SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

When I asked him how big it was he said what he cut out was about the size of a baseball. They told the girl I was with at the time I wouldn’t have lived another week. I could barely stand up straight and couldn’t lay down without being in immense pain. It was so bad and spread through my body I could even watch my stomach swelling. When I finally was rushed to the er I was losing my sight and screaming and crying. I also hadn’t slept in a week because of how badly I was hurting. So when I see how Sym has responded I’m fucking dumbfounded. Especially with him saying the floaters are sterile
How quickly did things set in for you?
 
It was about 3 days when the inflammation and pain really started to set in. I went to one hospital and they said it was a contusion without really looking at. After 3 more weeks I almost died.
Where you open to them about your gear usage at first? And say they catch it at the 3 day mark, would this have been avoided?
 
Where you open to them about your gear usage at first? And say they catch it at the 3 day mark, would this have been avoided?
I told them I took a b12 injection IM but they I honestly think the er just didn’t wanna deal with it at that time.I’m sure it wouldn’t have it have been as bad but it still pretty bad at that point.
 
I told them I took a b12 injection IM but they I honestly think the er just didn’t wanna deal with it at that time.I’m sure it wouldn’t have it have been as bad but it still pretty bad at that point.
Yeah 3 days versus 3 weeks is pretty significant. Can’t imagine. Sweet. Thanks can’t ever find first hand info like this.
 
For anybody thinking about ordering from Sym. He sent out dirty gear and refuses to trash it or even take the time to refilter it. Instead he’s still going to sell it at a discounted price that would put him at a normal cost for a lot of ugl that have never sent out oils with floaters that could cause sterile abscesses. But don’t worry because the floaters are sterile and the gear is blessed by a priest and prayed over. What a good Christian. Now he expects you all to have the faith that he has that his gear will be good from now on. He apologized and will replace all floater gear with gear from the same batches possibly without stuff you can see. He’s somehow different and held to a lower standard than the rest of the labs because.... well I have no fucking clue besides the gear was dosed properly.
If anyone wants to see what a sterile abscess scar looks like that almost killed me and left me in the hospital for a month let me know and I’ll show you. It’s an ugly permanent dent in my ass from infection that had to be cut out. It was literally the most painful thing I’ve felt in my entire life.
But all is forgiven and well he said he’s sorry and took a long time to think about what’s he done. He was very hurt by words so please go easy on his tender little heart or else he won’t come back to play steroid Hiesenberg.

S317, I am very sorry to hear your story. I am really sorry that happened to you. It could have happened to me, it could have happened to BigBaldBeardGuy, it could have happened to Millard, it could have happened to anyone of us here on this board. It is a risk I have taken for all these years I have been sticking myself. It is a risk every one of us takes every time we stick ourselves. I have been really blessed to stick myself thousands of times over the last almost 20 years and never have to be hospitalized with a sterile or non-sterile abscess. But yeah, my luck could run out tomorrow and the next time I log into Meso, I could be logging in from the hospital myself. I have been blessed with good fortune, I hope my good fortune continues !! I hope I do not draw the short end of the stick like you !! I am sorry buddy that happened to you.

Good friend of mine back in 2011 had a very similar situation to yours happen to him. He bought gear from a source off of outlawmuscle. It turns out the gear he bought was dirty. He does quad shots. Injected into his left vastus lateralis just as he always does. His Left leg started to swell up with a tremendous amount of edema and continued to swell over the course of about 3 weeks. He and I lived in different cities at that time, so I did not even know what he was going through or experiencing. He told me by about day 17 of the tremendous edema, his left thigh was so edematous, that he could not even flex his left leg at the knee by more than about 10 to 15 degrees. He said his left leg would simply not even flex more than about 10-15 degrees due to the unbelievable amount of edema in his left thigh. So basically, when he walked, he had to walk almost stiff-legged in his left leg as he could only bend that leg a tiny tiny bit from the tremendous swelling.

When he went to the hospital, to make a long story short, the General Surgeon who preformed the surgery to drain his abscess (as it turns out, his abscess was not a sterile abscess, but rather an MRSA positive abscess - after the surgery he was placed on IV Vancomycin and Zosyn (Tazobactam / Piperacillin) - (2) of the strongest antibiotics known to man due to the potentially deadly nature of a MRSA positive infection (Thank God it was not MVRSA (Vancomycin resistant MRSA) or he would have been in deep deep trouble !! He might have died. ) Anyways, the General Surgeon said it was the largest abscess he had ever drained in his 25 years of being a General Surgeon. The surgeon drained (1.3) Liters of infection from his leg ! (1.3) Liters !! He told me the General Surgeon said it was just unbelievable the size of the abscess, and said his leg might have actually exploded due to the huge pressure buildup from the tremendous amount of edema in his thigh.

As it turns out, my buddy had to have a large chunk of his left vastus lateralis and left rectus femoris removed in order for the surgeon to be able to get to the asbcess which was very very deep in his thigh and drain it completely. So he is missing a huge chunk of his vastus lateralis and rectus femoris in his left thigh.

My friend's right leg is perfect, looks normal. His left leg - is badly deformed. But luckily he has 100% function in it and lost, amazingly, no strength in it !! It is so weird, when he squats and leg presses, somehow his body has compensated and even though his right quad is much bigger than his left quad, his left quad is just as strong as his right quad. It is the weirdest thing !! I would have expected for his right quad to be much stronger than his left quad ?? But no not at all, even after the surgery and even after him now missing perhaps 25% of his left quad, AMAZINGLY, somehow his body has compensated and his left leg is 100% as strong as his right leg !! So even though his left leg, aesthetically, was damaged - functionally his left leg is 100% perfect. It is so weird man, he and I laugh about it. He has a really fucked up looking left leg, but a very very strong and powerful left leg. It's so weird !!

The human body is pretty amazing at how it can compensate when it is absolutely forced to compensate. I have always been amazed at the human body. Kind of like when a person loses his sight........his body compensates by having the sense of hearing become much more keen to compensate for that loss of sight !!

Anyways, my buddy's gear turned out to be dirty, as there were about 5 or 6 other members of outlawmuscle who ended up just like my friend - hospitalized with abscesses.

Symbiotic's attitude to being called out for selling dirty gear is just unbelievable. His attitude is so cavalier and callous - I would love to punch Symbiotic in the face as hard as I could. Hitting Symb in the face as hard as I could would make me feel better about what happened to my good friend.

Symb simply does not even give a shit that he is selling dirty gear. The guy just does not even care.

But oh well, Symb is a "devout Christian", so that justifies his terrible behavior, right ? As long as Symb is a "Christian", then everything is good, right? (Face Palm)
 
S317, I am very sorry to hear your story. I am really sorry that happened to you. It could have happened to me, it could have happened to BigBaldBeardGuy, it could have happened to Millard, it could have happened to anyone of us here on this board. It is a risk I have taken for all these years I have been sticking myself. It is a risk every one of us takes every time we stick ourselves. I have been really blessed to stick myself thousands of times over the last almost 20 years and never have to be hospitalized with a sterile or non-sterile abscess. But yeah, my luck could run out tomorrow and the next time I log into Meso, I could be logging in from the hospital myself. I have been blessed with good fortune, I hope my good fortune continues !! I hope I do not draw the short end of the stick like you !! I am sorry buddy that happened to you.

Good friend of mine back in 2011 had a very similar situation to yours happen to him. He bought gear from a source off of outlawmuscle. It turns out the gear he bought was dirty. He does quad shots. Injected into his left vastus lateralis just as he always does. His Left leg started to swell up with a tremendous amount of edema and continued to swell over the course of about 3 weeks. He and I lived in different cities at that time, so I did not even know what he was going through or experiencing. He told me by about day 17 of the tremendous edema, his left thigh was so edematous, that he could not even flex his left leg at the knee by more than about 10 to 15 degrees. He said his left leg would simply not even flex more than about 10-15 degrees due to the unbelievable amount of edema in his left thigh. So basically, when he walked, he had to walk almost stiff-legged in his left leg as he could only bend that leg a tiny tiny bit from the tremendous swelling.

When he went to the hospital, to make a long story short, the General Surgeon who preformed the surgery to drain his abscess (as it turns out, his abscess was not a sterile abscess, but rather an MRSA positive abscess - after the surgery he was placed on IV Vancomycin and Zosyn (Tazobactam / Piperacillin) - (2) of the strongest antibiotics known to man due to the potentially deadly nature of a MRSA positive infection (Thank God it was not MVRSA (Vancomycin resistant MRSA) or he would have been in deep deep trouble !! He might have died. ) Anyways, the General Surgeon said it was the largest abscess he had ever drained in his 25 years of being a General Surgeon. The surgeon drained (1.3) Liters of infection from his leg ! (1.3) Liters !! He told me the General Surgeon said it was just unbelievable the size of the abscess, and said his leg might have actually exploded due to the huge pressure buildup from the tremendous amount of edema in his thigh.

As it turns out, my buddy had to have a large chunk of his left vastus lateralis and left rectus femoris removed in order for the surgeon to be able to get to the asbcess which was very very deep in his thigh and drain it completely. So he is missing a huge chunk of his vastus lateralis and rectus femoris in his left thigh.

My friend's right leg is perfect, looks normal. His left leg - is badly deformed. But luckily he has 100% function in it and lost, amazingly, no strength in it !! It is so weird, when he squats and leg presses, somehow his body has compensated and even though his right quad is much bigger than his left quad, his left quad is just as strong as his right quad. It is the weirdest thing !! I would have expected for his right quad to be much stronger than his left quad ?? But no not at all, even after the surgery and even after him now missing perhaps 25% of his left quad, AMAZINGLY, somehow his body has compensated and his left leg is 100% as strong as his right leg !! So even though his left leg, aesthetically, was damaged - functionally his left leg is 100% perfect. It is so weird man, he and I laugh about it. He has a really fucked up looking left leg, but a very very strong and powerful left leg. It's so weird !!

The human body is pretty amazing at how it can compensate when it is absolutely forced to compensate. I have always been amazed at the human body. Kind of like when a person loses his sight........his body compensates by having the sense of hearing become much more keen to compensate for that loss of sight !!

Anyways, my buddy's gear turned out to be dirty, as there were about 5 or 6 other members of outlawmuscle who ended up just like my friend - hospitalized with abscesses.

Symbiotic's attitude to being called out for selling dirty gear is just unbelievable. His attitude is so cavalier and callous - I would love to punch Symbiotic in the face as hard as I could. Hitting Symb in the face as hard as I could would make me feel better about what happened to my good friend.

Symb simply does not even give a shit that he is selling dirty gear. The guy just does not even care.

But oh well, Symb is a "devout Christian", so that justifies his terrible behavior, right ? As long as Symb is a "Christian", then everything is good, right? (Face Palm)


I’m sure you didn’t see the part where he offered a 15% discount

@Kim
 
I’m sure you didn’t see the part where he offered a 15% discount

@Kim

But, didn’t he already have a 15% discount for using xmr? But says the gear in question is discounted 15% but you can’t combine it with the xmr discount. So basically there’s no difference than what he was offering to begin with? Guess it sounded good o_O
 
But, didn’t he already have a 15% discount for using xmr? But says the gear in question is discounted 15% but you can’t combine it with the xmr discount. So basically there’s no difference than what he was offering to begin with? Guess it sounded good o_O

Yeah it’s a fantastic deal if you are Helen Keller!

Ahem*

This is a story all about how
Sym is gonna skip town
I’d like to take a minute, just sit right there
And I’ll tell you how Sym became king of brewing dirty gear

@Tiredandhot
 
But, didn’t he already have a 15% discount for using xmr? But says the gear in question is discounted 15% but you can’t combine it with the xmr discount. So basically there’s no difference than what he was offering to begin with? Guess it sounded good o_O


How dare you even try to discount already sterile gear with an additional discount. This isn’t Golden Corral , no stacking coupons.

now everyone look. After you buy this gear, spend money to filter it, and then do his job at inspecting the work you had to put into it, you’ll have some nice 55$ testosterone

@bolder
 
But, didn’t he already have a 15% discount for using xmr? But says the gear in question is discounted 15% but you can’t combine it with the xmr discount. So basically there’s no difference than what he was offering to begin with? Guess it sounded good o_O
Yeah what a pompous ass. Maybe when he wakes up tomorrow and logs on he will realize he's no longer selling gear here.
 
S317, I am very sorry to hear your story. I am really sorry that happened to you. It could have happened to me, it could have happened to BigBaldBeardGuy, it could have happened to Millard, it could have happened to anyone of us here on this board. It is a risk I have taken for all these years I have been sticking myself. It is a risk every one of us takes every time we stick ourselves. I have been really blessed to stick myself thousands of times over the last almost 20 years and never have to be hospitalized with a sterile or non-sterile abscess. But yeah, my luck could run out tomorrow and the next time I log into Meso, I could be logging in from the hospital myself. I have been blessed with good fortune, I hope my good fortune continues !! I hope I do not draw the short end of the stick like you !! I am sorry buddy that happened to you.

Good friend of mine back in 2011 had a very similar situation to yours happen to him. He bought gear from a source off of outlawmuscle. It turns out the gear he bought was dirty. He does quad shots. Injected into his left vastus lateralis just as he always does. His Left leg started to swell up with a tremendous amount of edema and continued to swell over the course of about 3 weeks. He and I lived in different cities at that time, so I did not even know what he was going through or experiencing. He told me by about day 17 of the tremendous edema, his left thigh was so edematous, that he could not even flex his left leg at the knee by more than about 10 to 15 degrees. He said his left leg would simply not even flex more than about 10-15 degrees due to the unbelievable amount of edema in his left thigh. So basically, when he walked, he had to walk almost stiff-legged in his left leg as he could only bend that leg a tiny tiny bit from the tremendous swelling.

When he went to the hospital, to make a long story short, the General Surgeon who preformed the surgery to drain his abscess (as it turns out, his abscess was not a sterile abscess, but rather an MRSA positive abscess - after the surgery he was placed on IV Vancomycin and Zosyn (Tazobactam / Piperacillin) - (2) of the strongest antibiotics known to man due to the potentially deadly nature of a MRSA positive infection (Thank God it was not MVRSA (Vancomycin resistant MRSA) or he would have been in deep deep trouble !! He might have died. ) Anyways, the General Surgeon said it was the largest abscess he had ever drained in his 25 years of being a General Surgeon. The surgeon drained (1.3) Liters of infection from his leg ! (1.3) Liters !! He told me the General Surgeon said it was just unbelievable the size of the abscess, and said his leg might have actually exploded due to the huge pressure buildup from the tremendous amount of edema in his thigh.

As it turns out, my buddy had to have a large chunk of his left vastus lateralis and left rectus femoris removed in order for the surgeon to be able to get to the asbcess which was very very deep in his thigh and drain it completely. So he is missing a huge chunk of his vastus lateralis and rectus femoris in his left thigh.

My friend's right leg is perfect, looks normal. His left leg - is badly deformed. But luckily he has 100% function in it and lost, amazingly, no strength in it !! It is so weird, when he squats and leg presses, somehow his body has compensated and even though his right quad is much bigger than his left quad, his left quad is just as strong as his right quad. It is the weirdest thing !! I would have expected for his right quad to be much stronger than his left quad ?? But no not at all, even after the surgery and even after him now missing perhaps 25% of his left quad, AMAZINGLY, somehow his body has compensated and his left leg is 100% as strong as his right leg !! So even though his left leg, aesthetically, was damaged - functionally his left leg is 100% perfect. It is so weird man, he and I laugh about it. He has a really fucked up looking left leg, but a very very strong and powerful left leg. It's so weird !!

The human body is pretty amazing at how it can compensate when it is absolutely forced to compensate. I have always been amazed at the human body. Kind of like when a person loses his sight........his body compensates by having the sense of hearing become much more keen to compensate for that loss of sight !!

Anyways, my buddy's gear turned out to be dirty, as there were about 5 or 6 other members of outlawmuscle who ended up just like my friend - hospitalized with abscesses.

Symbiotic's attitude to being called out for selling dirty gear is just unbelievable. His attitude is so cavalier and callous - I would love to punch Symbiotic in the face as hard as I could. Hitting Symb in the face as hard as I could would make me feel better about what happened to my good friend.

Symb simply does not even give a shit that he is selling dirty gear. The guy just does not even care.

But oh well, Symb is a "devout Christian", so that justifies his terrible behavior, right ? As long as Symb is a "Christian", then everything is good, right? (Face Palm)
Thanks for the kind words. I’m sorry about what happened to your friend. Mine was about 8years ago.
It’s weird how often those that pronounce their Christian faith the loudest are usually the most vile and evil.
For someone who is supposedly so smart and who’s wife is supposedly a pharmacist he has no idea the possible repercussions of his careless actions. He’s either full of shit or no better than the rest of the greedy drug dealers.
Instead of facing the backlash like a man he threatens to run and hide. This is the type of person that rolls on people as soon as shit hits the fans. Everyone should really think about who they sent their info to and God help the idiots in business with him if shit goes south.
 
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