does lower your test levels...3 years ago I had mine checked by my Dr. Due to low energy etc. My numbers were so low he asked me how I could get out of bed. Gave me a shot of enanthate right away. Within a week I was feeling much better... Obviously he took other test to verify the cause of low t was suboxne... Now that I am on gear done a few shows . and can say in the best shape of my life at 38. I'm trying to be done with suboxone... Yes it did save my life. My question is is it also a life sentence.... Or can u get off of these things?
jaysonallen1976
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I've been reading this stuff about kratum ? Can anyone give me more information?
ThE SiCkNeSs
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It is only a life sentence if you want it to be. I'll tell you this, the longer your on it the longer it takes to get off it. Look at it like this, if you take test all the time without stopping or doing pct your body probably will create little to no test naturally. Some people have and it can bounce back, and for some it never will. Same with dope, subs, methadone, and whatever opiates you take. Your supplementing your bodies natural opiates with synthetic ones, so the longer your doing it the longer it takes to bounce back if it ever does. Sure the withdrawals will go away eventually, they always do, but you could be depressed and lazy for the rest of your life. The sooner you quit, the better of you'll be.
ThE SiCkNeSs
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Yes, stay away, just another opiate like subs, if your gonna try it then use it to detox from the subs then stop. Use discipline.
jaysonallen1976
New Member
I hear that... Funny I'm sure that others say same thing . its not the right time etc...its time... Thsnx for input.
Ozzy619
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Getting off subs depends on your will power. Go back a page or two and you can read how I got off.
element00
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376871615000733
This systematic review looks at testosterone suppression in opioid users. I've only had a quick scan and note it says bupe may not impact test levels as much as methadone, but further investigation is required
This systematic review looks at testosterone suppression in opioid users. I've only had a quick scan and note it says bupe may not impact test levels as much as methadone, but further investigation is required
Ozzy619
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When I was on opiates I lost all sex drive, couldnt even get hard. I know some women have no desire either. Makes me wonder if the main culprit good be dopamine.
element00
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It's interesting man, I see dopamine gets plenty of attention in relation to use of stimulants, but not so much with opioids. Seems though it plays a key role in the reward pathway, and needs to be considered when trying to get off heroin, Oxys etc
Sworder
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What kind of a jag? The XJL is soooo sick...
Throwback
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Same with me...no interest at all
.wife thought it was her fault...really bad bad time...I'd love 3 mins in a room with Every pain clinic doc in US...bring a truck with a bunch of body bags..cuz that's what these guys deserve. They killed thousands and ruined millions of lives.
I quit with sub's but only used em for a month...tapered off to less than a quarter strip/day. Then delt with being lethargic and slo motion for a few weeks....I did start using 250 mg/week test e about a week after the sub's...3 weeks later felt like superman....wife now looks like this
Throwback
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Throwback
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There u go...these docs are in it for the money and to keep em coming back...I was at 5 Roxi 30s and two 20 opanas a day and got off everything in a month with sub's...first day did 12mg..11/2 strips next day 1/2 morning 1/2 after lunch....fucking docs and clinics...one in Knoxville has had my buddies daughter on methadone for 7 fucking years...all about the $.
...all about the $.
Ozzy619
Well-known Member
There u go...these docs are in it for the money and to keep em coming back...I was at 5 Roxi 30s and two 20 opanas a day and got off everything in a month with sub's...first day did 12mg..11/2 strips next day 1/2 morning 1/2 after lunch....fucking docs and clinics...one in Knoxville has had my buddies daughter on methadone for 7 fucking years
Ive heard of the month taper with subs but never in detail. Good thing it was only for a month, subs were harder to kick that the more traditional opiates.
viking23
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Anybody else use test to speed up recovery? I saw some rehabs do offer trt while in recovery but also saw some data that argued it would make WD worse.
Throwback
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Well the month taper off was not by design...at the time sub's were very hard to find on the street here. Still had the old stop sign shape pill....I ran into a guy with strips and got 7 or 8 from him...he was prescribed 3 per day! Did 1 1/2 day 1, 1 day 2, 1/2 morn and 1/2aft day3, day 4 and 5 same as 3....got 4 more from my guy then we went to myrtle beach from Sunday (had 1/2 in morning) to Friday and I forgot the sub's at home!...best time we had in years...kept waiting for w/d to hit...none...till friday ....thankfully we got back friday night late. I took about a quarter of one cuz didn't want to be up all night. So I had like 4 3/4 strips left. Got up still felt pretty good so had a 1/4. Found out my connect was gone for a while...jail. So just kept it at a 1/4 in morning till I got to the last strip and cut it into 1/8s and that was it.
I wish I would have started test e inj about 2 weeks before I ran out instead of a week after...I think it really would have helped.....
