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No I told my wife I couldn't read my daughter's texts anymore; so she went and read it for herself.
Yes, I am honest with her about everything.

I must say, this thread went left real quick out of no where with those messages haha! Very unexpected. Id say , teenagers saying teenager shit. I think your wife seeing the messages would the best bet don't take it too personal ha
 
first ...your dr is an idiot.
find a new one.
49 is great...If u go and donate that often you will crash ferritan bigtime.
If you ever crashed e2...crashing iron/ferritan is worse.
Donating a pint will usually drop hct by 4 to 5 % ...so 2 to 2.5 points.

Let me guess, you self medicate? It’s not uncommon for trt Docs to have patients donate within the 60 day allowed standard. My labs look great so what I’m doing seems to be spot on. With that said, I’m not going every 30 days and it’s actually probably closer to 60 days before I go. My body will tell me when it’s time. Anywho, I hear ya and what you’re saying probably does apply to most but even on a simple dose of 100mg as my trt it puts me out of range. I know you mentioned 49 isn’t high. 49 seems to be my sweet spot and I feel great there. With that said, it’s slightly out of range.

Not debating with you by the way. Like I said, what you say is true for a normal person not on trt. Mainly only replied because you called my doc an idiot. I’ll have you know, I tried to fuck a chicken once. :D
 
This sounded like an exact clip from America. Beauty when the daughters friend said she would totally fuck her dad if he just worked out a little more.
I have a 9yr old daughter and thank god she hasn’t reached the age of introducing boys yet or reaching that mindset yet.
I try to prepare myself for when the day comes so I don’t over react because of attempting to be over protective.
In your situation I can only imagine how concerning it can be reading that but as long as she never tries to cross the line and bring something like that into light with you I’m sure it is just a phase as her hormonal levels are developing.

It's one of those young girl phase things..whoa American Beauty..just dont start smoking pot and jamming out to jimi hendrix in your car :rolleyes:

My wife just sent me a clip from this. I don't understand why it is so comical to her.
I'll bet I would not be cracking jokes if some 17yr old boy was talking about her like that.
I'm just going to go to the gym. Thanks for reading.
 
I'll bet I would not be cracking jokes if some 17yr old boy was talking about her like that.

If your wife is at all decent looking then a 17 year old boy HAS talked about her like that.

We were all 17 yrs old and we all said those same things.

Keep it in perspective Sym otherwise this is gonna stick in your head and cause psychological problems for you later on!
 
To be completely honest, I am going down a path with this that is completely by the seat of my pants.
I will tell you this though: the data contained in the Nebido prescribing information is either A) skewed tremendously in favor of the manufacturer's claims; or B) well, there is no B. They are just marketing.

So the math doesn't work for me either:
For example, one of the members in this thread posted serum testosterone result on my Test-P that was tested as accurately dosed. At 140mg/week; his serum T was around 900. That's perfect in my opinion.
So that person is using 140mg/week, or 560mg/month, or 7280mg/year of Test-P.

The Nebido studies are done on 1000mg injections every 12 weeks with one injection at the onset and 6week marks to load.
The math on that gives us 83mg/week, 333mg/month, or 4333mg/year. The undecylenate ester will take up some amount of the dose weight that would equate to less testosterone than would be cleaved from Test-P; so that is an even lower dose.
I would assume that the study conductors would be satisfied with sub-500 serum testosterone levels; so to get around 900 where I personally feel good, the injection volume would increase at the 12 week intervals to around 8ml. I'm not injecting 8ml of anything in one setting.

Another thing is the literature states there is a rise to eugonadic levels on day 3 post-injection. I just don't see that happening for everyone with this ester.
If you look at their graph, the duration of the 12 week interval between injections is spent on a decline in serum testosterone: not the flat line that they want you to believe.

I could see spacing injections out maybe up to 4 weeks and it would be reasonably plausible for testosterostasis (I am copyrighting that word); but not 12 weeks. It just doesn't make sense and I think the data is skewed to facilitate marketing.

I don't think the oil has a single thing to do with it. I just like avocados and I have a friend that has a plantation of them; so it is just a purely personal choice.

I have been a human science project for a while now and I plan to study how this works for my personal use. I think it will be 2 months or more before my blood will be reliable to test because of all the wacko stuff I have been injecting lately with these test batches. I will definitely post it here when available.
Avocados for Democrats good fats
 
Let me guess, you self medicate? It’s not uncommon for trt Docs to have patients donate within the 60 day allowed standard. My labs look great so what I’m doing seems to be spot on. With that said, I’m not going every 30 days and it’s actually probably closer to 60 days before I go. My body will tell me when it’s time. Anywho, I hear ya and what you’re saying probably does apply to most but even on a simple dose of 100mg as my trt it puts me out of range. I know you mentioned 49 isn’t high. 49 seems to be my sweet spot and I feel great there. With that said, it’s slightly out of range.

Not debating with you by the way. Like I said, what you say is true for a normal person not on trt. Mainly only replied because you called my doc an idiot. I’ll have you know, I tried to fuck a chicken once. :D
I see we have a similar trt experience...less chicken fucking anyway.
At 150mg/week it puts me in 1300 tt e2 low to mid 40s and my hct hangs in the 49 50 depending on hydration etc.
i can tell when mine approaches the 52 53ish value.
But i have donated only twice in 6 years now.
Just watch how you feel and the iron ferritan values on the metabolic panel.
Trust me you will know if it gets low...lol.
Now lets talk poultry parties......
 
How come when i email this source, my email gets returned? Is he still open?

Where's the price list? i sent an email asking for one, but it got returned.

i can't meet the minimum because i live with my Mom still and she only gives me $10 a week for taking out the garbage. Can i place a $50 order?

Can you make me a custom blend of Tren E and water based Winstrol for my first cycle? i want three vials if you can.

Is this source g2g?

My friend wants to order a vial of Test Prop. If he adds it to my order can you ship them separately to both of our addresses?

:D
 
How come when i email this source, my email gets returned? Is he still open?

Where's the price list? i sent an email asking for one, but it got returned.

i can't meet the minimum because i live with my Mom still and she only gives me $10 a week for taking out the garbage. Can i place a $50 order?

Can you make me a custom blend of Tren E and water based Winstrol for my first cycle? i want three vials if you can.

Is this source g2g?

My friend wants to order a vial of Test Prop. If he adds it to my order can you ship them separately to both of our addresses?

:D
I can’t even think of anything clever to say... lol you hit em all.
 
My wife just sent me a clip from this. I don't understand why it is so comical to her.
I'll bet I would not be cracking jokes if some 17yr old boy was talking about her like that.
I'm just going to go to the gym. Thanks for reading.


Bro you did the right thing by telling your wife. Transparency goes a long way. Even if someone is a peace of crap if they are transparent they will get more respect than a fake.

AND!

You’re wife loves what’s happening because it confirms the fact that she is with a desirable man.

Let’s put it this way, if you didn’t have a career, if your psychology wasn’t so developed, and if you weren’t good looking.

What do you think your wife’s perspective be about your persona? What do you believe her family and friends would have to say about you? Not something good right? That would only lead your wife to no longer find you attractive. Because women look for a respected lead/provider ultimately.

In your reality, you are a very desired man amongst women. There is no age limit for affirmation when it comes to your social value. Restrictions do not apply my man. Your wife is getting a high off this because she’s happy she’s with such a high value man. It reminds her she made a good decision. Is it weird? Hell yeah bro! But that’s how this world works.

Also your prob going to get laid when you get home. Lol
 
Oh shit I almost forgot!!!

You know how they called you a dork?
I’m pretty sure you’re not a dork and they misinterpreted charisma for some dweeb shit.
(Still young,they don’t know)

If you were a dweeb, I doubt that people in your profession would respect you or listen to you during your presentations. They wouldn’t even give you the time of day. But you’re obviously out here killing it with the skill sets and your wife ready for pound town and shit. So yeah, charisma my guy.

She out here ready to make babies with you for Jesus! Haha

(Again, also Christian)
 
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