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The biggest thing here is his security! He’s been compromised once already. To consider ordering here is crazy to me! You can have all the HPLC testing and bloodwork but what good will that do anyone when LE comes knocking!? o_O

If security is way down on your list of priorities then I guess it doesn’t matter but for me my security is number 1!

Be smart and stay safe guys!
 
This dude would cooperate within 5 minutes of getting arrested probably wouldn’t even make a deal just start signing statements before his lawyer comes
 
No disrespect to anyone...
But i can tell a lot of ppl here have never dealt with the feds or really knows anyone that's been caught trafficking.
If he's a source the only info worth giving up are his suppliers or large customers. And by large I mean those with the ability to resell.
They don't want customers. They don't ever want small fish.
But a hacker is a whole different story...and a hacker who extorts money from sources is bad news..

My own personal experience has taught me.
If any one ever comes and asks you about packages coming to your house. YOUR address is flagged.
I have been around dnm's enough to know. They want the sources and their suppliers.

Now unless you're buying large amounts of raws or having other substances outside of AAS sent to your house this can obviously also put you at risk.
Now i don't know this source. Just what I read. And what others have posted. I just have a feeling that with the level he was on when things went South if he was caught he wouldn't get a chance to make a deal or get out...
Now having said all that I think it's a FAIR request to ask for him to redo the intro. I don't see any reason why he would refuse to do so since he spent so much time effort and money building a whole new lab with a whole new set up. And on top of that he was pretty well established here. I would hope he wouldn't want to lose all that business..
 
Lb187 said:
No disrespect to anyone...
But i can tell a lot of ppl here have never dealt with the feds or really knows anyone that's been caught trafficking.
If he's a source the only info worth giving up are his suppliers or large customers. And by large I mean those with the ability to resell.
They don't want customers. They don't ever want small fish.
But a hacker is a whole different story...and a hacker who extorts money from sources is bad news..

My own personal experience has taught me.
If any one ever comes and asks you about packages coming to your house. YOUR address is flagged.
I have been around dnm's enough to know. They want the sources and their suppliers.

Now unless you're buying large amounts of raws or having other substances outside of AAS sent to your house this can obviously also put you at risk.
Now i don't know this source. Just what I read. And what others have posted. I just have a feeling that with the level he was on when things went South if he was caught he wouldn't get a chance to make a deal or get out...
Now having said all that I think it's a FAIR request to ask for him to redo the intro. I don't see any reason why he would refuse to do so since he spent so much time effort and money building a whole new lab with a whole new set up. And on top of that he was pretty well established here. I would hope he wouldn't want to lose all that business..
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Underground labs prices are so cheap they sell to resellers not just for personal use. busting a lab means they can cut a deal to bring down many resellers you have guys pushing thousands of dollars worth of gear as a reseller. That may be worth it for the feds ‍♂️
 
Lb187 said:
No disrespect to anyone...
But i can tell a lot of ppl here have never dealt with the feds or really knows anyone that's been caught trafficking.
If he's a source the only info worth giving up are his suppliers or large customers. And by large I mean those with the ability to resell.
They don't want customers. They don't ever want small fish.
But a hacker is a whole different story...and a hacker who extorts money from sources is bad news..

My own personal experience has taught me.
If any one ever comes and asks you about packages coming to your house. YOUR address is flagged.
I have been around dnm's enough to know. They want the sources and their suppliers.

Now unless you're buying large amounts of raws or having other substances outside of AAS sent to your house this can obviously also put you at risk.
Now i don't know this source. Just what I read. And what others have posted. I just have a feeling that with the level he was on when things went South if he was caught he wouldn't get a chance to make a deal or get out...
Now having said all that I think it's a FAIR request to ask for him to redo the intro. I don't see any reason why he would refuse to do so since he spent so much time effort and money building a whole new lab with a whole new set up. And on top of that he was pretty well established here. I would hope he wouldn't want to lose all that business..
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I totally agree with you bro! The thing is that I could care less about this source or any other.
What I do care about is our members here though. I’m just sayin why put yourself at more risk by ordering here?
I wasn’t talking about the feds knocking on anyone’s door. I was talking about local LE.
While ordering from anywhere is a risk I’d rather calculate my risk vs reward when it comes to this particular source and the risk (for me) is too much.
Just my thoughts.... :)
 
bolder said:
I totally agree with you bro! The thing is that I could care less about this source or any other.
What I do care about is our members here though. I’m just sayin why put yourself at more risk by ordering here?
I wasn’t talking about the feds knocking on anyone’s door. I was talking about local LE.
While ordering from anywhere is a risk I’d rather calculate my risk vs reward when it comes to this particular source and the risk (for me) is too much.
Just my thoughts.... :)
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I definitely agree on this 1000%..
when ever dealing with something of this nature you always have to analyze risk to reward.
Sometimes the internet makes things TOO easy and people get lazy. But still it's our safety 1st.... always.
 
Skorecese said:
Underground labs prices are so cheap they sell to resellers not just for personal use. busting a lab means they can cut a deal to bring down many resellers you have guys pushing thousands of dollars worth of gear as a reseller. That may be worth it for the feds ‍♂️
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The real travesty here is the missing skeleton avi
 
Yes,
Lb187 said:
No disrespect to anyone...
But i can tell a lot of ppl here have never dealt with the feds or really knows anyone that's been caught trafficking.
If he's a source the only info worth giving up are his suppliers or large customers. And by large I mean those with the ability to resell.
They don't want customers. They don't ever want small fish.
But a hacker is a whole different story...and a hacker who extorts money from sources is bad news..

My own personal experience has taught me.
If any one ever comes and asks you about packages coming to your house. YOUR address is flagged.
I have been around dnm's enough to know. They want the sources and their suppliers.

Now unless you're buying large amounts of raws or having other substances outside of AAS sent to your house this can obviously also put you at risk.
Now i don't know this source. Just what I read. And what others have posted. I just have a feeling that with the level he was on when things went South if he was caught he wouldn't get a chance to make a deal or get out...
Now having said all that I think it's a FAIR request to ask for him to redo the intro. I don't see any reason why he would refuse to do so since he spent so much time effort and money building a whole new lab with a whole new set up. And on top of that he was pretty well established here. I would hope he wouldn't want to lose all that business..
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No disrespect taken.

I have watched the feds work though. I didn't get picked to be a part their 5 year operation but an acquaintance of mine who was both stupid and unlucky ended up drawing the short straw...he was street level but many other informants in the operation were not. The DEA also had at least one confirmed agent planted at some point in the investigation.
They secured one informant...then another...then another...then another. They lock some up...they let some go. They wait...they watch...they do not nab everyone they see manufacturing, trafficking, or supplying as soon as they see it...I was told by another former acquaintance of mine who got out of the pen awhile ago that they can wait seven years to press all the charges they sit on...they don't operate like local LE.
Local investigators bust motherfuckers quick sticks. Feds stay silent...play the long game...collect information...collect people as assets...build mile long charges with iron clad cases...and pick and choose if they move, when they move, who they move on, and who they don't.
 
desertwarrior said:
Glad to see you back @SymBiotics . However we are gonna need more than your word here amigo. This forum is all about harm reduction. If you don’t want to be ran off the board, I’d highly suggest you start getting creative.

Tattoos near the scar? We’d still like to take a peek. Cover them with some of the wife’s concealer. It’s the least she can do since we never got any tit pics :D:p

Walls too recognizable? Cover what you must with a sheet or some construction paper. Prove to us that what you are saying is true. Coming in with the best lab I’ve ever seen I find it strange and almost completely unbelievable that you would further upgrade into a place that would then render you unable to photograph it.

There are quite a few other variables that we would like to hear about as well.

What is the situation regarding your phone being hacked?

How has this been handled?

What steps have you taken to insure the information leaked won’t come back to harm you?

Would you be willing to send some products to a intermediary to then have tested. Someone the board knows and trusts. I’m sure many are put off by folks claiming infection and improper dosage. This could potentially clear some of that up.

These are just some ideas to help gain some trust back with the community bro and I’m a fucking dumbass. I’m sure you will come up with something with that big brain.
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I am still unsure if the iPhone was hacked or not. There is no way to tell; so I discarded it and got a new device.
I will think on these other items you have mentioned here.

I've looked back a bit here and it seems as if I am one of, if not the only, source to post actual pictures of any lab. Now people are irritated that I haven't posted pictures of 2 labs??
It will be impossible to meet every demand here because the demanding is self potentiating and fueled by compliance to the prior request.
I will figure something out; but it will require a bit of work. I won't be working on it today.
 
SymBiotics said:
I am still unsure if the iPhone was hacked or not. There is no way to tell; so I discarded it and got a new device.
I will think on these other items you have mentioned here.

I've looked back a bit here and it seems as if I am one of, if not the only, source to post actual pictures of any lab. Now people are irritated that I haven't posted pictures of 2 labs??
It will be impossible to meet every demand here because the demanding is self potentiating and fueled by compliance to the prior request.
I will figure something out; but it will require a bit of work. I won't be working on it today.
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Honestly man you go above and beyond any other lab here. You will get a lot of customers because of this. Many who just post and leave still get customers. But They are much slower. You have been more then accomidating. I dont even bother readin what many people have to say because its too long. I would buy from you if I didnt brew. Or if you get HGH in the future.
 
You wil never be able to pleaase everybody. Half the people here have hidden agendas anyway. So even though you think you are answering a member, you are actually doing something for some hidden agneda they have. Like showing them the proper way how to do thing for there own labs.
 
OldSmice said:
The Meso 90IQ braintrust - “Hey @SymBiotics harm reduction is #1 priority!!! Post more personal info so we can rest assured you’re not a DEA kingpin looking to nail 100s of meatheads for buying a vial if test!!!!!!111one!”

Buy or don’t that’s up to you but there is already too much potentially identifiable info in this thread imo.
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I'm not going to identify myself. I will do my best to satisfy the most; and accept the results.
 
Successful TD on a small order. Thanks Sym! Everything came as intended and was well packaged. T/A was about 4 days. Take this next part however you will. I ordered some test cyp and some test 400. I've done my homework on T400 and I'm aware that users tend to report PIP issues. Sym was kind enough to issue a warning about the possibility of PIP on T400 and gave me the opportunity to change it before my transaction was completed. I can tell you from experience the local gym bro or co-worker won't always do the same. I had a nice lad from work try to hook me up with some Sust and Tren for my first cycle ever and at an advanced users dose to boot. I do my homework though, and didn't go through him. Some people just try to make a sale. The point I'm getting at is, do you think someone who has been flipped is really going to take the time to warn somebody about some PIP issues or make the sale? All of that being said, I would still exercise caution, and remember my experience and interactions are my own.
 
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