SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

i don't see it happening any time soon and if does, it won't last long, like W&M. It's asking a lot of someone that's invested so much time, effort and money into that career field to test illegal drugs for a hundred bucks a pop, given the consequences that would come with getting caught.

I've made my research, and it's pretty much impossible to have a company like mine run in US legally. Otherwise I'd open a joint there long ago and reap the benefits of at least double the volume from my US clients, lol.

However, it's simply not possible legally. Nobody is going to make a big investment that a proper lab requires and then run a relatively low profit business that testing is. Selling AAS is even less risky while much higher profit from the start up in the US, so people who are well versed enough will just start an AAS lab, or bake meth or whatever. If the lab won't reach certain volume, it will never be profitable. Hell, I was running pretty much at a loss for the first few years.

Some might illegally use established labs for testing, but that's very limited. Once they start hitting any significant volume, shit starts going downhill. Apparently there was a californian lab long before my time that got fucked badly for testing AAS. ( I think @Millard Baker mentioned it a few times, but my memory is foggy )

Some might start labs with very little investment, but those are going to be shit (looking at you, Xylia). Buying a shitty FTIR is not enough to run a proper lab, unfortunately, and he probably doesn't have balls to run another 'manufacturing' lab after being busted.

SIMEC, ChemTox and me are all in Europe operating legally, and yet we all are under tremendous legal pressure. Just importing anything that's a random bunch of chemicals without any MSDS into EU is like running a marathon in a dung. Not sure about Lab4Tox, because, somehow, I assume nobody in Poland gives a shit, as they are now accepting cash in mail, which is illegal pretty much anywhere in civilized world AFAIK. If shit hits the fan I'll just move back to Poland I guess.

Sorry, end of rant.

Cheers, peace, love and happiness.

Yeah I completely understand why someone wouldn't/couldn't in the US. I just meant it would be nice to have.

Wasn't intended to be a shot at @janoshik or anything because all the tests from him I have seen in the past few months have been fast turnaround and on point.

In all honesty I'm just butthurt about giving USPS $70 to essentially drop my pack in the ocean and hope it washes ashore, so I had to vent.
 
Yeah I completely understand why someone wouldn't/couldn't in the US. I just meant it would be nice to have.

Wasn't intended to be a shot at @janoshik or anything because all the tests from him I have seen in the past few months have been fast turnaround and on point.

In all honesty I'm just butthurt about giving USPS $70 to essentially drop my pack in the ocean and hope it washes ashore, so I had to vent.
I didn't understand it as such, I just went on to provide some unrequested insight :D
 
I've made my research, and it's pretty much impossible to have a company like mine run in US legally. Otherwise I'd open a joint there long ago and reap the benefits of at least double the volume from my US clients, lol.

However, it's simply not possible legally. Nobody is going to make a big investment that a proper lab requires and then run a relatively low profit business that testing is. Selling AAS is even less risky while much higher profit from the start up in the US, so people who are well versed enough will just start an AAS lab, or bake meth or whatever. If the lab won't reach certain volume, it will never be profitable. Hell, I was running pretty much at a loss for the first few years.

Some might illegally use established labs for testing, but that's very limited. Once they start hitting any significant volume, shit starts going downhill. Apparently there was a californian lab long before my time that got fucked badly for testing AAS. ( I think @Millard Baker mentioned it a few times, but my memory is foggy )

Some might start labs with very little investment, but those are going to be shit (looking at you, Xylia). Buying a shitty FTIR is not enough to run a proper lab, unfortunately, and he probably doesn't have balls to run another 'manufacturing' lab after being busted.

SIMEC, ChemTox and me are all in Europe operating legally, and yet we all are under tremendous legal pressure. Just importing anything that's a random bunch of chemicals without any MSDS into EU is like running a marathon in a dung. Not sure about Lab4Tox, because, somehow, I assume nobody in Poland gives a shit, as they are now accepting cash in mail, which is illegal pretty much anywhere in civilized world AFAIK. If shit hits the fan I'll just move back to Poland I guess.

Sorry, end of rant.

Cheers, peace, love and happiness.

San Rafael Chemical Services was who we used to use here on Meso from about 2001 - 2012. They were very good for analytical testing. I forgot that they did get into some trouble for testing AAS. Yes, it sucks that Weights and Measures no longer tests, but I can understand the owner of the lab having to be extremely careful.
 
San Rafael Chemical Services was who we used to use here on Meso from about 2001 - 2012. They were very good for analytical testing. I forgot that they did get into some trouble for testing AAS. Yes, it sucks that Weights and Measures no longer tests, but I can understand the owner of the lab having to be extremely careful.
Yes, that was the name, but 2012?
Didn't the raid happen sometime more like 2009 or sooner?
 
Hello all. I hope everyone is doing well.
I have to apologize for allowing a few emails to go unanswered for over a day. I had to take care of some important matters that took my attention for the last day or so.
I have been working on a tutorial to make it easy for people to use XMR. When I feel that it is final, I will post it here with a notice for the last day i will accept BTC.

I have given much thought to becoming a 'private' enterprise. I think I will use the term "exclusive" though----just because it sounds fancy. I am going to do this in the future and there will be a notice posted here soon.
I have had many requests for the product list lately; and I realized I have not posted it in a while. Please see it below:
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Hello all. I hope everyone is doing well.
I have to apologize for allowing a few emails to go unanswered for over a day. I had to take care of some important matters that took my attention for the last day or so.
I have been working on a tutorial to make it easy for people to use XMR. When I feel that it is final, I will post it here with a notice for the last day i will accept BTC.

I have given much thought to becoming a 'private' enterprise. I think I will use the term "exclusive" though----just because it sounds fancy. I am going to do this in the future and there will be a notice posted here soon.
I have had many requests for the product list lately; and I realized I have not posted it in a while. Please see it below:
<script src=""></script>

So I finally can become an exclusive member of something!

*bucket list check*

In all seriousness sounds like a good plan considering the address issues.
 
Hello all. I hope everyone is doing well.
I have to apologize for allowing a few emails to go unanswered for over a day. I had to take care of some important matters that took my attention for the last day or so.
I have been working on a tutorial to make it easy for people to use XMR. When I feel that it is final, I will post it here with a notice for the last day i will accept BTC.

I have given much thought to becoming a 'private' enterprise. I think I will use the term "exclusive" though----just because it sounds fancy. I am going to do this in the future and there will be a notice posted here soon.
I have had many requests for the product list lately; and I realized I have not posted it in a while. Please see it below:
<script src=""></script>

Coolio! Also, cakewallet is a super simple way of converting BTC to XMR! That’s how I’ve been doing it as of late
 
Hello all. I hope everyone is doing well.
I have to apologize for allowing a few emails to go unanswered for over a day. I had to take care of some important matters that took my attention for the last day or so.
I have been working on a tutorial to make it easy for people to use XMR. When I feel that it is final, I will post it here with a notice for the last day i will accept BTC.

I have given much thought to becoming a 'private' enterprise. I think I will use the term "exclusive" though----just because it sounds fancy. I am going to do this in the future and there will be a notice posted here soon.
I have had many requests for the product list lately; and I realized I have not posted it in a while. Please see it below:
<script src=""></script>

I’m guessing to get into the exclusive club I will have to have placed a successful order before? (I feel like a high roller just saying those words!)
About time to go to the dark side lol
 
Hello all. I hope everyone is doing well.
I have to apologize for allowing a few emails to go unanswered for over a day. I had to take care of some important matters that took my attention for the last day or so.
I have been working on a tutorial to make it easy for people to use XMR. When I feel that it is final, I will post it here with a notice for the last day i will accept BTC.

I have given much thought to becoming a 'private' enterprise. I think I will use the term "exclusive" though----just because it sounds fancy. I am going to do this in the future and there will be a notice posted here soon.
I have had many requests for the product list lately; and I realized I have not posted it in a while. Please see it below:
<script src=""></script>


My man. Thanks for the update.
 
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