SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

Wow, y’all really are some of the stupidest fuckers ever. Guy is a liar and gets hacked, customers are getting visits from the postal inspector and y’all can’t wait to buy more shit from him?

No telling how much info and names/ addresses he lost to whomever hacked his account. Y’all praise him for how detailed and eloquent his responses are but ignore all the inconsistencies. Like how is his iPhone getting hacked when he specifically laid out that he uses computers only for all of this. He made sure to point out that he has three separate computers to run the business but left out the fact that he uses a mobile device that can’t even run a TOR client? So he just happens to leave out/ add details as they become convenient (read essential) to keep the narrative moving.

I said it from the beginning, something is off about this guy and he comes off as someone who can read a book but no idea how to run a drug business.
 
I believe you will have an incredibly tough go of it here Symbiotics.
You're probably going to be questioned, and requestioned again and again. I hope you're understanding as to why. For some members, no answers will be good enough but please try regardless.
You'll probably also be cross examined over and over by members ranging from those both highly experienced in handling these matters to flat earth conspiracy theorists.

"Even if" you could retrace every step taken by the outside actor/s in this scenario, which no one could, many may not be satisfied.

I hope you are ready for what's to come here. Some likely will...understandably...hold your balls to a blow torch.
I hope you have very thick skin and a lot of patience to weather the storm because this thread is either going to disappear soon or become a mile longer than it is in a few days.

Either way, you must really, really, really have everything (if you're legitimate) or nothing (if the account is now under LE ops) to lose by resurfacing on this account.

If you're legitimate, I truly wish you the best through whatever happens next. I personally have no dog in the fight but I would like to see a good man find his way to the other side of a mess like this.

Regardless, I'm inquisitive.
I know I said that I would make a new account before posting here again; but that was not necessary. I maintained control of this account; but was apprehensive when my 2FA would not work initially. It is now functional.
How do we know your meso account itself hasn't been comprised? How do you know the hacker did not embed a backdoor into your account (other software, etc...) at some point while all this was going? Is there any reassurance that they won't collect your and/or your customers data for later use?
We don't know how they got in. How do we know they're out?

Just a side note: My 2FA began acting strangely a couple weeks before you were compromised.
Did you discover the source of why your 2FA wasn't working initially?
Why do you trust this account now?
The hackers hijacked at least 2 other meso profiles and were using them to converse with members here about their exploits (personally I think much of it was misinformation). Took a second to ban the accounts after the hackers took them over.
One gave an explanation of how they hijack one of the accounts. These seemed like fairly sophisticated attacks. Are you concerned that they could override your control of this account at a later date?
What assurance do we have that this account was not taken over and is being used by the hijackers now?

I know this is true because I ordered from another popular source here the day after the alleged label problems.

Which alleged label problems? Do you mean after your operation appeared to be comprised, why would you order from another source if LE could possibly be investigated you? You deconstructed your lab and cleaned house after a meso member received a visit from the PI. Are you referring to something else regarding the alleged label problem?
Anyone who is suspicious of email compromise: Look in your draft folder for messages that you did not create. The message body will contain a large block of codes similar to this:\u003b\u006f\ etc.
I believe everyone destroyed their email accounts so I don't know if any evidence still exists there.

My email is secure with the two password option and 2FA; and I purged all content from all folders.

Purged what content from the folders? Emails, "footprint code", other?

I can only assume that I erroneously clicked a malicious link at some point, likely long before I became active on MESO.
Why would the hackers that hit all the sources target you before coming to meso?
Also, why would you use an old Protonmail account rather than a fresh one to start your meso account?
However, I am still unsure if my iPhone was utilized for the attack. I just do not know the answer to how this occurred.
If you only used individually dedicated computers for each aspect of your shop here on meso, how the hell would your iPhone have anything to do with the attack?
The computers were each dedicated to a specific function. What did you use your iPhone for?

Thanks
 
Anyone who buys from this guy gets what they deserve. He has been compromised and has proven himself to be a liar. None of you have any idea who you will be emailing. It could just be LE you’re sending your orders to. Good luck - this guy is a threat to Meso and goes against harm reduction.


I'll be the first to admit I rushed into buying from him when this all began because I was a dumbass and new to the game. By me sending out for testing is by no means saying I'm going to buy again, cause I will not. I'm merely wanting to make sure what I and some others did buy isn't going to hurt anyone. I chocked this one up as a lesson to not be so hasty, as I have not gotten any visits to my door yet, and hope others do the same.
 
I'll be the first to admit I rushed into buying from him when this all began because I was a dumbass and new to the game. By me sending out for testing is by no means saying I'm going to buy again, cause I will not. I'm merely wanting to make sure what I and some others did buy isn't going to hurt anyone. I chocked this one up as a lesson to not be so hasty, as I have not gotten any visits to my door yet, and hope others do the same.
I like how you deleted your other post all but giving him a g2g
 
^^^^^^This right here^^^^^^

SymBiotics could be solid but the dudes that got visits could be full of shit in regards to what really happened during their visit. Lol. Haha.

Could be, I don't know dude who made the claim so I take it all under consideration. Just not a risk I'd take.
 
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I believe you will have an incredibly tough go of it here Symbiotics.
You're probably going to be questioned, and requestioned again and again. I hope you're understanding as to why. For some members, no answers will be good enough but please try regardless.
You'll probably also be cross examined over and over by members ranging from those both highly experienced in handling these matters to flat earth conspiracy theorists.

"Even if" you could retrace every step taken by the outside actor/s in this scenario, which no one could, many may not be satisfied.

I hope you are ready for what's to come here. Some likely will...understandably...hold your balls to a blow torch.
I hope you have very thick skin and a lot of patience to weather the storm because this thread is either going to disappear soon or become a mile longer than it is in a few days.

Either way, you must really, really, really have everything (if you're legitimate) or nothing (if the account is now under LE ops) to lose by resurfacing on this account.

If you're legitimate, I truly wish you the best through whatever happens next. I personally have no dog in the fight but I would like to see a good man find his way to the other side of a mess like this.

Regardless, I'm inquisitive.

How do we know your meso account itself hasn't been comprised? How do you know the hacker did not embed a backdoor into your account (other software, etc...) at some point while all this was going? Is there any reassurance that they won't collect your and/or your customers data for later use?
We don't know how they got in. How do we know they're out?
We do not know. I am uncertain how many members here have the background to accurately answer this question; but I know I do not. I would be inclined to think that the site administrator would have a way to know if any accounts remained compromised. In the end, I wouldn't mind making a new account. In my mind, posting from this one seemed to be the best way to confirm that it was actually me posting.

Just a side note: My 2FA began acting strangely a couple weeks before you were compromised.
Did you discover the source of why your 2FA wasn't working initially?
Why do you trust this account now?
The hackers hijacked at least 2 other meso profiles and were using them to converse with members here about their exploits (personally I think much of it was misinformation). Took a second to ban the accounts after the hackers took them over.
One gave an explanation of how they hijack one of the accounts. These seemed like fairly sophisticated attacks. Are you concerned that they could override your control of this account at a later date?
What assurance do we have that this account was not taken over and is being used by the hijackers now?
Again, there is no assurance I could give. In truth, anyone who states they can offer assurance in such matters is either not being truthful; or suffering from delusions of grandeur. Yes, of course I am concerned about future attacks. All I know to do is to learn everything I can and employ those tactics as I learn them.



Which alleged label problems? Do you mean after your operation appeared to be comprised, why would you order from another source if LE could possibly be investigated you? You deconstructed your lab and cleaned house after a meso member received a visit from the PI. Are you referring to something else regarding the alleged label problem?
I was referring to the post made by the customer stating that my shipping label was the reason for the problem. This, I know, is incorrect.
The order from the other vendor was made for me; not by me. As in, not shipped to me; but given to me in person.


I believe everyone destroyed their email accounts so I don't know if any evidence still exists there.



Purged what content from the folders? Emails, "footprint code", other?
Purged everything from every folder.

Why would the hackers that hit all the sources target you before coming to meso?
Also, why would you use an old Protonmail account rather than a fresh one to start your meso account?
If I am not mistaken, the hacker said in one conversation that he was doing this for quite some time. My email was created the same week that I joined MESO: not an old email address.
If you only used individually dedicated computers for each aspect of your shop here on meso, how the hell would your iPhone have anything to do with the attack?
The computers were each dedicated to a specific function. What did you use your iPhone for?

This is copied from my introduction post: "I have 3 identical laptops that I use for dedicated portions of this business: one for email and MESO; one for ordering supplies; one for shipping labels and cryptocurrency transfers." This statement was to emphasize that I do not browse, email, print labels, and transact bitcoin from the same machine. I did check email from my phone; and I never said that I did not. I stated that I do not like to log in (to MESO) from my mobile device.

Thanks

I'm not sure if the replies to each question are in a format that is easy to read. I do appreciate your tactful inquiries.
 
^^^^^^This right here^^^^^^

SymBiotics could be solid but the dudes that got visits could be full of shit in regards to what really happened during their visit. Lol. Haha.
Thank you for the point of view. Were there multiple customers with the same problem? I was only aware of the one.
 
Thank you for the point of view. Were there multiple customers with the same problem? I was only aware of the one.
I thought I read there were two visits to two different people. My apologies if I am mistaken.

My whole take on the matter is if I had just gone through my SECOND visit by any authority in regards to illegal activity my ass is going off the grid. Not post the entire timeline for all to see. o_O
 
In the end I wouldn’t mind making a new account. In my mind, posting from this one seemed to be the best way to actually confirm it was me posting.

—My accounts have been hacked/compromised. The best way to ensure people believe it’s me is to post from that compromised account—

the thinking of your drug dealer guys is posting from a compromised account, let that sink in.
 
Wow, y’all really are some of the stupidest fuckers ever. Guy is a liar and gets hacked, customers are getting visits from the postal inspector and y’all can’t wait to buy more shit from him?

No telling how much info and names/ addresses he lost to whomever hacked his account. Y’all praise him for how detailed and eloquent his responses are but ignore all the inconsistencies. Like how is his iPhone getting hacked when he specifically laid out that he uses computers only for all of this. He made sure to point out that he has three separate computers to run the business but left out the fact that he uses a mobile device that can’t even run a TOR client? So he just happens to leave out/ add details as they become convenient (read essential) to keep the narrative moving.

I said it from the beginning, something is off about this guy and he comes off as someone who can read a book but no idea how to run a drug business.
I have not lied about anything in this thread other than my obfuscated identity. If there is evidence of any untruth on my behalf, please post it.
Customer(s) got visits? Could you please direct me to more than one individual who had a problem?
I replied about my computer use to the other gentleman; but i will repeat it here. This is pasted from my introduction: "I have 3 identical laptops that I use for dedicated portions of this business: one for email and MESO; one for ordering supplies; one for shipping labels and cryptocurrency transfers." This was to emphasize that I do not use a single machine for browsing, email, labels, and cryptocurency transaction. Never once did I state that I do not check email from my phone; which is, in fact, running the onion browser right now. I know that some of the other sources here use their mobile devices for email because I received my correspondence from them with the "sent from protonmail mobile" in the reply.
 
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