SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

I clearly remember buying diesel for $1.12/gallon the day before Katrina made landfall.
The next week it was almost $6; and oddly enough that diesel had been sitting in those tanks for over a week and miraculously became more expensive. Supply and demand is one thing----it fuels our economic capitalism; and that's just fine. Actions like the post-katrina fuel price gouging are opportunism at it's worst; and it makes me pretty mad.
I just can't get on board with that type of business because I was on the receiving end of it.
I completely understand that steroids aren't a life necessity like fuel; but the principle is still the same. Charging 3-4x the pre-ban price is just......opportunistic.

I'm sure my prices will go up eventually; but it won't be tomorrow.
Wow..almost $6 for diesel, that's crazy. I lived in an area that was impacted by Katrina and it only went up to around $4 a gallon down here.. I use my truck for work and I remember going through around 6-7 hundred a week in fuel..Gouging bastards... It will be interesting to see how this draws situation plays out. I have a feeling it may not be quite as bad as some of the hype and fear monguring
 
Wow..almost $6 for diesel, that's crazy. I lived in an area that was impacted by Katrina and it only went up to around $4 a gallon down here.. I use my truck for work and I remember going through around 6-7 hundred a week in fuel..Gouging bastards... It will be interesting to see how this draws situation plays out. I have a feeling it may not be quite as bad as some of the hype and fear monguring

Yeah it was mainly in the little towns I had to go through to get to civilization that gouged the worst. Although I was sorely disappointed in Loves and TA because they were higher than some of the small stations; but I guess you pay for that I-10 roadside convenience.
Like @BigBaldBeardGuy said though; everything went up as a result of fuel prices.
Makes me wonder if solvents, vials, and oil will go up too just because......well just because they can
 
Dont shame Texas with your laziness :eek::rolleyes:
How dare you reply with part of what I asked for and make me look dumb :mad: I was mostly referring to testing though, just threw TDs in there. I feel like we’re spending way more time speculating than making sure our sources are up to snuff. This is not the only thread where this is happening either
 
Yeah it was mainly in the little towns I had to go through to get to civilization that gouged the worst. Although I was sorely disappointed in Loves and TA because they were higher than some of the small stations; but I guess you pay for that I-10 roadside convenience.
Like @BigBaldBeardGuy said though; everything went up as a result of fuel prices.
Makes me wonder if solvents, vials, and oil will go up too just because......well just because they can
Yeah, good point..I never really thought of that. There could possibly be a domino effect from raws increase...And I still use my truck for work and pretty much all truckstop along interstates charge more than other places...par for the course I guess
 
How dare you reply with part of what I asked for and make me look dumb :mad: I was mostly referring to testing though, just threw TDs in there. I feel like we’re spending way more time speculating than making sure our sources are up to snuff. This is not the only thread where this is happening either
Turning over a new Meso leaf in 2020 so I'm doing all the shit talking I can. Lol.
 
Yeah it was mainly in the little towns I had to go through to get to civilization that gouged the worst. Although I was sorely disappointed in Loves and TA because they were higher than some of the small stations; but I guess you pay for that I-10 roadside convenience.
Like @BigBaldBeardGuy said though; everything went up as a result of fuel prices.
Makes me wonder if solvents, vials, and oil will go up too just because......well just because they can
I live in a town on the water directly hit by Katrina. There is a store with original gas prices up that never reopened. Pathetic how much gas went up!
 
Funny thing about all this shit is that if you’re out of test and need it and can get it for $60 a vial or so, more than likely you’re gonna buy it.
I can bitch and moan about prices but bottom line is if you’re not stocked up then you will pay whatever the price is to get it. Fuckin sucks though! :(

I make my own test and stay stocked, or try at least. Only because that’s really the only compound I need if it came down to it. I can blast and cruise on test and be just fine. The other compounds I throw in are mainly for fun and to spice shit up a bit. :D

For me, if future prices get close to what a trt clinic would cost then I’ll just go that route. :oops: I mean can you imagine gym prices! :eek:
 
What makes this interesting is the sources that are somewhat established in the underground... I’m wondering which will fade and which will prosper?

In any market where there’s competition there’s always someone who will stick out among the others, for prices, service, ect.. seeing I got enough test to last me through the “Cold Steroid War” where one side is afraid of the other, it interest me the most who will last... and who will not! :eek:

If I were rooting for a source, (which I’m not), I’d like @SymBiotics to be one of the ones that prosper.

He may be fooling me over the Internet, but the anonymous person ‘on the screen’ and with his posts I actually like the guy. Doesn’t mean shit, Ik.... but I can’t help to like the personality he displays.

He’s probably a Internet warlock, wizard, or sorcerer though, maybe watch out for that... :eek:
Either way, I’ll keep tuning in to see how he continues from here to 2021! :D
 
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What makes this interesting is the sources that are somewhat established in the underground... I’m wondering which will fade and which will prosper?

In any market where there’s competition there’s always someone who will stick out among the others, for prices, service, ect.. seeing I got enough test to last me through the “Cold Steroid War” where one side is afraid of the other, it interest me the most who will last... and who will not! :eek:

If I were rooting for a source, (which I’m not), I’d like @SymBiotics to be one of the ones that prosper.

He may be fooling me over the Internet, but the anonymous person ‘on the screen’ and with his posts I actually like the guy. Doesn’t mean shit, Ik.... but I can’t help to like the personality he displays.

He’s probably a Internet warlock, wizard, or sorcerer though, maybe watch out for that... :eek:
Either way, I’ll keep tuning in to see how he continues from here to 2021! :D
"What makes this interesting is the sources that are somewhat established in the underground... I’m wondering which will fade and which will prosper?"


That is a very funny and interesting topic. You should start a thread on this where members can bet.

No disrespect to symbiotics, seems like a nice enough guy, but he's already having issues with half his products being out of stock. He may be the first to go, lol.
 
"What makes this interesting is the sources that are somewhat established in the underground... I’m wondering which will fade and which will prosper?"

That is a very funny and interesting topic. You should start a thread on this where members can bet.

No disrespect to symbiotics, seems like a nice enough guy, but he's already having issues with half his products being out of stock. He may be the first to go, lol.
True lol.

It all depends on the difficulty to get raws and how serious the ban law in China will actually be...

I’m willing to bet the ones that have been around awhile will continue to be around. The newer ones without a real raws connection will probably fade.
But...
If a price increase is all that comes out of all this, then not much will change regarding sources. They’ll be able to stick around, but with higher prices.

Does your favorite source have what it takes to stay alive and advance to the next round!? :D
Tune in next week to find out, on Meso TV! :p
 
What makes this interesting is the sources that are somewhat established in the underground... I’m wondering which will fade and which will prosper?

In any market where there’s competition there’s always someone who will stick out among the others, for prices, service, ect.. seeing I got enough test to last me through the “Cold Steroid War” where one side is afraid of the other, it interest me the most who will last... and who will not! :eek:

If I were rooting for a source, (which I’m not), I’d like @SymBiotics to be one of the ones that prosper.

He may be fooling me over the Internet, but the anonymous person ‘on the screen’ and with his posts I actually like the guy. Doesn’t mean shit, Ik.... but I can’t help to like the personality he displays.

He’s probably a Internet warlock, wizard, or sorcerer though, maybe watch out for that... :eek:
Either way, I’ll keep tuning in to see how he continues from here to 2021! :D
I think that many are going to leave and come back rebranded charging higher prices. So that nobody can bitch if a old lab increases prices.
 
I think everyone is forgetting the fact that all of these new Indian brands are really starting to grow starting with alpha pharma despite their CEO being gone. With the high demand, Indian pharma groups are definitely going to take advantage of this and continue where China left off. Considering that the cost of living is way less in India than China I can't really see the price of raws changing or increasing by much if any
 
"What makes this interesting is the sources that are somewhat established in the underground... I’m wondering which will fade and which will prosper?"


That is a very funny and interesting topic. You should start a thread on this where members can bet.

No disrespect to symbiotics, seems like a nice enough guy, but he's already having issues with half his products being out of stock. He may be the first to go, lol.
Right his main suppler is missing from what I understand ... so now come panic and trying to find them anywhere
 
I think everyone is forgetting the fact that all of these new Indian brands are really starting to grow starting with alpha pharma despite their CEO being gone. With the high demand, Indian pharma groups are definitely going to take advantage of this and continue where China left off. Considering that the cost of living is way less in India than China I can't really see the price of raws changing or increasing by much if any
From what I understand India can’t get there hands on all raws
 
LMFAO with this bullshit. So you've produced quality goods and know ALL the costs that go into producing them? Doesn't appear so...

Uh yeah ? Haven’t paid for finished oil in years. You too stupid to do basic math ? Please explain how ALL the costs are relevant to this discussion. Every other variable is constant. The price of the powder is the only thing changing.
 
Indian product lines won't be able to handle the market. The chinese market isn't just increasing it's price. It's not going to produce as much. Look at the fact that it's already very hard to get test e. The price on that just trippled. Nobody said that finished oils are going to double or tripple, but they will go up. Maybe $10 a vial on average. That's my guess. Everybody thinks everyones gouging everybody. If you need to save $40,000 for an order now as opposed to $15,000 you would be a fool not to raise your prices ahead of time. Not because it's going to cost you more at this moment, but the fact that you will need to aquire more capitol to stay in business. The source that doesn't get that will be the first source to go. Or maybe that source doesn't go, but they will look like the amateur league with always being out of product and never being able to stay ahead of the game. It's not the raw providers that are the first step in the price increase. Wherever your getting your raws, thier prices are going up, the manufacturers prices are going up, the chemicals to produce products prices are going up, the product on hand is low and the demand is high. Everyone can get mad, but it just is what it is and india can't save us. That's like your house is a raging blaze and one guy with a 5 gallon bucket is running up and people are looking saying "yay, help is here"
 
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