SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[RoidmeDangerfield]

I'm an old goat. I'm pushing 50. But if it helps people usually tell me I look like i'm 31.

I know I sound really green by asking. But it's been two decades since I used underground gear. And back then I don't recall there ever being options to choose from.

 

[janoshik]

I covered this a few times on MESO.

It’s perfectly fine to mix multiple compounds like that just as long as you’re careful. If you shake it too much it turns gay. Then you’ll run the risk of injecting the gay and you don’t want to do that, brutha.

Nothing like speaking from experience

 

[Sitakikupa]

So if i draw 2ml of a tren/test mix, would i be drawing close to 1ml of each considering they both the same oil.

I am guessing i would need to shake both vials before drawing and dumping into a new tren/test vial.

Will one turn guy if they shake pre or post blend vial.

I covered this a few times on MESO.

It’s perfectly fine to mix multiple compounds like that just as long as you’re careful. If you shake it too much it turns gay. Then you’ll run the risk of injecting the gay and you don’t want to do that, brutha.

 

[MuskleSimpson]

You should check your E2... You seem super emotional. You claimed that cruising at 300 was “stupid”—I’m assuming you’re gonna give me some bro-science bullshit as to why it’s stupid? So, let’s hear it... Because all my shit is clear, my E2 is in check and I’m healthy... Maybe you should stop believing everything you hear on the internet.


Who are you to dictate what is or isn’t cruising? There’s guys here who cruise on 500mg all year round, then go blast 2G. For someone so angry and self righteous about another man’s endeavors, you really aren’t that bright.

@NovaFlex As much as I agree with what you state about anyone can pin whatever they want or cycle however they want as long as it's not "harmful" or "irresponsible" and works for them.

But isnt a cruise "also for example cruise for trt"....usually around what the body would be normal producing testosterone..and 300mg/week I would think seems like that wouldnt be for "normal" levels of test off gear.
(But yeah I understand "cruising" could be any test pinning substantial lower in between time to then next cycle)

 

[MuskleSimpson]

I covered this a few times on MESO.

It’s perfectly fine to mix multiple compounds like that just as long as you’re careful. If you shake it too much it turns gay. Then you’ll run the risk of injecting the gay and you don’t want to do that, brutha.

Wow that's gold haha...hmm so goin gay CAN be a choice?

 

[bigrobbie]

It's a choice from your first barbie dream home experience bro!

 

[jackmeoff1]

GSO causes swelling and pip with every pin. MCT causes no swelling and minimal pip.

My experience is the exact opposite. GSO has always been smooth; MCT causes mild PIP.

 

[bigrobbie]

I like GSO also. Just used walnut oil for the first time as I mentioned last week. It's a bit puppy, lol...

 

[Physique Demon]

My experience is the exact opposite. GSO has always been smooth; MCT causes mild PIP.

Definitely people dependant, like everything else. I guess you gotta just try and figure out. Because I'm also a MCT person.

 

[TNotch347]

I’ve tried MCT and body hated it, nice big ol welt for a week after pinning. I stick with sesame and gso, what works for me. Although guys have said if you give mct time your body adjusts. Don’t know how true that is..

 

[Worf]

I really really really really really don't want to get into an argument here and I'm not saying this because I want to dictate something to anybody, but I really really feel the duty to mention, in hope I might protect somebody's health, that the fact that the bloodwork and other tests are perfect might NOT indicate the damage done.

I think that "the straw that broke the camel's back" idiom might be appropriate to describe what's happening while running highly supraphysiological doses (such as 500 mg on a cruise). The minor chronic damage is not detected until it finally manifests in disproportionate manner. (for example kidneys absolutely love to go FUBAR that way)

There is definitely wear and tear that blood test won’t pick up on. It’s a personal decision people have to make and I don’t think anyone on a steroid board should be telling other guys how to cruise. Nothing wrong with waning about the risks associated. It’s a life style that is chosen. Trt studies show slightly elevated testosterone is better than chronically low testosterone but how much any one guy can really get away with and not cause damage is a purely individual thing

 

[Phelan84]

Anyone else having issues emailing symbiotics? I'm using my protonmail account and it's saying message failed , recipient could not be found

 

[Horimono]

Hey, guys. About to place an order but wanted to know what any difference was between the two different oils that Sym offers. Not sure if grape seed oil GSO is better than MCT in any way or vice versa. I'm guessing this was covered somewhere? Sorry for missing it. Hope to get some input. Thanks.

Personally, GSO has never given me problems. A little thick. MCT always causes me PIP. My bro too. I won’t touch it.

 

[notdeadYET]

Anyone else having issues emailing symbiotics? I'm using my protonmail account and it's saying message failed , recipient could not be found

He changed his email. You're using the old one. Look backwards from here for a recent pastebin for his new email address.

 

[Phelan84]

He changed his email. You're using the old one. Look backwards from here for a recent pastebin for his new email address.

Thanks bro!! I appreciate that !

 

[Chmewy]

What's going on everyone I'm a newbie to this but I've been a weirdo reading through all ur guyses comments while I was trynna get approved by MESO...anyways tranna run ma 1st ever cycle should I go with test-c or test-e @250-500mg/week...anyone know if the test-e is gtg?

Or what would u guyses recommendation be as a newbie to AAS.

Many thanks broskies.

Test E and C are pretty much the same, test C just has a little longer half life

 

[Horimono]

@NovaFlex As much as I agree with what you state about anyone can pin whatever they want or cycle however they want as long as it's not "harmful" or "irresponsible" and works for them.

But isnt a cruise "also for example cruise for trt"....usually around what the body would be normal producing testosterone..and 300mg/week I would think seems like that wouldnt be for "normal" levels of test off gear.
(But yeah I understand "cruising" could be any test pinning substantial lower in between time to then next cycle)

I’m on 300mg Test C TRT from a Dr. Puts me around 900 or so. I just started seeing this guy at the first of 2019. Had records transferred over. Was rx’d 300 from my previous guy. He continued treatment but then pulled blood 4 months into it. I knew it was coming. After he got the results, he couldn’t figure out why I was over 1500 since all my previous levels were in range. Said it was an error on my part from timing. Then 4 months later we repeat the process. Test was again over 1500. After the second, he reduced my dosage down to 250. Then this last blood draw 3 weeks ago my level was 460. He couldn’t understand why. He was literally scratching his head.

I felt it was better to be honest so I said, “have you ever heard of blasting and cruising”? Then went into an explanation about me doing this, taking Anadrol, EQ, NPP etc etc. Raws from China etc etc. Swear to God he said, “ wow, wish you would have told me that 4 months ago, I wouldn’t have reduced your dosage. Let’s get you back up to 300mg.”

He asked me about my physical goals and if I was gonna compete. Advised regular donating etc etc. Raised my dosage back up to 300 cause that’s what I need to be around high normal. Feel like shit at 460. Told him I have friends who are around 3k total Test. He was like WTF?! Lol

 

[TNotch347]

When donating blood any difference if they take plasma, rather than just filling a bag.. besides the time between.

 

[Sven_Northman]

When donating blood any difference if they take plasma, rather than just filling a bag.. besides the time between.

Why not just read about it on the Red Cross website? Its completely different. If your hematocrit is high you donate blood.

 

[Discodon]

Ok so was thinking of running the Dhb next cut cycle. Usually hard to find cause of fakes. Anybody use dhb lately not from sym but in general. What did you think of it and dosage. Last cut was 500 test c 350 npp and 425 mastp nice results. Just looking for some different advice thanks